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German Higher level

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    What he said.That would suck serious balls.

    On a similar note I never noticed it until today, but the older exam papers are so much more difficult than the ones we've gotten in recent years.I swear if we got something like the 2002 paper i'd be completely ****ed.I couldn't even understand what the **** the grammar section was about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Gowranistan


    I couldn't even understand what the **** the grammar section was about.

    Welcome to my world. Guessing and kowing a little bit usually get me at least half marks. Anyway if that does come up just do the letter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Welcome to my world. Guessing and kowing a little bit usually get me at least half marks. Anyway if that does come up just do the letter.
    ......You're meant to do both.The letter AND the grammar thing.You don't choose between them!You choose between the letter and some picture with words under it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Turnip2000


    The aplied grammer is only worth about 5% so in my honest opinion it can go suck on a lemon...Who wants an A1 anyway. Lemon Suckers thats who!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Gowranistan


    ......You're meant to do both.The letter AND the grammar thing.You don't choose between them!You choose between the letter and some picture with words under it.

    I meant the live aid topical thing they didn't want for the ausserung. I know your meant to do both. Which is the picture thing with letters under it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭madnirvana


    how do u guys answer the comprehention?

    do u read first then answer or u read and when u find answer write it down?

    i somehow spend more than 45 minutes on the comprehentions

    any tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Turnip2000


    madnirvana wrote:
    how do u guys answer the comprehention?

    do u read first then answer or u read and when u find answer write it down?

    i somehow spend more than 45 minutes on the comprehentions

    any tips?

    Read the small words in italics above the comprehension and questions first because they will give you a general idea of the story. Then you read the comp.

    I Answer the questions as i read because i find it easier that way...your less likely to leave a point out. And last time i checked they dont take marks away if ya write the wrong thing with the right thing.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭madnirvana


    How do u say..

    All of the people were schocked?


    'Alle leute waren Schockiert'' :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    madnirvana wrote:
    How do u say..

    All of the people were schocked?


    'Alle leute waren Schockiert'' :confused:

    Thats right but Leute is a noun, therefore a capital L. And schockiert doesnt have a Capital letter at the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Turnip2000


    madnirvana wrote:
    How do u say..

    All of the people were schocked?


    'Alle leute waren Schockiert'' :confused:

    Alle die Leute waren Schokiert?? hmmm its the simle things that make ya think/feel stupid!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭madnirvana


    E92 wrote:
    Thats right but Leute is a noun, therefore a capital L. And schockiert doesnt have a Capital letter at the start.


    Thanks :D

    and good luck tomorrow if ur doing german.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Gowranistan


    madnirvana wrote:
    how do u guys answer the comprehention?

    do u read first then answer or u read and when u find answer write it down?

    i somehow spend more than 45 minutes on the comprehentions

    any tips?

    I usually read the entire thing through but it takes longer so don't do it if you area slow writer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Can someone tell me quicklu if this is an acceptable passive sentence

    ''Er wird dass gesagt''

    Does that even make sense?I know you have to use ''werden'' and the past participle of something, but did I use it in the right way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 Gowranistan


    Can someone tell me quicklu if this is an acceptable passive sentence

    ''Er wird dass gesagt''

    Does that even make sense?I know you have to use ''werden'' and the past participle of something, but did I use it in the right way?

    It sounds all right to me. Anyway i really should be asleep or ill crash on the way to the damn exam. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    madnirvana wrote:
    how do u guys answer the comprehention?

    do u read first then answer or u read and when u find answer write it down?

    i somehow spend more than 45 minutes on the comprehentions

    any tips?
    I usually just read the lines that have the answers on them.....usually cuts out bout half of the reading/translating.Only problem is if on the first comprehension, question 4 requires you to talk about something that isn't really covered well in the first section.If this happens I briefly skim through it and through some random stuff done, along with a line reference.Am done in bout 35 minutes and usually get 70+%.Much better at the 2nd comprehension though.Usually get 80% there.Pity I suck at everything else on it.Well i'm usually good at the letter, but out of the 50 marks going for the ausserung zum thema and the grammer, I usually get <25....and thats on a good paper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    It sounds all right to me. Anyway i really should be asleep or ill crash on the way to the damn exam. Good luck.
    Thanks great.Might just through something like that into my letter.It can't hurt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭madnirvana


    waht does ''Er wird dass gesagt'' mean:confused:

    is this sentence ok? ''Wenn ich bin nicht krank, würde ich nach deutschland fahren''.
    (if i were not sick, i would have travelled to germany)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    madnirvana wrote:
    waht does ''Er wird dass gesagt'' mean:confused:

    is this sentence ok? ''Wenn ich bin nicht krank, würde ich nach deutschland fahren''.
    (if i were not sick, i would have travelled to germany)?

    "Er wird dass gesagt" is wrong. The passive is used to stress the importance of the action (irgendwas sagen) rather than the doer (er). Hence, it should be "es wird gesagt". There's some examples of this in this thread eg. Es wird gesagt, dass die Iren rote Haare haben.

