Liverpool Signings and General Rumours Thread

Chardee MacDennis

Arsenal want Eto'o plus 25m for Henry, this could mess us up?

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?HLID=469273&CPID=8&title=Gunners+'offered'+Eto'o+bait&lid=&channel=Football_Home&f=rss&clid=3

Barcelona have offered Samuel Eto'o to Arsenal as a makeweight for Thierry Henry, according to reports in Spain.

Spanish daily Marca claims Barca are ready to part with the Cameroonian striker plus €25million (£17million) in order to bring Henry to Camp Nou.

The report says negotiations between Barca sport director Txiki Beguiristain and his Arsenal counterparts are already well advanced.

It also says the deal has met with approval from Arsene Wenger and the two players.

Eto'o's future has been the subject of speculation for some time and he has expressed a liking for the English game.

Henry has continued to be linked with Barca following Arsenal's disappointing season, even though he signed a long-term deal with The Gunners last summer.

Wenger guaranteed that his talismanic captain would not be sold earlier this month, while Henry has assured fans previously that his future remains in London.

Barcelona have yet to confirm whether there is any substance in the report, while Eto'o is currently away on international duty with Cameroon and has not commented.

PHB

Tevez will be 30 million, as you'll be competing with other teams. Also, the second people realise that you have money, the prices go up at least 5 million.

Personally, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest the Americans are really gona back him to the hilt, so I think we could see the following deals done.

Cisse sold for 3 million and Gonzalez sold for 5
Malouda bought for around 10

Bellamy for about 6-7 million and Kewell for about 4 million, gets Simao for about 12

Then say a 20 million war chest to buy whatever striker that Benetiz wants and can get. I personally can't see Eto/Tevez/Villa going to Liverpool. I think they would if they had no other choice, but I can't see how the other top teams wouldn't be in for all of them. Furthermore, Villa, they are apparently holding out for CRAZY money.

Raskolnikov

I doubt Crouch is going anywhere guys, Benitez feels that he's the right player to have for certain situations.

Chardee MacDennis

Raskolnikov wrote:

I doubt Crouch is going anywhere guys, Benitez feels that he's the right player to have for certain situations.

Besides Cara and Reina, i would say there is no one in the squad who wouldnt be sold if the right offer came along.

Vokes

I think the pre-agreed fee with Marseille for Cisse was £7mil.

Whether they're still willing to take him for keeps is another matter...

Maybe a swap + cash for Ribery ?

Raskolnikov

Call_me_al wrote:

Besides Cara and Reina, i would say there is no one in the squad who wouldnt be sold if the right offer came along.

Fair enough but it's not like Benitez is going to replace the entire squad! Anyway, there isn't a club that will pay £7 million+ for Crouch to make it worthwhile for 'Pool to sell him.

The way I look at it is, Kuyt is the grafter up front, Crouch is there for the aerial presence and ability to take the ball down, Bellamy is the pacy striker and now Voronin will be back up.

The only problem upfront is that Bellamy just hasn't been good enough. So I imagine he'll be the only one sold.

raven136

2 wingers and one striker,i think rafa just wants to be able to buy the best thats available this time.
Malouda and Simao are both very good but its the striker of eto or villa's quality he seesm to be pining for.Both would join if the money was right and the spanish factor cannot be ruled out,manager,staff and players speak it and so the culture factor might not be such a problem

Mr Alan

Yea i personally think that Bellamy will be the only striker leaving as well (unless there is some sort of deal involving Crouch and Owen or we get a bid for around 15 million for him).

Think there will be a couple of wingers coming in, players who could play on both sides would be ideal so we could switch it up if it wasn't working, think Pennant has played his way into Rafas plans for next year and personally think that if Kewell could stay injury free next year he might be the premierships suprise package! (actually maybe combined bet of Liverpool to win the league and Kewell to get PFA player of the year might be worth a punt!:))

PHB: you mind if i ask why you think Eto'o, Tevez or Villa wouldn't go to Liverpool?
Not getting into silly arguement, just curious???:)

Zapp Brannigan

Mancini would be a great signing. I'd much prefer Mancini + Malouda than Alves + Simao.

raven136

can anyone tell me more about mancini and his position.Is he any use?

zing

Rafa said he wanted to move quickly with players and here's another in the bag.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=469338&CPID=8&clid=14&lid=&title=Reds+recruit+teen+midfielder

Unfortunately it's yet another hopeful for tomorrow - not someone for today

zing

Slurms wrote:

Mancini would be a great signing. I'd much prefer Mancini + Malouda than Alves + Simao.

I'm not overly fussy - I'll take either combination over what we've got atm

PHB

PHB: you mind if i ask why you think Eto'o, Tevez or Villa wouldn't go to Liverpool?
Not getting into silly arguement, just curious???

