Bean-to-cup machines

zuutroy

Anyone else got one. I bought a Saeco Vienna a few years ago and never looked back...no more pre-ground for me!...press a button and it grinds and dispenses a damn fine cup in a few seconds....
That died on me and nearly electric shocked me to death when I tried to fix it, so I went with an Ariete Supreme to replace is as I wasn't loaded at the time. Only 200euro and almost every bit as good.
Some day the Saeco Incanto will be mine....think that one is around 1000 euro :eek:

Gran Hermano

I use a Jura Impressa X7 when in the office.
Espresso is pretty good from it but I've noticed
the auto-cappuccinatore tends to act up and clog
(even with very regular cleaning).

Whilst it's good it'd be overkill for the home user as it retails
at around €4.5k and it requires a diligent maintenance routine.
The results from my Gaggia and MC2 are better

mcaul

Bodum have a great machine out. The Granos.
It has 19 bar pressure. - Higest pressure for a home machine!

I use the lavazza Pods in it for a great cup of coffee.

Kitchen Dresser retails it at €299 - which is an excellent price - as they used to retail at €699 in Brown Thomas & I sold them in Liffey Valley (Special Days) at €599.

http://www.kitchendresser.net/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=419

Gran Hermano

re: the Bodum, looks nice, but more 'pod to cup' than 'bean to cup'
I'd have thought. What's it like without the pods?

rockbeer

mcaul wrote:

Bodum have a great machine out. The Granos.
It has 19 bar pressure. - Higest pressure for a home machine!

Higher pressure doesn't necessarily mean better. Espresso must be brewed at 9 to 10 bars, so a 19 bar pump is only a good thing in combination with a good pressure regulator.

I don't know whether the Bodum has this or not - I've never used the machine so I can't comment. Just wouldn't want people thinking that more pressure is always better.

zuutroy

rockbeer wrote:

Higher pressure doesn't necessarily mean better. Espresso must be brewed at 9 to 10 bars, so a 19 bar pump is only a good thing in combination with a good pressure regulator.

I don't know whether the Bodum has this or not - I've never used the machine so I can't comment. Just wouldn't want people thinking that more pressure is always better.

Yeah, I heard before that 15 is the max that's needed

mcaul

Gran Hermano wrote:

re: the Bodum, looks nice, but more 'pod to cup' than 'bean to cup'
I'd have thought. What's it like without the pods?

It has 3 attachments for the "arm". One for pods, one for single espresso / reg coffee and one for double espresso.

Machine has set programmes for single / double espresso & allows you programme the amount for an americano. Also has hot water feature (for tea or such) and steam.

I use pods cos they are just so easy especially in the office.

Gran Hermano

"Bean to cup", in my understanding of the term, usually refers to a machine
which grinds the beans as well.

RE*AC*TOR

Gran Hermano wrote:

"Bean to cup", in my understanding of the term, usually refers to a machine
which grinds the beans as well.

Correct.