Louth Vs Wexford

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Wexford have named their team for the game on Sunday. Morrissey and Lyng are making their championship debuts, Banville is out injured and Forde is 100% fit apparently.

Cooper, Morris, Wallace, Malone, Morrissey, D Murphy, N Murphy, Stafford, Bradley, Deeley, Barry, Flynn, Lyng, Colfer, Forde

blackbelt

My prediction scoreline

Wexford 1-13 Louth 14

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

My prediction scoreline

Wexford 1-13 Louth 14

If you knew anything about Louth football blackbelt you wouldn't predict Louth not to get a goal. In their last 6 Championship outings they've scored 7 goals. The only team they haven't scored a goal against is Meath, which was an uncharacteristic game in many ways. They have also scored 8 goals in their 7 outings in League 1 this season. The only teams they didn't score goals against were Armagh and Galway, 2 stiff defences. If I was to put a safe bet on this game it would be that Louth will get a goal. Also Louth have racked up a score total of 100 in Division 1B, joint top with Derry. Wexford in comparison have a score total of 103 in Division 2B. I think those statistics back up my conviction that Louth are a much more potent force in attack than Wexford.

ergo

cruiserweight wrote:

Wicklow are a division 4 team, if I was from Louth I would be more worries about the performance in the other two games and the first half against Wicklow in the 3rd game.

as Smarmore mentioned later on in the thread he wouldn't belittle Wicklow like some people ^ on this thread

Wicklow will be in Division 4 next year but are coming out of Division 2B and finished 5th behind Cavan, Meath, Wexford and Sligo only losing to Meath by a goal (a much lauded Meath side in the past few weeks) and hitting the post in the last minute of that game.

You're right, the O' Byrne cup 0-7 to 0-5 win counts for little at this stage but the NFL game between WW and WX was poor from both sides and WX will have to be on much better form to give Louth a game. They are seriously disadvantaged by Louth's 3 championship game start on them, the 1st replay with Wicklow in particular was a real battle and will really stand to Louth, as will that 2nd half performance in Croker

being from south Wicklow I would normally be hoping for a Wexford win but this time I hope Louth go on a good run

cruiserweight

ergo wrote:

as Smarmore mentioned later on in the thread he wouldn't belittle Wicklow like some people ^ on this thread

Of course he wouldn't belittle Wicklow, why would he, he wants to build up Louths victory over them. I am not trying to belittle Wicklow either, but the facts are that they will be a division 4 team next year. They are improving but still have a lot of improving to do.

Smarmore

cruiserweight wrote:

Of course he wouldn't belittle Wicklow, why would he, he wants to build up Louths victory over them. I am not trying to belittle Wicklow either, but the facts are that they will be a division 4 team next year. They are improving but still have a lot of improving to do.

Well they only finished 2 places below you guys in the League this year and remember cruiserweight, had the format of the leagues not been adjusted this year Wexford would still be in the bottom division next year along with Wicklow. Louth on the other hand won that division and league the year before and had a good run in the league this year. As I said before Louths placing in Division 1B does not reflect the level of performance.

cruiserweight

A bit of a boost for football in Wexford in general, for the build up to the game on Sunday. Foran had previously been on the senior team. Also the junior and senior squads have the same management team afaik

Hogan Stand wrote:

Wexford ended Meath’s two-year reign as Leinster junior football champions when they recorded a 2-14 to 2-9 extra-time victory in Wednesday night’s semi-final at Pairc Tailteann.

Meath looked set for victory when TJ Garry slotted home a penalty in the dying minutes of normal time, but there was still enough time for Paddy Sinnott to reply with a pointed free which left the sides level on 2-7 to 1-10.

Despite having their top scorer Darren Foran sent off, Wexford’s superior fitness stood them in good stead in extra-time and they sealed their place in the final with a late goal from Paddy Byrne.

Scorers – Wexford: D Foran 1-3, P Sinnott 0-5, P Byrne 1-1, D Farrell 0-3, J Mernagh and P Atkinson 0-1 each. Meath: JL Magee 0-4, B Meade and TJ Garry 1-0 each, M Burke, J Quinney, JB O’Reilly, P Clinton and C O’Connor 0-1 each.

blackbelt

Smarmore,

Not trying to be smart or obnoxious or the like but what I know about Louth football is completely irrelevant to what might happen on Sunday as far as the score is concerned.You can throw trends out the window come Sunday because it doesn't always come through,especially in the championship against a bigger team.A team may go a series of matches scoring goals left,right and centre and then have a barren goal spell for one or two matches.

