Jakkass - Free International Texts!

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timmins, I was only thinking about this today. It would be a shame if they reduce the number of webtexts per month or worse, got rid of them completely.

Until then...keep up the good work

Timmins

Well after about 3 days of activity theres been almost 3000 views on the page, a figure i'm fairly happy with. The details page you see after you send a message also tells me that 634 messages have been sent to date, with over 200 being sent in the last 24 hours!

Does anyone have any suggestions as to getting the site moving along a bit more, and gaining more traffic and exposure?

Thanks for your support,

t1mm

donutface

at that rate your going to need about 20 webtext accounts, and thats not even factoring any growth. I hope you have some way of getting simcards cheaply/free!

Timmins

Your predictions were right, both the o2 accounts from which international messages are sent were renewed with 250 texts (500 in total) on the 1st, and now (on the 3rd) theres barely 100 left. I can use my own account if needs be, and i'll be getting another o2 account tonight to add to the list. Donut was correct again - its appealing to international customers more so than irish ones!

Random

I would suggest not using your own account.

donutface

the irish people have their own 300 webtexts either, plus theres 4 million people living in Ireland vs how many people outisde of Irelad that have motive to send text messages

andy0

I think that's right; after all when sat at a computer, any Irish O2 subscriber could just as well log in to their own account. And other Irish network subscribers can use their own account for Ireland and just use this for international, where they couldn't use AFT either. And with some users from abroad as well, you're bound to see almost all international destinations.

As for getting more traffic and exposure, I wonder if it's a bit early if you're at capacity this quickly and need more SIMs already. This could get quite big, especially with a wap version and if it becomes known internationally.

Random

I agree with the point about traffic ... you can't handle it as it is, so maybe relax a bit.

Also, maybe get some of the free Meteor SIMs and use them for SMS to Irish numbers - no cost to you!

Timmins

I discovered earlier on that Meteor SIMs are no longer free - you have to buy at least 10euro meteor credit to obtain one, and going to the bother of selling the credit to someone to make it free isn't worth the hassle.

The point was brought up at the MSN table today that outsourcing of sms email gateways could be used to send messages to numbers on particular networks to their respective company's gateway service instead of through our webtexts. Volounteers from around the world will be neccesary though.

Thats where IRC will come into the equation.

philologos

Sounds an awful lot like spamming to me. But good luck with the site anyway.

Timmins

What sounds like spamming?

philologos

Posting a thread to promote your own website, sounds like spamming to me.

flodis79

@Timmins: Do you have an automatic routine that sends all the irish texts thru voda or meteor accounts so that the o2 texts are not wasted on irish texts?

Timmins

Jakkass - if this is "spamming", then you might say the same about AFT and Dorsh. The word you're looking for is "plugging".

Floodis, yeah only international webtexts are sent through the o2 accounts.

philologos

regardless theres a section on adverts.ie for services offered.

donutface

the difference is that this is completely on topic, and timmins isnt selling a service (the profit he makes from advertising is dismal)

Its spamming if its off topic, if he goes and advertises his Lego related blog or some bull**** like that, I fully agree, however what he posted can benefit anyone on the forum, which is the same with AFT.

With your logic we might aswell not even have a forum, because that new nokia phone or that new service that came out by meteor, yup its advertising/spamming. What difference is it if you talk about your own service, or if you talk about others?


Plus have a read on the service charter on adverts.ie

3, Ads containing links to websites pertaining to your services are deemed commercial and will be removed.

So posting it there isnt an option, theres nothing like that here afaik

philologos

If he isn't selling a service, it won't be deemed commercial surely.

Charter wrote:

No blatant advertising/soliciting (unless you pay Boards Ltd. for it).

Pythia

I don't think there's any spamming going on, maybe promotion. But since it's a free service, it can only be good imo.

Random

Pythia wrote:

I don't think there's any spamming going on, maybe promotion. But since it's a free service, it can only be good imo.

here here!

andy0

I get told that the message has been sent; but it doesn't arrive

Have all the available messages been used up for now?

Timmins

Well the international texts stopped there a couple of days ago, 8 simcards worth of messages (2000) were used in the first third of the month. Theres still plenty of irish messages available, and the international service will be restored at the start of July

Enjoy!

micks

dal wrote:

You might be interested in smsdiscount. I use it myself. Its 1c per message to most popular destinations (uk and ireland included) and the message actually appears to the recipient as if it has come from your number. There is a desktop application for it and a web interface. AFT (the java app for your phone) supports smsdiscount (not yet the "from number" part, but should be ready soon).

Btw, brilliant work Timmins. Always great to see someone spreading the free love

Dal - smsdiscount sounds like it could solve a problem for me with club members but just a question is it safe/trustworthy regarding security ? ie are the numbers i send texts to likely to be sent spam texts?

cheers

dal

micks wrote:

Dal - smsdiscount sounds like it could solve a problem for me with club members but just a question is it safe/trustworthy regarding security ? ie are the numbers i send texts to likely to be sent spam texts?

cheers

All I can say is that I have been using it for a while without any problems. I don't believe that they will send spam, but check out the terms and conditions just in case.

donutface

wait so SMSdiscount aswell as VoipBuster doesnt support the from field?

I was under the impression that SMSdiscount worked (sorry for thread hijacking)

dal

donutface wrote:

wait so SMSdiscount aswell as VoipBuster doesnt support the from field?

I was under the impression that SMSdiscount worked (sorry for thread hijacking)

SMSDiscount does support the from number field and it does work through AFT.

cooperguy

I know this is a bit further on down the line but you do know that after a year if no credit has been bought for the sim cards the accounts will be cancelled?

Random

All he has to do is connect to GPRS on each SIM every 6 months to keep them active. Once it brings his credit down by even one cent. This means that his 22 Euro free credit will last a long time.

Timmins

Since its a new month, international texts are now restored! Tell your friends!

Sweet, cheers. I noticed it was down earlier last month for a bit.

/edit: Actually, I just tried sending one there, and it still mentions how it's down but will be back up on the 1st of July!

/edit2: Now getting this error:

Server timed out.PHP Warning: file_get_contents(http://computer.donutsoft.net/sendsms.aspx?s=o&u=<number>&p=<PW>&m=<message>%20-%20www.jakkass.com&d=<number>>) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error in C:\Web\Main\htdocs\send.php on line 100

Edited accordingly

donutface

alls fixed and up and running - enjoy