New WSOP Structure Deepstack Game- Every Sunday The Red Cow Hotel Starting 3rd June

JP Poker

Starting June 3rd, every Sunday in the Red Cow hotel we will have a our €150 deepstack game. The last Sunday of each month will be a €250 game with extended blinds to 40 mins.

During the month of June we have decided to use the same blind structure as the WSOP ME with a 20000 starting stack.

1. Who is running this tournament, JP Poker
2. The purpose of the event, Commericial
3. Every Sunday from 3rd June, The Red Cow Hotel
4. Reg 1pm, Game 2pm
5. Any prerequisites, none.
6. Tickets can be bought on the day, no maximum number of players
7. NL Hold’em
8. Buy In €150 (€125 Prize pool, €25 Reg fee )
9. Starting chips 20000
10. 40 Min Blinds

50-100
100-200
200-400
200-400 (50 Ante)
300-600 (75 Ante)

Break 10 Min’s, Chip Race 25’s

400-800 (100 Ante)
500-1000 (100 Ante)
600-1200 (100 Ante)
800-1600 (200 Ante)

Break 30 Min’s, Finger Food

1000-2000 (300 Ante)
1200-2400 (300 Ante)
1500-3000 (400 Ante)
2000-4000 (500 Ante)

Break 10 Min’s, Chip Race 100’s

2500-5000 (500 Ante)
3000-6000 (1000 Ante)
4000-8000 (1000 Ante)
5000-10000 (1000 Ante)

Break 10 Min’s, Chip Race 500’5

6000-12000 (2000 Ante)
8000-16000 (2000 Ante)
10000-20000 (3000 Ante)
12000-24000 (3000 Ante)

Break 10 Min’s

15000-30000 (4000 Ante)
20000-40000 (5000 Ante)
25000-50000 (5000 Ante)
30000-60000 (10000 Ante)

Break 10 Min’s, Chip Race 1000’s

40000-80000 (10000 Ante)
60000-120000 (15000 Ante)
80000-160000 (20000 Ante)
100000-200000 (30000 Ante)Frozen Until Finished

Depending on total chip count, players left and average chip stack to blinds and antes the clock may be frozen a lot earlier, we will also repeat levels if the game is going fast.

11. Professional Dealers on all Tables
12. JP Mc Cann is TD
13. TD has last say
14. A set of rules will be on display

Ollieboy

have to say I hate this structure JP, I've not work it out, but from what I can see after 5 levels your blind stack ratio is bigger than in the normal structure game, which give less value, but its still great value for 150.

ditpoker

my head hurts... isnt having 20k stack starting at 50-100 the same as a 10k stack with 25-50!?? why change the structure jp? i liked the ante's not coming in until level 8+ , maybe i'm wrong as i havent seen this structure in operation.

i'll probably still play though!

JP Poker

Hi Jeff & Ollie,

I agree this is a more aggressive blind structure than my normal structure. I will extend the blind levels to 40 mins.

I have decided to use this blind structure only for the month of June to give anyone who is playing the WSOP ME a trial run.

LuckyLloyd

ditpoker wrote:

my head hurts... isnt having 20k stack starting at 50-100 the same as a 10k stack with 25-50!??

It is the exact same except there is no 150 - 300 (i.e. 75 / 150 in a standard structure) level.

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote:

It is the exact same except there is no 150 - 300 (i.e. 75 / 150 in a standard structure) level.

i dont think that is quite right, i remember working it out when i read the new WSOP structure, you basically loses 3 levels AFAIR by the 10th level.

5starpool

Ah ya, but by the business end you will have people making bets of millions and that what really counts. Who needs sensible poker when you can get 8 gazillion chips in play?

LuckyLloyd

goodluck2me wrote:

i dont think that is quite right, i remember working it out when i read the new WSOP structure, you basically loses 3 levels AFAIR by the 10th level.

Show me how.

Frinky

This does seem a bit silly. Why not start on 25-50 and have blind level 30mins?