However,if you feel strongly about Louths goal tally which I admit is quite impressive to say the least and if Louth score a few goals,I'll predict the score as....

Wexford 1-10 Louth 2-5.I think Wexford will win with a point or two separating the teams.

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

Not trying to be smart or obnoxious or the like but what I know about Louth football is completely irrelevant to what might happen on Sunday as far as the score is concerned.

Try a bit harder!! If you don't know anything about Louth football stop posting rambling nonsense on this thread.

blackbelt wrote:

especially in the championship against a bigger team.

That's just so retarded it barely deserves a comment.

blackbelt wrote:

Wexford 1-10 Louth 2-5.I think Wexford will win with a point or two separating the teams.

OMG!! For a start you've suddenly lowered Wexfords tally from 1-13 to 1-10. Why so? Did something convince you that Louths defence has improved since yesterday? Or Wexfords forwards have suddenly got worse over night?? Then you knock Louths score from 14 scores to 7!! I'll refrain from personal insults although they are very much deserved. I will be very surprised if Louth only return a tally of 7 scores. I would be surprised if either team has less than 10 scores. It should be a free-flowing, entertaining, high-scoring contest because both teams approach the game in a very positive way. Why don't you just stick to the Dublin thread blackbelt, it seems to be the only team you know anything about.

Smarmore

ergo wrote:

as Smarmore mentioned later on in the thread he wouldn't belittle Wicklow like some people ^ on this thread

Wicklow will be in Division 4 next year but are coming out of Division 2B and finished 5th behind Cavan, Meath, Wexford and Sligo only losing to Meath by a goal (a much lauded Meath side in the past few weeks) and hitting the post in the last minute of that game.

You're right, the O' Byrne cup 0-7 to 0-5 win counts for little at this stage but the NFL game between WW and WX was poor from both sides and WX will have to be on much better form to give Louth a game. They are seriously disadvantaged by Louth's 3 championship game start on them, the 1st replay with Wicklow in particular was a real battle and will really stand to Louth, as will that 2nd half performance in Croker

being from south Wicklow I would normally be hoping for a Wexford win but this time I hope Louth go on a good run

Thanks Ergo!! To be fair I thought Wicklow were excellent in the first 2 and a half games. They have 3 top class players in Glynn, Dalton and Gill. Walsh also was immense in the midfield and is a great addition to the team. Hopefully you'll have a good run in the Tommy Murphy Cup and the League next year and prove what ye're capable of. Btw ended up going on the lash with a group of Wicklow fans in the Big Tree after the first game. Was great craic and it would be difficult to imagine the same kind of atmosphere with fans of some other counties!!

blackbelt

Ha ha...awwh you are so going out of the Leinster Championship on Sunday.:D

Maybe if you read my post you will actually understand that "knowledge" of Louth football is completely irrelevant you fool.Trends and form does not equate into every match.Louth might not even score one goal.I think you are just being petty because I have a valid opinion that Wexford will win and just because you think it will be a high scoring match does not make it so.As far as I'm concerned,anything can happen and yes Louth may get 7 scores.I think you've completely gotten out of your depth overhyping Louth and talking about Laois before you play Wexford,you fail to realise that Louth are not that good.Come on,it took you three attempts to put Wicklow away,I'd be very concerned about Wexford if I was a Louth supporter.Its a bit early to start being so over-confident.

As far as the personal insults go,I'm more than happy to read them and laugh my socks off.You are hoping that I'll retaliate so you can go crying to Kaimera in the hope I'd be banned just because I have the opinion your precious little Louth may lose.My valid opinion is too much for you because its more in touch with reality unlike yourself who thinks Laois will be beaten by Louth before you even meet Wexford.

Grow up and stop flaming.

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

Ha ha...awwh you are so going out of the Leinster Championship on Sunday.:D

Maybe if you read my post you will actually understand that "knowledge" of Louth football is completely irrelevant you fool.Trends and form does not equate into every match.Louth might not even score one goal.I think you are just being petty because I have a valid opinion that Wexford will win and just because you think it will be a high scoring match does not make it so.As far as I'm concerned,anything can happen and yes Louth may get 7 scores.I think you've completely gotten out of your depth overhyping Louth and talking about Laois before you play Wexford,you fail to realise that Louth are not that good.Come on,it took you three attempts to put Wicklow away,I'd be very concerned about Wexford if I was a Louth supporter.Its a bit early to start being so over-confident.

