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Hand from Stars 100K- Good Squeeze spot or Spew? You decide

  • 26-05-2007 04:14AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭


    66 left. 60 paid. Average is about 16000.My image should be extremely rocky. Have not been involved much due to card deadness/no spots. The villain who minraises here has opened EVERY pot this orbit. Mostly taking them down uncontested , but also calling Pushes over him with Q10, 97 and hitting. The other 2 villains are decent but i feel would pump it with 10 10+ here. I am happy to be called by original raiser with KQ KJ or whatever rubbish he has and have a double up shot or take a race with either of the other 2.
    So does this move have any merit. What range would you assign me if you were UTG+1 or MP1. what is the minimum hand you would call with?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed)
    Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    MP1 (t13596)
    MP2 (t9980)
    Hero (t8692)
    Button (t2370)
    SB (t16254)
    BB (t15832)
    UTG (t45884)
    UTG+1 (t14418)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Adiamond.gif, 9spade.gif.
    UTG raises to t1600, UTG+1 calls t1600, MP1 calls t1600, 1 fold, Hero raises to t8652,
    [


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    58o wrote:
    but also calling Pushes over him with Q10, 97 and hitting.

    if this is true then surely its a push for value and not a squeeze?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    robinlacey wrote:
    if this is true then surely its a push for value and not a squeeze?
    Yes it would be sraight push for value if it was just me and the initial raiser. But i'd rather the other two would fold as stuff like suited A10 , AJ could be part of their range here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    well if he calls i'd imagine the other two will get out of the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    I'm not sure I like it given the action. It dos look like a squeeze play. I find when one player (like UTG) is playing abnormally, others start to react abnormally too, which makes it hard to assign a range.

    I'd much prefer if this all happened in late position. UTG+1 range is probably a bit wider than normal because of the maniac UTG, I would guess AT+, KQ, 88+. MP1 range is similar but you can remove a few obvious push hands like AK/QQ. UTG+1 will call with AQ/TT+ and MP1 (as he is last to act and there is a lot of dead money) might call with a slightly wider range.

    I think there is a good chance UTG will fold (with 2 others to act after him) and you will get looked up here by a hand that dominates yours.

    IMO you want to isolate UTG in a better position than this and try to get into a 60-40 for a double.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    I don't think UTG+1 & MP1 are calling off over 10% of their stack with nothing. If no one else calls I think atleast one of them are always calling and when they do its probably not going to be good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    Ok result time, o Callagh was probably closest.
    UTG instafolded, UTG+1 thought a bit then folded and MP1 dwelled for his whole timebank and made the call with 10 10. UTG+1 claimed to have folded the other 2 10's. What do you make of the 2 Middle players play in this hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    I still like the move regardless of results. I think they are unlikely to show up with AJ/AT here so you only really have to worry about AQ maybe and TT and 99.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    yeah I think this is a good spot to push, you are rarely crushed and often get to play a HU pot with good equity and some dead money. Or pick up 6k if you don't get called.


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