I have ran tournaments and played in tournament were the blinds started at 50-100, for reason people start in the wrong frame of mind. For you JP the game is going to go quicker with more chips and the blinds starting higher than normal people generally play looser, not realising how much chips they actually have in comparison to the blinds. People think "ah sure I have 20000 I'll call", and before they know it they have no chips!

I think starting at 50 - 100 is not a good idea, when I first read the post I was looking forward to it but didnt notice the blinds starting at 50 - 100. I will probably still play and watch people lose their chips like I just said

You obviously want to hold onto the 20000 starting stack, but maybe look at restructuring?

Mr.Plough

Frinky wrote:

This does seem a bit silly. Why not start on 25-50 and have blind level 30mins?

I have ran tournaments and played in tournament were the blinds started at 50-100, for reason people start in the wrong frame of mind. For you JP the game is going to go quicker with more chips and the blinds starting higher than normal people generally play looser, not realising how much chips they actually have in comparison to the blinds. People think "ah sure I have 20000 I'll call", and before they know it they have no chips!

I think starting at 50 - 100 is not a good idea, when I first read the post I was looking forward to it but didnt notice the blinds starting at 50 - 100. I will probably still play and watch people lose their chips like I just said

You obviously want to hold onto the 20000 starting stack, but maybe look at restructuring?

Oh so you do play poker? I thought you just organised events.:rolleyes:

menoscemo

goodluck2me wrote:

i dont think that is quite right, i remember working it out when i read the new WSOP structure, you basically loses 3 levels AFAIR by the 10th level.

Jp's structure is exactly the same as this years main event (except that levels there are 120 minutes). If you don't believe that, check this this out:

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/structsheet.asp?tourneyid=3482&groupid=309
I think it is a good Idea for many to try the structure out on sunday.

Ollieboy

menoscemo wrote:

Jp's structure is exactly the same as this years main event (except that levels there are 120 minutes). If you don't believe that, check this this out:

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/structsheet.asp?tourneyid=3482&groupid=309
I think it is a good Idea for many to try the structure out on sunday.

he never said it wasn't the structure, he said and agreed with me that there's less value in this structure, someone with time on there hands can work it out, but if you take level 6 and compare the bb to the starting stack for both structures, what percentage of your stack is it. I'm guessing a lot less under the new structure, hence less play, even do you have double the chips, blinds start and increase in bigger percentages.

JP Poker

Hey Guys,

I just have been informed that the Red Cow has been double booked and so i've had to move this game to a different venue.

This game will now be played in the Spawell, Templeogue.

There will be a full dinner at the main break.

Due to the constraints of normal bar closing times this game may continue on Monday afternoon.

JP Poker

I can see the blind structure is causing some problems.

As mentioned above i am aware that it is a more aggressive structure to my normal game, which is why i have increase the blinds from 30 mins to 40 mins.

The reason i decided to change the structure for this month was at some players request (who will be traveling to the WSOP). It after the first two games people really dislike the structure i will change it back to the normal game.

Hope to see you on Sunday.

Valhalla

Sounds good to me! have you any games in Shankill/Sallynoggin area?

The Clamper

how many players do u expect,

whats the payout structure

is there dealers

JP Poker

The Clamper wrote:

how many players do u expect,

whats the payout structure

is there dealers

Hi Derek,

To be honest i'm not expecting more than 50-60 players due to all the festivals that have been on in the last few weeks.

Also the Dublin v Meath game may effect the numbers aswell.

A max of 15% will be held back.
€100 for the league (which game is now part of, details in the sticky)
Up to top 3 places getting a €250 ticket for the 24th June (can be used any last Sunday of the month).

Lazare

What beautiful weather for poker.

I'm gonna donate, who else is goin to this?

Dukebox

anyone play this today??

what did you think of the structure

think it would suit my type of play


how many numbers???

if anyone could give some feedback would be appriciated

duke

rag2gar

61 runners (id imagine it will get more with so many tourneys on this weekend around the country)

lots of play still left with 8 hours gone.