As far as the personal insults go,I'm more than happy to read them and laugh my socks off.You are hoping that I'll retaliate so you can go crying to Kaimera in the hope I'd be banned just because I have the opinion your precious little Louth may lose.My valid opinion is too much for you because its more in touch with reality unlike yourself who thinks Laois will be beaten by Louth before you even meet Wexford.

Grow up and stop flaming.

What are you raving on about? Go out and get some fresh air before you start hyperventilating. Btw you don't have a valid opinion, you haven't mentioned one player on either side throughout this post other than Mattie Forde. You claim knowledge of Louth football is irrelevent to this argument??? We're discussing Louth and Wexford blackbelt....

And don't start calling me a fool, particularly after that post. Silly little boy.

cruiserweight

I was just sent the line up from the junior game last night. There were a couple of guys on the Wexford team who had been playing for Wexford in the league, it seems that perhaps the management was using the game to keep them fit or maybe test their fitness, in particular I am thinking of Sunderland who played most of the league games. Maybe some of those guys will be involved later in the championship or indeed off of the bench on Sunday.

Smarmore

cruiserweight wrote:

I was just sent the line up from the junior game last night. There were a couple of guys on the Wexford team who had been playing for Wexford in the league, it seems that perhaps the management was using the game to keep them fit or maybe test their fitness, in particular I am thinking of Sunderland who played most of the league games. Maybe some of those guys will be involved later in the championship or indeed off of the bench on Sunday.

Could be a good tactic because a lot of the players are bound to be lacking in match fitness. Good to see you guys wrestling that title off Meath. Hate to see them winning anything!!

Smarmore

Preview from the Hogan Stand:


Bank of Ireland Leinster SFC
Louth v. Wexford (Croke Park)
It took Louth three games to finally find their true form and when they finally did, the Wee County are an impressive side to watch. The return of Martin Farrelly at midfield played a huge part in their comfortable win over Wicklow, while the performance of midfield partner Paddy Keenan was also inspiring. Wexford manager Paul Bealin is not impressed with the lack of action his side has suffered and this may have a huge bearing on the outcome of this match. Louth have an abundance of talent up front, as Mark Stanfield, JP Rooney and Shane Lennon will cause problems for any defence in the country, while Wexford’s reliance on Mattie Forde is well documented, while the expected loss of PJ Banville is also a huge blow to the Model County. Three tough games against Wicklow will have brought Louth on leaps and bounds, while Wexford enter the match cold. Eamon McEneaney’s troops are tipped to march on to the semi final.
Verdict: Louth


Pretty much sums up what I've been saying. I think with the balance back in midfield and superior firepower Louth will indeed march on.

blackbelt

Smarmore,I don't suppose you actually grasp what I've been saying in my posts.Past form and trends mean nothing going into this match.What part of that do you not understand?
Just because Louth have scored many goals thus far does not mean they will this Sunday.You have this idealistic view that they will but just because I point out that they MAY not,you get your knickers in a twist.You seem to think that I know nothing about Louth football for the simple fact that at first I stated a scoreline where Louth didn't score a goal.Then when I claimed that knowledge of Louth football (trends and form) is irrelevent,you claim that I do not know what I'm talking about.

The fact is,you're talking up Louth-Laois on the other thread and overlooking Wexford.Thats very short-sighted.I think you should be very weary of Wexford.A lot of people are speculating that Louths three outings is something that Wexford will be worried about and rightfully so but Louth fans and the media fail to realise that Paul Bealin and Wexford will have studied Louth and what their strengths and weaknesses are.ie JP Rooney most noticeably.

Furthermore,when I gave Louth two goals in the scoreline,I purposely reduced the amount of points scored to see your reaction and well,the results speak for themself.

Also,it may be a low scoring match,this is GAA and you never know what kind of match you will get.

