[May 26/27] NTSA 3P/Prone Competition

rrpc

From the NTSA website:

NTSA 50m 3P/Prone Competition

The NTSA are delighted to announce the holding of a 50m 3P/Prone Competition on the weekend of 26th/27th May 2007 at the Midlands National Shooting Centre of Ireland Ranges in Tullamore, Co. Offaly.

3P event – 40 shots each in the Prone, Standing and Kneeling positions
Prone event – 60 shots in the Prone position only.
Classified competition – 60 shots run concurrently with the Prone event.
Entry Fee: €15 for each event
Prizes for 1st to 3rd in Championship and 1st to 3rd in the classified competition.

Saturday 26th May – Check in no later than 11:30am
Detail A - 12:00: 45 minutes Prone, 75 minutes Standing and 60 minutes Kneeling. Changeover time of 5 minutes allowed.

There will be one detail only for this competition. No final will be held. Shooting on electronic targets by kind permission of Rathdrum Rifle and Pistol Club. Please book your firing point on the Rathdrum website at: www.rathdrumrpc.org.

Sunday 27th May – First detail at 10:00am
Detail B - 10:00 (75 minutes per detail)
Detail C - 11:30
Detail D - 13:00
Detail E - 14:30.
10 Shot Final for first eight qualifiers – 16:00

To book a detail, go to www.rathdrumrpc.org and choose 'Book Detail' from the menu on the left. Follow the steps to book date, firing point/detail. A confirmation email will be sent to you to confirm your booking. Only available firing points/details will be displayed.

The NTSA reserve the right to re-allocate firing points/details should numbers booked not require the running of four details. In that event, shooters will be notified of any changes by email. In the event that a fifth detail is required, the timings of details will be changed and such changes will be published on the NTSA website: www.targetshootingireland.com

Kealan Symes
Smallbore Rifle Coordinator

Right in the middle of College exams....

rrpc

Right in the middle of College exams

I was aware of that, but we needed to run a competition now for two reasons:

1. To test the feasibility of running the electronics away from home and
2. As a selection shoot for the European Championships in Granada.

Dates are really hard to come by, as are venues. This is the only one that could fulfil all criteria. It had to be in Tullamore because that's where the Nationals will be held.

I tried to get BRC, but their calendar wouldn't allow it.

I might be able to make it.. but will be wrecked from exams (will have done 4 out of five by then)

I'm not complaining! Just pointing out the fact!

Sparks

I'm not complaining!

Pffffffft! Noob.

Sparks

From the NTSA website:

NTSA 3P/Prone Event - Results
Written by SmallboreRifleCoordinator
Monday, 28 May 2007

Results now in for the NTSA 3P/Prone event held at the MNSCI shooting grounds in Tullamore. Logistics as expected proved difficult with the result that the 3P event was delayed two hours due to a combination of preparation taking a lot longer than anticipated, coupled with the desire to minimise disruption to MNSCI's other details being run on the day.

Sean Baldwin won the 3P event with a score of 1095, while Richard Stapleton Jr. won the Prone event on Sunday with a combined score of 681.8.


The full detail in the standing position.

Three Positions Club Tot

Sean Baldwin DFST 375 P
346 S
374 K 1095

Joe O'Donohoe DFST 382 P
350 S
351 K 1083

Daniel Fleming WTSC 371 P
312 S
287 K 970

Pat O'Brien DRC 362 P
309 S
DNS K 671




Conditions were relatively calm on Saturday, especially when it rained! The competition progressed smoothly after the delayed start. Sean Baldwin who was trailing by eleven points going into the kneeling position, secured the win with a storming 374 almost equalling his prone score!

NTSAI Prone 50 Metre ~ 26th May 2007
Competitor Club Cl. 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total Av O/A Class
Place Place
Richard Stapleton WTSC A 96 100 98 94 95 95 578 96.33 1 1 A
Joe O'Donohoe DFST A 96 93 97 96 97 95 574 95.67 2 2 A
Sean Baldwin DFST A 96 98 90 92 97 95 568 94.67 3 3 A
Brendan Byrne RRPC C 91 91 92 90 95 94 553 92.17 4 1 C
Conor McDermottroe DURC C 93 89 92 95 89 94 552 92.00 5 2 C
Kealan Symes RRPC B 90 88 91 95 94 92 550 91.67 6 1 B
Daniel Fleming WTSC A 94 94 88 86 90 94 546 91.00 7
Michael Madigan RRPC B 94 94 87 90 86 91 542 90.33 8 2 B
Joe Kinane RRPC D 84 84 86 90 93 92 529 88.17 9 1 D

Conditions on Sunday were extremely testing. The wind was very strong at times, and at one stage a mini-twister formed behind the 50m butts! Wind direction was changeable with it alternating between blowing directly at the shooters to blowing from left to right at varying strengths. We are still cleaning the sand out of the targets as I write this!