I liked it, it reminds me of the boards monthly which is also a great game imho.

I dont know what your style of play is so cant answer that one

JP Poker

Just back from this now.

Down to the last 7 players.

Albert Kenny 233k
Philip Baker 153k
Mark Holland 148k
Leon Boylan 186.5k
Gary Clarke 138k
Neil Bergin 289.5k
Richard Owens 61.5k

We will be starting back tomorrow at 3pm. Blinds at 2500-5000 (500 Ante)

Will do a full report in the morning.

ditpoker

go on gary clarke!! ya legend..

good to see albert there again

LuckyLloyd

JP Poker wrote:

Just back from this now.

Down to the last 7 players.

Albert Kenny 233k
Philip Baker 153k
Mark Holland 148k
Leon Boylan 186.5k
Gary Clarke 138k
Neil Bergin 289.5k
Richard Owens 61.5k

We will be starting back tomorrow at 3pm. Blinds at 2500-5000 (500 Ante)

Will do a full report in the morning.

Structure was obv a success. Seems pretty deep.

ditpoker

go to sleep lloyd!!

rag2gar

ditpoker wrote:

go on gary clarke!! ya legend..

good to see albert there again

A legend? Wow best compliment I ever got!

Thanks Jeff!

Macspower

take it down gar!!!!

AKQJ10

albert is a consistant freak

Lazare

This was an excellent tourney, with so much play.
I exited in about 15th when a 6d8d button squeez went Pete Tong.

Gl to Albert, Gar and Neil

Lazare

AKQJ10 wrote:

albert is a consistant freak

Card rack.

Hand 1: Albert has AA, Laurent from SE pushes a 70BB tank into him with QQ
Hand 2: Albert raises KQ, gets a call from QJ, flop is QQK
Hand 3: Albert has AA, guy pushes 40BB tank into him with AQ

cooker3

Lazare wrote:

Card rack.

Hand 1: Albert has AA, Laurent from SE pushes a 70BB tank into him with QQ
Hand 2: Albert raises KQ, gets a call from QJ, flop is QQK
Hand 3: Albert has AA, guy pushes 40BB tank into him with AQ

Yeah but he didn't get a bad beat on any of them proving his class!

ditpoker

Lazare wrote:

Card rack.

Hand 1: Albert has AA, Laurent from SE pushes a 70BB tank into him with QQ
Hand 2: Albert raises KQ, gets a call from QJ, flop is QQK
Hand 3: Albert has AA, guy pushes 40BB tank into him with AQ

easy when u know how!

rag2gar

Lazare wrote:

This was an excellent tourney, with so much play.
I exited in about 15th when a 6d8d button squeez went Pete Tong.

It very nearly worked tho, unlucky, nice to see people playing creatively.

For what its worth I tought Albert played v well

Lazare

rag2gar wrote:

It very nearly worked tho, unlucky, nice to see people playing creatively.

For what its worth I tought Albert played v well

Cheers Gar, how did you get on? I only copped who you were today.

Oh, and I thought Albert played some great poker too, I was ribbin a bit upthread. I've always been impressed by his play.

rag2gar

Likewise I only copped who you were when u explained your exit hand too!

I came 5th. With all this talk about Albert he surely won it?

westlife

Hi JP, first time I played your Sunday tourney. Great game (despite the 'concerns' over the structure). Its good to see a tourney director stay so involved,and enthusiastic, in the 'full' running of the game. Hope you liked your dinner I got you on Monday! Congrats to Mark.....

rag2gar

Westlife are you philip or the chef?

westlife

lol, the chef would be a better player!

rag2gar

Philip?

westlife

Yip. First time on boards.

rag2gar

Welcome. Played well my friend. Mise agus tusa etc

westlife

aaahhhhhhhhh, know you now. Played well yourself. Went back for the Monday night game. Standard highly questionable. Chips left 4,300, blinds 50 - 100. limp utg with KK. 3 calls and big blind raises to 500. I reraise to 1400 and BB calls. Flop J43. BB checks and I go all in with 2,900. BB calls with pocket 6s (the hand I got knock out with today). On turning over the cards the BB say's " I put you on AQ". Turn 9, River.... you guessed it..6. Don't mind getting dogged but to say to me that I would flat call and then reraise with AQ... that hurt. And this is one of the more recognised players at the game (no names, that would not be nice).