It's not that they wouldn't go to Liverpool, it's that they'd go to other clubs before them.
All of these players have been courted by other major clubs

Eto'o - Chelsea, Milan, Arsenal, United
Tevez - Real Madrid
Villa - Chelsea

There have been strong links for all those players to those teams. I'm not saying that they won't go to Liverpool, I'm saying that they are more likely to go to the other bigger clubs. Tevez is the key example. Liverpool might want to buy him, but if Real Madrid match Liverpool's offer, I just can't see Tevez not going to Real Madrid.

HashSlinging

I think crouch has said he's staying, if he is going I think he should be worth at least 14mil, he's England’s number 1 striker and Liverpool’s top goal scorer. why would a champions league final player go for 10 mill. He's got a great CV now.

EDIT* Also im really p*ssed off at the thoughts of no irish players at liverpool in the future, is there no interest in signing any of our up and coming youth players.

Chardee MacDennis

i disagree PHB, great players like Henry and Eto'o have said they would love to play for Liverpool. There is not many times you hear that about most other clubs.

Also personally I dont think it is in a players best interest to sign for Chelsea or Real Madrid.

woodyg

Torres doesn't help his chances
http://breakingnews.ie/sport/?jp=MHKFCWSNIDAU

not sure if he's worth it any way when fit. He did score only 12 goals in la liga but Atletico only play with 1 up front and also are not the most creative team so not sure what way to read the low return. He does have some fine quality though good in the air, quick strong and also can finish with both feet. He looked a real player in the world cup last year so will see.

eirebhoy

raven136 wrote:

can anyone tell me more about mancini and his position.Is he any use?

Left wing, right wing or behind the strikers. Him and Totti don't like each other so he'll probably be happy to leave. He'd cost £10-15m though.

Mr Alan

have to say PHB that i'd disagree with that too. Think of all the clubs you mentioned only Real Madrid might be able to entice those players to them ahead of Liverpool.

Liverpool have as good a chance if not better than the other clubs you mentioned.

el rabitos

the only attactive feature of madrid i can see is the weather

RE*AC*TOR

el rabitos wrote:

the only attactive feature of madrid i can see is the weather

its the capital of spain, its a beautiful city, Real are potential champions, they have a lot of quality in their team, they have a proven manager.

Don't be daft.

Dont be at yourself

The Sun (*spit*) links us with a £12 million move for Valencia's Silva. He is absolute quality, and I'd love to see him in a Liverpool shirt. He can play on either wing or through the centre, and he's got an excellent left foot. I'd take him over Simao, and probably Malouda too.

Probably won't see any movement on it until La Liga is done and dusted though, if it's true.

Mr Alan

The likes of Tevez and Villa would have grown up with Real Madrid on a pedestal and that might be a deciding factor for them if they recieve an offer from there.

Think after Real, Liverpool and United would be next favourites. . . with Liverpools new investors, History, passionate fans, European form swinging it in their favour

el rabitos

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

its the capital of spain, its a beautiful city, Real are potential champions, they have a lot of quality in their team, they have a proven manager.

Don't be daft.

they have won nothing, thats nothing in 4 years. they have a proven manager who's style gets booed by the home fans, the manager is one of europes favourates to get the chop weather they win the championship or not. they have had several mangers over the past 4 years alone.

unstable is not even the word for real madrid. currently liverpool have everything any top player would want if not more right now than madrid. liverpool have every reason to feel that they could be competitive with real when it comes to signing any player.

daft? no. realistic. real are not as infinitely attractive as they once were or could be.

eirebhoy

Bellamy caught the Celtic bug in his short time there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJcv5ysaTo

Mr Alan

cough up 12 million Eirebhoy and he's yours!

Didnt think so

eirebhoy

£12m my arse. £6m would get him imo. Even then you could get Frei for half that and half his wages.

Dub13

eirebhoy wrote:

£12m my arse. £6m would get him imo. Even then you could get Frei for half that and half his wages.

I would say you would get him for around £8m maybe a bit less,his wages could be a prob for Celtic.

herbieflowers

Liverpool aren't in the bestbargaining position in relation to Bellamy eeing as h hasn't played half as well as he did for Blackburn (despite it being dwon to a clash of styles)...they can't expect to make a profit

~Rebel~

PHB wrote:

Personally, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest the Americans are really gona back him to the hilt

I dont know about that, shelling out 8million for a player whose position we're not even weak in just because Rafa wanted him is a pretty big sign to me..

even in the past week the Americans have still been saying if you want "snoogy doogy" we'll buy him. Interesting choice of made up name, but the point stands..

I think we'll see 1 or 2 high profile names joining in the coming few weeks, but could see the striker deal taking longer, waiting to see what actually pans out and who actually puts in solid offers and for what prices.

Chucky the tree

Seems Malouda is pretty much in the bag.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2090931,00.html

Zapp Brannigan

There's no doubting Malouda's quality, I just hope that he can adjust to the English style.