Final Qual 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Sub Total

Richard Stapleton WTSC 578 10.7 10.2 10.6 10.4 10.2 10.4 10.3 10.5 10.0 10.5 103.8 681.8
588.7 598.9 609.5 619.9 630.1 640.5 650.8 661.3 671.3 681.8
Joe O'Donohoe DFST 574 10.0 9.3 10.5 9.4 9.6 9.2 8.9 10.1 10.0 9.1 96.1 670.1
584.0 593.3 603.8 613.2 622.8 632.0 640.9 651.0 661.0 670.1
Sean Baldwin DFST 568 9.7 10.8 10.0 10.6 10.2 9.9 10.3 9.5 9.1 9.3 99.4 667.4
577.7 588.5 598.5 609.1 619.3 629.2 639.5 649.0 658.1 667.4
Brendan Byrne RRPC 553 10.0 10.2 10.3 10.2 9.1 9.2 10.0 10.0 10.7 9.6 99.3 652.3
563.0 573.2 583.5 593.7 602.8 612.0 622.0 632.0 642.7 652.3
Conor McDermottroe DURC 552 10.7 8.5 8.9 9.3 10.4 10.3 9.4 9.0 9.4 10.7 96.6 648.6
562.7 571.2 580.1 589.4 599.8 610.1 619.5 628.5 637.9 648.6
Kealan Symes RRPC 550 10.0 7.9 9.3 8.6 10.6 10.4 10.2 8.4 9.3 8.9 93.6 643.6
560.0 567.9 577.2 585.8 596.4 606.8 617.0 625.4 634.7 643.6
Daniel Fleming WTSC 546 10.1 10.5 9.6 9.3 9.6 9.6 9.3 9.3 9.9 8.6 95.8 641.8
556.1 566.6 576.2 585.5 595.1 604.7 614.0 623.3 633.2 641.8

Due to a problem with No. 8 target, the final was held for the first seven shooters. No positions changed hands, but Richard impressed everyone by shooting a perfect ton in the final!

The NTSA would like to thank all those at MNSCI for their unstinting help and assistance and without whom this event would never have taken place. We look forward to seeing you all again on the 23rd/24th June for the Nationals. We would also like to thank the members of the Defence Forces shooting team and the members of Rathdrum who helped with the clean up afterwards and with the loading up of the targets and equipment.



The kneeling position

bullets

Those dudes fireing on the Sunday disrupted everyone else at the
range!!!! as they had extra long cease fires and details.
I liked their tellys that they all had to register their hits.
They all had fancy targets with microphones and LCD screens.
Dunno why some of them wore the flat shoes as they were
lying prone so they would not have made a difference.

The Winds on the Sunday were unreal dunno how those boys
shot in that wind. At one stage there was a sand/peat storm
like a scene from the film the Mummy. The top layer of peat
and all the sand from the backstops was hurled across the
sky and got everyplace.

I was fireing at the 50m range as the winds were a bit too strong for
100m. The shooting team that was fireing got the royal treatment
but I was forced into a corner and they started sticking boards of wood
to build a box around me so the sound from my 17 would not disturb
the boys fireing prone.

~B

rrpc

bullets wrote:

Those dudes fireing on the Sunday disrupted everyone else at the
range!!!! as they had extra long cease fires and details.

Sorry about that bullets, we did point it out to MNSCI beforehand, and we really did our best to try and minimise disruption. A lot of our details didn't start on time, so that we wouldn't affect the other details too much.

bullets wrote:

I liked their tellys that they all had to register their hits.
They all had fancy targets with microphones and LCD screens.

That's why the details were so long. No need to change targets . Midlands are thinking strongly of getting some of those for themselves.

bullets wrote:

Dunno why some of them wore the flat shoes as they were
lying prone so they would not have made a difference.

The toes are flat as well, so it keeps your foot straight the whole time when lying prone.

bullets wrote:

The Winds on the Sunday were unreal dunno how those boys shot in that wind. At one stage there was a sand/peat storm
like a scene from the film the Mummy. The top layer of peat
and all the sand from the backstops was hurled across the
sky and got everyplace.

