Tdi...td Red I.....t Red D&i

racso1975

Can somebody please explain the differerence between all these please cause i have seen TD red ! at 100bhp and normal tdi at 100 BHP in passt and audi range then there is the t red D red I........Whats the difference between them all

bazz26

VAG confuse the life out of people with their TDi badges.

I'm open to correction here but afaik this is the way it goes:

VW Passat 1997 - 2001
1.9 TDi - 90bhp
1.9 TDi - 110bhp

VW Passat 2002 - 2004
1.9 TDi - 100bhp PD
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

VW Passat 2004 - 2005
1.9 TDi - 100bhp PD
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

Audi A4 2001 - 2004
1.9 TDi - 100bhp
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

Audi A4 2004 - 2007
1.9 TDi - 115bhp PD
2.0 TDi - 140bhp
2.0 TDi - 170bhp

lightening

You seem to know your beans! Is there a 2 litre 200 BHP deisel golf?

Edit... silly question. What is the highest BHP golf in Deisel?

bazz26

lightening wrote:

You seem to know your beans! Is there a 2 litre 200 BHP deisel golf?

Edit... silly question. What is the highest BHP golf in Deisel?

MkIV Golf 1.9 TDi 150bhp.
MkV Golf 2.0 TDi 140bhp.

lightening

Thanks Bazz. Thought they might make something beefier.

Edit... just read your edit! The 150 must be quick, have the new GTi at the moment, it DRINKS petrol with a surfboard on the roofrack! Maybe time to rethink...

bazz26

lightening wrote:

Thanks Bazz. Thought they might make something beefier.

Not sure if the 2.0 TDi can be chipped.

The new Passat is available with a 170bhp version of the 2.0 TDi also.

bazz26

lightening wrote:

Thanks Bazz. Thought they might make something beefier.

Edit... just read your edit! The 150 must be quick, have the new GTi at the moment, it DRINKS petrol with a surfboard on the roofrack! Maybe time to rethink...

VW have a Golf GT too, it's a 1.4 TFSi, it has a turbo and supercharger, pumps out 170bhp. Not sure what it is like on petrol. About €5k cheaper than the GTi.

lightening

bazz26 wrote:

Not sure if the 2.0 TDi can be chipped.

The new Passat is available with a 170bhp version of the 2.0 TDi also.

I would be terrified to chip a new car! I really want to stick with the hatch... Thanks for your help though. Much appreciated.

Moanin

Bazz what does PD mean?

Thanks

bazz26 wrote:

VAG confuse the life out of people with their TDi badges.

I'm open to correction here but afaik this is the way it goes:

VW Passat 1997 - 2001
1.9 TDi - 90bhp
1.9 TDi - 110bhp

VW Passat 2002 - 2004
1.9 TDi - 100bhp PD
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

VW Passat 2004 - 2005
1.9 TDi - 100bhp PD
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

Audi A4 2001 - 2004
1.9 TDi - 100bhp
1.9 TDi - 130bhp PD

Audi A4 2004 - 2007
1.9 TDi - 115bhp PD
2.0 TDi - 140bhp
2.0 TDi - 170bhp

bazz26

PD = Pump-Duse. This is a different type of injection system to the older TDi units.

lightening

bazz26 wrote:

VW have a Golf GT too

Yeah, I saw it... Not to gone on it, don't know what it is.

bazz26

lightening wrote:

Yeah, I saw it... Not to gone on it, don't know what it is.

Yeah, the front doesn't stand out like the GTi.

peadair 11

I have a 02 T RedD Redi Passat and the log book says 100BHP. Badge and engine cover with this aswell. sticker in the boot from factory to comfirm BHP. Can anyone confirm if there is such a model???

HashSlinging

TDI is a dirty word.

Enygma

peadair 11 wrote:

I have a 02 T RedD Redi Passat and the log book says 100BHP. Badge and engine cover with this aswell. sticker in the boot from factory to comfirm BHP. Can anyone confirm if there is such a model???