    Madnirvana, you need to use the conditional in this sentence (in both clauses). Here it would be,
    "Wäre ich nicht krank, würde ich nach Deutschland fahren" (If I wasn't sick, I'd go to Germany) or
    Wäre ich nicht Krank gewesen, wäre ich nach Deutschland gefahren (If I hadn't have been sick, I would have gone to Germany) :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 spongebobgirl


    Woah, this thread got REALLY pedantic last night!

    How'd everyone get on? I was so glad the first comprehension wasn't too hard, and the questions were mostly in order of where the answer appeared in the text.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭nick23


    Yeah wasnt difficult had some problem with the readin comprehensions seeing as you had to put the german answers in your own words. Apart from that no major problems I'd predict a midrange B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭lemansky


    Woah, this thread got REALLY pedantic last night!

    How'd everyone get on? I was so glad the first comprehension wasn't too hard, and the questions were mostly in order of where the answer appeared in the text.
    Have to say I was pleased with everything overall.Can't complain-its over now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 spongebobgirl


    Ditto! :) I nearly ran out of time on the letter - the comprehensions were quite long, but it was ok. What was the deal with the tape? The year of the dolphins?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭nick23


    Yeah same about the letter.

    I think it was fines for fishermen because dolphins are getting caught in their nets, their over fishing and their dirtying the ocean.

    Thats what i understood anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 spongebobgirl


    nick23 wrote:
    Yeah same about the letter.

    I think it was fines for fishermen because dolphins are getting caught in their nets, their over fishing and their dirtying the ocean.

    Thats what i understood anyway!
    It was so random though, and unfair on students who didn't guess that it was about dolphins. It doesn't really test your general German comprehension! I ain't complainin' though.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Enemy Of Fate


    Woah, this thread got REALLY pedantic last night!

    How'd everyone get on? I was so glad the first comprehension wasn't too hard, and the questions were mostly in order of where the answer appeared in the text.
    The first comprehension was the easiest its been in years...and I could actually do question 4 in it!!Damn thing took ages to do though...good job the 2nd comprehension took like half the time it should have!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    I thought the first comprehension was fairly easy, for once in german I actually understood what went on. Part 4 of the listening was a bit tough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭madnirvana


    grgr that auserang zu theme was so bad:mad: :mad:

    didnt even know what they were asking :eek:

    left it:(


    and tape was easy except last part grgrgrgr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭DtotheK


    **** dolphins!!

    The paper was grand...
    i'll prob get the usual B (hopefully..)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭me2gud4u


    Beauty Of A Paper!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    I was delighted with the paper, but I could see why people didnt like the Äußerungen. The year of the Dolphin- didnt get that bit at all,otherwise the paper was nice. Good to see all the English like words in the paper yesterday, they're normally not that fond of using the most up to date German in the exampaper. Because of course German is becoming more and more like English everyday, with the ever increasing Anglicisation of the language.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭fuinneamh


    Doable paper, part i liked most was on the last part of the second comprhension. Usually you've to match 6 parts and you've 9 answers, this year there was only 6 meant i got some of the marks compared to my usual zero.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭Jayeire


    wooooooooooooo its over!!! My german teacher was sum fool :)



    that is all;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    An Citeog wrote: »
    For those of you who have problems with distinguishing the gender of nouns, this may be of help:

    Masculine-der

    nouns ending in:
    -er/ler eg. der Metzger
    -ling eg. der Liebling
    -or/ator eg. der Direktor
    -eur eg. der Saboteur
    -ant/ent eg. der Denunziant
    -ismus/asmus eg. der Enthusiasmus
    -ist eg. der Extremist

    also, nouns constructed using the verb stem eg. schlagen- der Schlag

    Feminine-die

    nouns ending in:
    -ung eg. die Regierung
    -heit/keit/igkeit eg. die Freiheit
    -e eg. die Reise (important exception here is 'das Ende'
    -t eg. die Fahrt
    -schaft eg. die Mannschaft
    -ei eg. die Tyrannei
    -ion/ation eg die Reaktion
    -tät/ität eg. die Aktivität
    -anz/enz eg. die Ignoranz
    -ie eg. die Bürokratie
    -ik/atik eg. die Politik
    -age eg. die Massage
    -esse eg. die Delikatesse (important exception here is 'das Interesse')
    -ose eg. die Diagnose
    -ur/üre eg. die Literatur
    -ade eg. die Blockade

    Neutral-das

    nouns ending in:
    -tum eg. das Wachstum
    -nis eg. das Erlaubnis
    -sal eg. das Schicksal
    -sel eg. das Insel
    -ar/är eg. das Vokabular
    -at eg. das Sekretariat
    -ment eg. das Parlament
    -ing das Marketing
    ohne Endung eg. das Problem

    also, nouns constructed using verb infinitive eg. trinken- das Trinken
    and nouns beginning with 'Ge-' eg. das Gespräch

    Hope that helps :)

    Die Erlaubnis... die Insel.


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