Goodluck2me

Lazare wrote:

Card rack.

Hand 1: Albert has AA, Laurent from SE pushes a 70BB tank into him with QQ
Hand 2: Albert raises KQ, gets a call from QJ, flop is QQK
Hand 3: Albert has AA, guy pushes 40BB tank into him with AQ

Albert raises to 12K with AA blinds 1500-3000, Button SB and BB (Neill Calls), flop is KQT, Bet of 30K Neill ships for 95 albert folds and Teh bettor calls with KJ, Neill had J9 for flopped straight and chip lead.

I think you forgot another hand Lazare or you didnt see it. Albert was playing 240K, UTG calls, SB min raises to 4K, Albert calls with Kc6c UTG calls. Flop is 4c9cKh, SB bets all in 30K, Albert calls UTG pushes for 70K Al calls the extra 40K, UTG has KQ and SB has AA, the Ac come on the river to put give him 1/3 of chips in play with 11 left...:eek:



Also.... The chips are Amazzzzzing!

rag2gar

Not to worry, id imagine its an entirely different kettle of fish on a monday than sunday

Lazare

Phillip, are you the guy that was sitting to my left at the start? Albert was to my right.

Lazare

goodluck2me wrote:

I think you forgot another hand Lazare or you didnt see it. Albert was playing 240K, UTG calls, SB min raises to 4K, Albert calls with Kc6c UTG calls. Flop is 4c9cKh, SB bets all in 30K, Albert calls UTG pushes for 70K Al calls the extra 40K, UTG has KQ and SB has AA, the Ac come on the river to put give him 1/3 of chips in play with 11 left...:eek:

LOL, ye gotta punish those min-raises.

westlife

think so Laz... I'm old now and my mem is not what it used to be.. lol

Lazare

westlife wrote:

think so Laz... I'm old now and my mem is not what it used to be.. lol

farenheit deodorant ring any bells?

westlife

Jasus, don't tell them all our secrets....it was better than that 'sure for women' your were looking for!

Lazare

westlife wrote:

Jasus, don't tell them all our secrets....it was better than that 'sure for women' your were looking for!

LOL, it won't let you down

Goodluck2me

who won?

The Scrapper

westlife wrote:

aaahhhhhhhhh, know you now. Played well yourself. Went back for the Monday night game. Standard highly questionable. Chips left 4,300, blinds 50 - 100. limp utg with KK. 3 calls and big blind raises to 500. I reraise to 1400 and BB calls. Flop J43. BB checks and I go all in with 2,900. BB calls with pocket 6s (the hand I got knock out with today). On turning over the cards the BB say's " I put you on AQ". Turn 9, River.... you guessed it..6. Don't mind getting dogged but to say to me that I would flat call and then reraise with AQ... that hurt. And this is one of the more recognised players at the game (no names, that would not be nice).

"recognised players " .... lol recognised as what a FISH ???

I was at the table for this hand and have played with that guy a few times, he is RUBBISH, he calls with ATC and always seems to hit, last week he called an all in preflop of 18 k with the blnids at 1-2k with 10 6 sooooted, he was on the SB and had 17k more to call, he was up against 10 10 and was dominated, but sure as always he made his flush to knock the other guy out on the bubble.......sicko

ps i'm sorry for calling the 6 on the river but as soon as u said u had been knocked out on them earlier it was only a formality it was coming....:)