IT Grads question: Work & Salary

damnyanks

Employment statistics in Ireland you mean.
Being in a University is an attribute which will usually be an advantage when at the screening process. If you are applying for a highly competitive job being from a non rated / poorly rated institute makes life extremely difficult, especially if you look outside of Ireland.

At no point did I ever state people in IT's are incapable of getting a decent job or incapable of doing a job.

nesf

Beta2 wrote:

out of all the grads that apply to work for us about 75% are uni students, 25% IT students, but the actual mix employed is closer to 50 - 50. So infact within our company IT grads typically have a better chance of being hired.

That isn't strictly true. Rephrase it as the IT guys who could get past your screening processes are more likely to get a job. What a lot of this comes down to, and I've seen this with friends of mine both from Universities and ITs, is that if you are good then where you did your third level stuff won’t hold you back, however; for the “middle of the class” more doors open for you if you hold a university qualification but this doesn’t mean you’ll actually get a job. Going to an IT doesn’t close these doors for you, it just means in the majority of cases that you have to go get work experience elsewhere first, and this is not something that is a bad thing and it’s generally speaking a lot better to have a qualification and X years work experience than just a qualification in most fields generally.

What Beta2 is probably seeing is that a guy who did a 2 year cert and then did 2 years work experience is better on a practical level than a guy coming fresh out of a 4 year degree course even though they might be the same age etc. That and the disparity between a focus on theory and a focus on practical experience that seems to describe the difference between most IT and Uni courses.