Safari for Windows

NutJob

Has a 0-Day security hole just posted on Full-Disclosure.

Exploits already published online.

Id uninstall for a while if i was ye.

jahalpin

Safari still wont work on Vista HP. Has anyone managed to get it working on Vista?

Think I'll stick with IE 7

rsynnott

Peteee wrote:

It's pretty damn fast, but the fonts are horrible.

I'm sticking with Opera

Bizarrely, it uses MacOS text anti-aliasing on Windows; that's why the fonts are weird-looking.

faceman

NutJob wrote:

Has a 0-Day security hole just posted on Full-Disclosure.

Exploits already published online.

Id uninstall for a while if i was ye.

no different than IE or FF so!

Thrill

Just downloaded it and its working fine though it took a while longer than ie7 to load ( i haven't rebooted yet though).

I doubt I'll give up FF for it though.

enda1

seamus wrote:

Nope, it continually crashes for me.

Doesn't seem to be anywhere to give Beta feedback...

The little 'bug' beside the address bar seems to be for submitting feedback.

Annoying the way you cant ctrl+enter to fill in the www. and .com bits.

8T8

rsynnott wrote:

Bizarrely, it uses MacOS text anti-aliasing on Windows; that's why the fonts are weird-looking.

Yeah that seems to be the problem they aren't using cleartype that Firefox/Opera/IE use.

It seems a straight port of the OSX version with no considerations for the Windows platform in terms of it's UI and is very buggy after trying it out now for an extended period on two different machines.

Again it looks pretty much like just a platform to spur iPhone web apps as the iPhone uses Safari which is why they have kept how it behaves on OSX the same as under Windows.

(For those wanting speed well Opera or CPU optimized builds of Firefox easily close the gap at least till Firefox 3 is ready)

rsynnott

8T8 wrote:

Yeah that seems to be the problem they aren't using cleartype that Firefox/Opera/IE use.

It seems a straight port of the OSX version with no considerations for the Windows platform in terms of it's UI

Which is suggestive. iTunes is the same. It's not entirely impossible that they might put out a multi-platform development tool.

By the way, many people prefer the Apple antialiasing.

8T8 wrote:

and is very buggy after trying it out now for an extended period on two different machines.

The Windows version is indeed apparently very buggy. Remember, though, that it's a beta.

8T8 wrote:

Again it looks pretty much like just a platform to spur iPhone web apps as the iPhone uses Safari which is why they have kept how it behaves on OSX the same as under Windows .

Oh, I think it's more than that. They have about four months to fix the current problems (before Leopard release), which shouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility. Once it's reliable, it'll be an attractive alternative to Firefox for some people, especially for heavily Javascript-dependent apps. Google recently announced that Google Gears would shortly be available for Safari, for instance.

8T8 wrote:

(For those wanting speed well Opera or CPU optimized builds of Firefox easily close the gap at least till Firefox 3 is ready)

I'd be incredibly surprised if processor-optimised builds of Firefox made any difference to anything except possibly executable size. The 'target a specific processor within an architecture' thing is generally a bit of a myth; modern compilers produce alternative execution paths for supported processors where beneficial.

copacetic

rsynnott wrote:

Which is suggestive. iTunes is the same. It's not entirely impossible that they might put out a multi-platform development tool.

By the way, many people prefer the Apple antialiasing.

I don't know how anyone could 'prefer' it. I turned it to 'light' and it sorted
out the body text like I am typing, however they still try to blur the edges on bold type like the thread tools above. So they look absolutely terrible.

rsynnott

copacetic wrote:

I don't know how anyone could 'prefer' it. I turned it to 'light' and it sorted
out the body text like I am typing, however they still try to blur the edges on bold type like the thread tools above. So they look absolutely terrible.

All down to preference and what you're used to, I suppose. I find Cleartype (the Windows one) hideous, but then I've been mostly using Linux and MacOS on the desktop since before Cleartype came in, so I never got used to it. (Linux and MacOS, of course, each have their own, different, anti-aliasing, but they're more similar to each other than to Cleartype).

copacetic

rsynnott wrote:

All down to preference and what you're used to, I suppose. I find Cleartype (the Windows one) hideous, but then I've been mostly using Linux and MacOS on the desktop since before Cleartype came in, so I never got used to it. (Linux and MacOS, of course, each have their own, different, anti-aliasing, but they're more similar to each other than to Cleartype).

hmm, we'll have to agree to disagree. i like my type to look readable. bold type looking nearly double its size and totally blurred is not what I am looking for!

alan4cult

Beta update today. Fixed my font problems.

rc28

I downloaded safari for windows yesterday just out of curiosity and i used it for a few hours and have come to the conclusion that it simply is crap. I usually use firefox and it is simply in a different league to safari. The amount of extensions for firefox is amazing and safari seems boring and pathetic in comparison. Btw why does safari make text slightly blurred in appearance?
I honestly havn't noticed much if any speed difference between ff and safari- i use the "fasterfox" extension. Also it crashed once but I suppose it's a beta so i'll forgive it that.

rc28

mmmm....:rolleyes:
http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/06/wired_news_benc.html

alan4cult

Speed is not just internet connection it is how fast it renders content eg. JS and that is what Safari is better at. I agree it is very "sheep-skin" but on a mac they have safari extensions and I'm sure they'll arrive to Windows soon.

Just downloaded the beta earlier, so far I quite like it. I can't stand Firefox, mainly due to the big-headedness of some of their userbase - blocking IE for example and bullying you into using it. Seems I may have found an alternative to IE that I'll like using.