~Rebel~

its a step in the right direction anyway, proven quality rather then a hopeful gamble. If he's the solution for the left side, id nearly like to see all the others shipped out (kewell, zenden sold, gonzalez on loan), and see Adam Hamill come back as the backup for the left side. Pennant has done well, but still isnt top top notch, so wouldnt mind seeing Simao or Mancini come in as top choice there.

then theres the striker. anyones guess still at this point.

zing

Rafa happy things are going in the right direction following his meetings with Gillet/Hicks.
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/tm_headline=benitez%2D%2D8217%2Ds-positive-outlook%26method=full%26objectid=19218927%26siteid=50061-name_page.html

Sounds like they've given him the reassurances he was looking for.

Necronomicon

Wouldn't have minded seeing him end up at Old Trafford, he's a quality player.

mike65

snoogy doogy

Plays for the Baltimore BoneHeads as a linebacker I belive. Malouda is someone who I can't really 'place' dispite his apparences in the world cup.

Mike.

PHB

i disagree PHB, great players like Henry and Eto'o have said they would love to play for Liverpool. There is not many times you hear that about most other clubs.

There's a big difference between praising a club and playing for it.

have to say PHB that i'd disagree with that too. Think of all the clubs you mentioned only Real Madrid might be able to entice those players to them ahead of Liverpool.

Liverpool have as good a chance if not better than the other clubs you mentioned.

Real Madrid have the huge pull of the Spanish lifestyle and the size of the football club.
Look at it this way, players want to win trophies. Next season, no matter who they sign, Milan, Chelsea, and United are going to be competing in all four comps, and they have as good a chance as anyone at winning their leagues and the CL (although I think Milan and Chelsea have a better chance at it than United) Liverpool can not say the same. Arsenal is different, as while it has the same chance of winning things (although I think the fact that they equalled Liverpools league position this season despite their spat of injuries shows that they are going to be more likely to challenge next year), but Arsenal have the pull of being an emerging team with incredibly talented players. Although I could see why the pull of Arsenal and Liverpool are the same, although, personally I think Arsenal would have a bigger pull.

This isn't just random thoughts, just look at the facts. When was the last time Liverpool signed a big name player? Like a world star? When was the last time they were even in for one? Tevez if he has the choice of Real Madrid and Liverpool, will pick Real Madrid, unless he desperately wants to stay in the premiership, although I can't see any reason why he would. Real Madrid are going to be challenging for the league and the CL next season irrespective of whether he joins or not.

they have won nothing, thats nothing in 4 years. they have a proven manager who's style gets booed by the home fans, the manager is one of europes favourates to get the chop weather they win the championship or not. they have had several mangers over the past 4 years alone.

unstable is not even the word for real madrid. currently liverpool have everything any top player would want if not more right now than madrid. liverpool have every reason to feel that they could be competitive with real when it comes to signing any player.

daft? no. realistic. real are not as infinitely attractive as they once were or could be

Really? Who's that team that is top of their league currently? When was the last time Liverpool could say that? I can't honastly think you believe that. Real are challenging for their league this season, something Liverpool havn't done in a long time. They have a massive squad of incredibly talent players in every position, and despite a few weaknesses, they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world. Real Madrid still has the biggest pull of any club in the world imo, above every other team.

Also personally I dont think it is in a players best interest to sign for Chelsea or Real Madrid.

Maybe, there are a lot of failed players at Chelsea and Real Madird, no denying it (SWP and Baptista instantly come to mind). But players that are good enough to be wanted by those clubs tend to have so much self-belief that they believe they can break into any squad, which is probably why they are so good. It's why young talent will still join Chelsea despite all of the reasons not to.

I dont know about that, shelling out 8million for a player whose position we're not even weak in just because Rafa wanted him is a pretty big sign to me..

even in the past week the Americans have still been saying if you want "snoogy doogy" we'll buy him. Interesting choice of made up name, but the point stands..

I think we'll see 1 or 2 high profile names joining in the coming few weeks, but could see the striker deal taking longer, waiting to see what actually pans out and who actually puts in solid offers and for what prices.

I think they have shown that they are going to spend money, but I don't think they've done anything to show they are going to spend mega bucks. I would be gobsmacked if Liverpools net spend was above 40 million, and I expect it to be maybe around.

Mr Alan

PHB wrote:

There's a big difference between praising a club and playing for it.



This isn't just random thoughts, just look at the facts. When was the last time Liverpool signed a big name player? Like a world star? When was the last time they were even in for one? Tevez if he has the choice of Real Madrid and Liverpool, will pick Real Madrid, unless he desperately wants to stay in the premiership, although I can't see any reason why he would. Real Madrid are going to be challenging for the league and the CL next season irrespective of whether he joins or not.