That was officially a four inch wind! I shot last night at 25 yards indoors without changing my sights from Sunday, and the first shot was 2" left which translates to over 4" at 50m!

bullets wrote:

I was fireing at the 50m range as the winds were a bit too strong for 100m. The shooting team that was fireing got the royal treatment but I was forced into a corner and they started sticking boards of wood to build a box around me so the sound from my 17 would not disturb the boys fireing prone.

Noisy little fecker . So that was you behind the partition. I though you looked real cosy there

We're going to be there again on the 23rd and 24th June, so it will be the same story then, probably worse as there should be more of us.

bullets

rrpc wrote:

Noisy little fecker . So that was you behind the partition. I though you looked real cosy there

We're going to be there again on the 23rd and 24th June, so it will be the same story then, probably worse as there should be more of us.

The 24th June they have the F-Class Open day where
people can try out the big guns for a modest price so everone might
disrupt each other! Pretty cool to have such a wide variety of
fireams that day.

When I could not fire due to the detail going on I headed to
the shotgun area and fired at some clays while I waited so
it was not too bad for me!
Time is usually precious when we travel to Midlands as we get
there around 13:30-14:00 and leave around 16:30-17:00
So usually only get a few hours once or twice a month.

The Equipment was cool. The Black target was fairly big so was
not sure how ye managed to determine the centre of it with open sights.
If Midlands bought some I dunno if they would let me use the .17
as I already am not allowed shoot at the silhouette with it as it damages them.

Hopefully weather will be better and I will have a moderator by then.
Cant reach my FO so wrote to him instead about a mod.

I was feeling Guilty making all that Noise and I was guessing the
the people fireing would be needing all the concentration that they could.
My rifle does not have Iron sights but I would like to try open sights again
as I did enjoy them with the stuff I fired when I was a teenager.

~B

Sparks

bullets wrote:

The 24th June they have the F-Class Open day where
people can try out the big guns for a modest price so everone might
disrupt each other! Pretty cool to have such a wide variety of
fireams that day.

Not to mention that we'll have the TV cameras out that day as well

The Equipment was cool. The Black target was fairly big so was
not sure how ye managed to determine the centre of it with open sights.

Well, they're not actually open sights, they're aperture sights, so you get a sight picture that looks something like this (for air rifle):


It looks similar for 50m outdoors, but you have to take more account of the environment to shoot in wind and changing light. Some companies are now making rearsights to let you do that, so you get views like this one:

rrpc

bullets wrote:

The 24th June they have the F-Class Open day where
people can try out the big guns for a modest price so everone might
disrupt each other! Pretty cool to have such a wide variety of
fireams that day.

RTE OB Sports will be there as well to film us, so there should be plenty for them to cover!

bullets wrote:

The Equipment was cool. The Black target was fairly big so was not sure how ye managed to determine the centre of it with open sights. If Midlands bought some I dunno if they would let me use the .17
as I already am not allowed shoot at the silhouette with it as it damages them.

The open sights are apertures, so you aim the bull at the sights rather than the other way around. The black aiming mark fits inside your foresight, and they fit inside your backsight, so when they are all lined up you get a 10 (In theory ) . There's nothing to hit, the bullet goes straight through the target, the black is actually a rubber strip on a roll that advances with every five shots, so that a hole doesn't get blown in it. Your .177 would hardly leave a mark!

bullets wrote:

I was feeling Guilty making all that Noise and I was guessing the people fireing would be needing all the concentration that they could. My rifle does not have Iron sights but I would like to try open sights again as I did enjoy them with the stuff I fired when I was a teenager. ~B

I don't think it was a problem, the guy that won it had 22 10's in a row and half of them were inner tens (5mm ring). He had ten tens in the final and seven of them were inners as well. Not bad in a 4" wind :cool:

Sparks

Your .177 would hardly leave a mark!

.17HMR, not .177
It'd still work, though you'd have to tell the software it wasn't a .22 size round or it wouldn't score it right, but the problem would be if bullets hit the frame - a .17HMR would do a fair bit of damage to the megalink targets...

rrpc

Sparks wrote:

.17HMR, not .177
It'd still work, though you'd have to tell the software it wasn't a .22 size round or it wouldn't score it right, but the problem would be if bullets hit the frame - a .17HMR would do a fair bit of damage to the megalink targets...

Sorry can't help typing that extra seven, old habits

The frames can withstand a jacketed 9mm, so the .17HMR might leave a mark alright.

And here's Richy's target from the final



The outer ring in the picture is the nine ring! MPI is almost dead centre of the inner ten.

Sparks

Sweet. Roll on the AGM, I'm starting to itch to get back to the range now