Erratic Garda Driving

CLADA

Kaiser2000 wrote:

*sigh* the usual response of a Boardsie who knows (s)he's wrong (and/or is a Garda themselves or has friends/relatives who are) so resorts to asking for links. :rolleyes:

Clearly you think these things don't happen and anyone who has a problem with the keystone cops brigade we call a police force MUST be making it up, right?

Watch the news, read the papers (incident reported regarding Blanch Gardai last weekend in the Sunday Tribune for example) or even read some of the other Gardai-related threads all over this site (including ones I've posted extensive examples of Garda corruption and incompetence in) and then come back to me!

Good news Kaiser! The Garda Ombudsman will now independently investigate any complaints you have in relation to the gardai and you will have six months to decide if you wish to make a complaint or not. Let us know how they deal with those extensive examples of Garda corruption and incompetence you regularly experience.
In an organisation of 12000 people whose sole function is to interact with the public 24/7 they are going to mess up sometimes, its no excuse but thats life!

I'm going to place my cards on the table here and admit that my grandfathers brother was a Garda:eek: (before you accuse me of being a Garda lover!)

No offence but the "patrol car outside the takeaway" and "the keystone cops" is getting boring at this stage, every job gets a break for meals and as for the Sunday Tribune!!!!!

Turner

murphaph wrote:

The only professional drivers the Guards have are their motorcycle ones. They have to go to England for training.

Motorcyclists are trained in Templemore and Dublin Castle, same as Gardai who are trained to drive patrol cars, jeeps, vans, etc etc. They train on the open roads in unmarked cars.

cast_iron

murphaph wrote:

The only professional drivers the Guards have are their motorcycle ones. They have to go to England for training.

Hmmm, I'm not usure I fully understand. What exactly does "professional drivers" mean? Additional specialised pursuit training maybe??
All Gardai must pass a test over here to drive a car. Fail it (1 attempt only) and you will never be allowed drive a Garda car.

TheNog

cast_iron wrote:

Hmmm, I'm not usure I fully understand. What exactly does "professional drivers" mean? Additional specialised pursuit training maybe??
All Gardai must pass a test over here to drive a car. Fail it (1 attempt only) and you will never be allowed drive a Garda car.

Not true. If you fail the test after the 2 week course you can go back and do it the test again. Usually those that sit the test are on Chiefs permission to drive the district cars. Chiefs is being phased out this year so all drivers will have to be trained in templemore.
All those being trained in templemore are doing high speed training in unmarked cars. As far as I know they are not being trained in high speed pursuits like in the U.S. where they perform the pit maneourve. Garda policy is to follow till the car being chased either crashes, stops or runs out of fuel.

cast_iron

TheNog wrote:

Not true. If you fail the test after the 2 week course you can go back and do it the test again. Usually those that sit the test are on Chiefs permission to drive the district cars.

I'm not a Garda, but that's what one told me. He's not long in the force, so perhaps he was told how things will work under the new scheme when the Chiefs are phased out.

miju

antodeco wrote:

but if it looks like a garda car, Im going to assume it is!

g'wan give us all a good laugh and tell us what looks like a Garda car. majority of em these days you wouldnt realise are unmarked cars till your being pulled over especially if your basing it on car aerials :rolleyes:

TheNog

cast_iron wrote:

I'm not a Garda, but that's what one told me. He's not long in the force, so perhaps he was told how things will work under the new scheme when the Chiefs are phased out.

I just finished in the college down there and was talking to a few on the course. Sure if those that failed the course and barred from driving would be madness. Alot of the drivers are on Chiefs permission. I've heard that the Dept of Justice is buying 100 acres for specialist units to train so it would be logical to move the driving school there and increase it in size with more instructors.

miju

just to back up what TheNog is saying if a Garda fails the course they can resit it. In fact the course has an incredibly high failure rate not because of the bad standard of driving but because of the incredibly high standard you have to get in order to pass

worded

Ever notice that anyone driving faster than you prompts "look at that lunatic"
Anyone slower is a slow coach?

kopparberg

i heard that the goverment passed laws called the road traffic acts and made gardai on duty exempt from almost all the sections of them (drunk driving and dangerous driving causing death are allowed)

kopparberg

murphaph wrote:

The only professional drivers the Guards have are their motorcycle ones. They have to go to England for training. Embarrasing if you ask me. We should be able to train ALL our Gardai in defensive driving and train certain units in high speed pursuit. What do the PSNI do in that (smaller) country?

the gardai both bikers and drivers all train in ireland

miju

agreed loppaberg the bikers most train in and around phoenix park

franksm

kopparberg wrote:

i heard that the goverment passed laws called the road traffic acts and made gardai on duty exempt from almost all the sections of them (drunk driving and dangerous driving causing death are allowed)

And I thought only 007 had a license to kill.

What are these road traffic acts ? The stuff of legend I tells you