I think they have shown that they are going to spend money, but I don't think they've done anything to show they are going to spend mega bucks. I would be gobsmacked if Liverpools net spend was above 40 million, and I expect it to be maybe around.

As far as i'm aware (not 100% sure) but didnt Eto'o say that he'd love to play for liverpool, and not just say he admires them?

in relation to the money issue and big names: isn't that the whole point? With the new investment it moves Liverpool onto the next level, one where they haven't been really able to compete in the past. this may or may not see them sign a massive name, but all i'm saying if Rafa wants a big name and the americans are willing to put up the money, i think Liverpool is in an EXTREMELY good position to attract them and also an extremely tempting opportunity for them, one of the biggest clubs in world football, great manager, great players, flying in europe, and with new investment - hopefully returning to former glories in the league.

~Rebel~

On Snoogy Doogy, this is kinda funny;

http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=2754.msg34270;topicseen

raven136

millersangel wrote:

As far as i'm aware (not 100% sure) but didnt Eto'o say that he'd love to play for liverpool, and not just say he admires them?

in relation to the money issue and big names: isn't that the whole point? With the new investment it moves Liverpool onto the next level, one where they haven't been really able to compete in the past. this may or may not see them sign a massive name, but all i'm saying if Rafa wants a big name and the americans are willing to put up the money, i think Liverpool is in an EXTREMELY good position to attract them and also an extremely tempting opportunity for them, one of the biggest clubs in world football, great manager, great players, flying in europe, and with new investment - hopefully returning to former glories in the league.

really hope its true that they are seriously backing him,just seems that rafa's main media man(gulliem ballague)has already said how frustrated he is that it will be august before their son arrives to sort some deals

Chardee MacDennis

it seems united have signed Nani and Anderson - apparently it puts them at about 51m spend already. if we dont keep up the gap will only become bigger at this rate.

Zapp Brannigan

Call_me_al wrote:

it seems united have signed Nani and Anderson - apparently it puts them at about 51m spend already. if we dont keep up the gap will only become bigger at this rate.

Incredible move by Utd. Those two are gonna be very good in the future and they'll have a great surrounding to mature in. LFC need to get the cheque book out now. Here's hoping as soon as Rafa's back from his holiday the announcements begin.

Mr Alan

Have faith in Rafa!

el rabitos

i have faith in rafa, just dont have alot of faith in parry to do what rafa asks

Mr Alan

cant see Parry being around after Christmas when the yanks son comes in. Plus Rafa says he has talked to the americans about transfers and is happy with how things are lining up.

Tevez
Mouluda/Silva
Simao/Quaresma

heres hoping

el rabitos

christmas is about 6 months too late i reckon. the good news is united have probably blown their load as far as the transfer market goes. thats probably all their major work done

Mr Alan

yea, sure didnt ferguson even say only lookin for 3 targets? thats em all done. no major forward player there, must be playing 4-5-1 in order to emulate Rafas style and record in europe

dying to see this Lucas fella next year.

i know christmas is a bit late for parry to leave but if he knows he's on the way out and Rafa doesnt think he is up for the dealings in the transfer market i sure rafa and that yanks will have no problem by-passin him in the mean time to get the job done

Bounty Hunter

has a deal been done to keep Mascherano yet? co that wont be cheap

Zapp Brannigan

It's horrible to think of the amount of flair Utd now have at their disposal. Scary!
Hope Lucas pushes Gerrard for a spot in the team, he really needs a kick in the arse.

Mr Alan

hope Lucas does alright, Gerrard needs a really big year if we wanna challenge for the title next year.

As for mascherano, he aint going anywhere, 1.5 million for an 18 month loan then 10 million to buy outright at the end of that period if i remember correctly.

joe123

raven136 wrote:

really hope its true that they are seriously backing him,just seems that rafa's main media man(gulliem ballague)has already said how frustrated he is that it will be august before their son arrives to sort some deals

whos this gulliem ballague? and whos son are you on about? The guy thats supposed to be replacing parry is it??

Not to gone on malouda although I havent really seen much of him, but I barely remember him in the world cup last year so thats not really a good thing.

We really need to make sure we sign a top striker I feel thats the main priority.A striker who gets goals. Eto or even Owen. Im not sure if about Villa or Torres as I feel there names go before their actual ability.They are great players though Id have no problem with one of them joining but I think Eto should be number one. I wouldnt mind seeing Owen coming in round 9 million along side eto (wishful thinking)

We need wingers secondly. Ricardo Quaresma is a great player, very christy ronaldo style but with a brain :P. Not gone on simao either although hes not bad. Joaquin would be a good signing no? Although he probably has a hefty price tag.Frank Ribery isnt bad either.

Speaking of strikers Luca Toni joined Bayern today for 11 million. Bit of a bargain if you ask me. Hes big and has talent although he is 30...