A lot of the time the dealers just throw on whatever badges they find. I'd go by the sticker in the boot tbh. The PD130 model has a 6-speed gearbox, if you've only got 5 then it's more than likely the 100bhp model.

colm_mcm

the later 100bhp TDI's all had red d and red i

Captain Slow IRL

what's the story with "sdi" vw's then?!

colm_mcm

they're Saugdiesel Direct Injection i.e no turbo

Rowley Birkin QC

While we are at it anyone care to enlighten me about GT TDi? Is this a real model or just lads putting go faster badges on their middle class mobiles?

Curran

bigkev49 wrote:

While we are at it anyone care to enlighten me about GT TDi? Is this a real model or just lads putting go faster badges on their middle class mobiles?

Its a real model / engine - a mate has one and its fairly lively!! Not many around though

Rowley Birkin QC

Ah I dunno, I've seen a fair few of them around the place in Cork. Any idea how many horsepowers or torques they are putting out?

colm_mcm

lots of fake ones around though.

E92

bigkev49 wrote:

While we are at it anyone care to enlighten me about GT TDi? Is this a real model or just lads putting go faster badges on their middle class mobiles?

That would be the 150 bhp version of the Mk IV Golf TDI.

As for the passat, before the car was facelifted in 2001, there was a 1.9 TDI with PD technology and 115 bhp. PD stands for Pumpe Düse and is German for Pump Jet, but refers to the fact that the PD models boast an individual injector for each cylinder more commonly known as Unit Injection. After the car was facelifted, the TDI badge refered to either the 100 bhp or 130 bhp version.

bazz26

bigkev49 wrote:

While we are at it anyone care to enlighten me about GT TDi? Is this a real model or just lads putting go faster badges on their middle class mobiles?

The Golf GT TDi is a UK only model. Any you see here are UK imports or just have fake badges stuck on. The GT TDi is basically a diesel with the same suspension set up, trim and spec as the standard Golf GTi. The closest model sold in Ireland was the Highline spec.

There were a couple of different GT TDi versions also:

Golf GT TDi - 130bhp
Golf GT TDi - 150bhp

Biro

E92 wrote:

That would be the 150 bhp version of the Mk IV Golf TDI.

As for the passat, before the car was facelifted in 2001, there was a 1.9 TDI with PD technology and 115 bhp. PD stands for Pumpe Düse and is German for Pump Jet, but refers to the fact that the PD models boast an individual injector for each cylinder more commonly known as Unit Injection. After the car was facelifted, the TDI badge refered to either the 100 bhp or 130 bhp version.

No, that was never in the passat. They put that 115 into the golf then as the first GT TDi before they went with the 130 and 150 models in England.

Really, the whole tdi badge thing is just so silly. VW Ireland just went to town on it with various colours.

Lord Nikon

What's the story with a TDI, see them about on Passats.

bazz26

neuromancer wrote:

What's the story with a TDI, see them about on Passats.

More than likely a fake badge stuck on. The highest powered 1.9 TDi available in the B5 Passat was 130bhp which wore the TDi badge for a while afaik.

omega man

bazz26 wrote:

MkIV Golf 1.9 TDi 150bhp.
MkV Golf 2.0 TDi 140bhp.

The MKV golf GT comes in the 2.0 TDI 170 engine.

HashSlinging

As does the Seat Altea FR Tdi, the SEAT Leon FR TDi , and the Skoda Vrs Tdi.

Think they all have red lettering.

lightening

Jaaaaaaysus! They can't keep it simple!

The golf GT with the two litre engine 170bhp sounds interesting...

Thanks people.

MercMad

No, that was never in the passat. They put that 115 into the golf then as the first GT TDi before they went with the 130 and 150 models in England.

I think the UK had the 115BHP Passat too Tdi I only ever saw them in Northern Ireland, a friend of mine bought one new, would have been sometime in year 2000 !