How is my point not valid either?I do not need to name players on each side just for your liking or to appease you.I know and a lot of board members here know that I have some knowledge on nearly every team in the country.I've been at two Wicklow-Louth matches in Croke Park and managed to see some of the second match in Parnell Park from Clontarf Golf Club.So before you accuse me of having little or no knowledge about the two teams,take your head out of your WEE @$$.

Also,you pointed out earlier on the Hill thread,I do not know what you look like.Well I'm not silly and I'm not little either.I'm 6'3 and weigh 13 stone.I have a great leaving cert,college qualifications and work for a top company in Ireland a lot of people would kill to work for.

As far as your having a pop at me goes,I just laugh off your "insults".As far as the hyperventilating goes,don't flatter yourself,you are not that funny.I'm not rising to your bait like I did in the Hill thread.From your posts that you've made,you've done nothing but try to get a rise out of people or take cheap shots.

redzerdrog

not as confident as some of the lads here but think louth will scrape a victory as they will defo be a lot sharper than wexford.

The key to louths win will have to be putting jamie carr on mattie forde if this happens louth will win if it doesnt then i fear what mattie could do to page.

Smarmore

blackbelt wrote:

I'm 6'3 and weigh 13 stone.I have a great leaving cert,college qualifications and work for a top company in Ireland a lot of people would kill to work for.

Hard to believe you followed up telling me to take my head out of my "WEE @$$" with that. I'm tired of you waffling and rambling on like a deranged lunatic blackbelt so I'm just going to ignore everything you say from now on. Please do vice-versa. Btw says a lot for this "top company in Ireland" when you spend 90% of your day posting meandering, tedious little GAA articles on this site.

mise_me_fein

Anyone know where John O'Brien will be playing this week. I don't know if many teams outside Louth know about him but he's some player. I think he was in corner back when he ran the whole length of the pitch in Navan last year and scored a great point.

The point I'm making here is that Louth may not only be attacking in the forwards but also from defence and sure look at Paddy Keenan in midfield. If he hit the form he did in the second half Vs Wicklow then it's goodbye to Wexford.

Mattie Who?

cruiserweight

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2007/0615/louth.html?gaa

Sunday's curtain-raiser at Croke Park, throw-in 2.20pm, sees Wexford engage in their first meaningful game of the summer, while Louth dust themselves down for their fourth battle in recent weeks.

The Wee County took three efforts to finally get the better of Wicklow. However, Eamon McEneaney's charges showed improvement with every game, and eventually thumped Mick O'Dwyer's men 2-18 to 0-11.

If they are to build on that success, they will need the likes of Mark Stanfield, Aaron Hoey, John O'Brien and JP Rooney to reproduce the second-half display that saw them dispose of Wicklow in such a ruthless, albeit belated, manner.

Wexford's fortunes, almost inevitably, are tied in to those of their one household name, Mattie Forde.

The Yellowbellies' talisman was roundly criticised for his stamp on Offaly's Shane Sullivan in last year's Championship, but Sunday offers the International Rules star the chance to bury some of those memories.

Paul Bealin will have to do without dual star PJ Banville, but if he can get Forde in the right frame of mind, the Model County manager can then set his sights on upsetting Laois in the semi-final.

Louth can look back with pride on their second-half performance against the Garden County the last day, but they might not have enough in the tank to advance to the provincial semi-finals.

Verdict: Wexford

cruiserweight

I was just checking some of the odds on Paddy Power, this game is the favourite to be the highest scoring 13-8 and Mattie Forde is the favourite to be the highest scoring player of the weekend across all games 2-1

mise_me_fein

I seen this as well. He says Louth "might not have enough in the tan".....is this for real???? Teams improve with games, they don't get tired, especially after two weeks off.

Anyhow, just shows no one can call this game.

mise_me_fein

cruiserweight wrote:

I was just checking some of the odds on Paddy Power, this game is the favourite to be the highest scoring 13-8 and Mattie Forde is the favourite to be the highest scoring player of the weekend across all games 2-1

The Louth players usually spread out their scoring unless Darren Clarke plays. I would be surprised to see any Louth player score more than Mattie Forde.

cruiserweight

mise_me_fein wrote:

The Louth players usually spread out their scoring unless Darren Clarke plays. I would be surprised to see any Louth player score more than Mattie Forde.

Well no Clarke in the line-up. What is the story with Lennon, is he out of form or out of favour?

Louth (SF v Wexford): S Reynolds; A Page, C Goss, J Carr; D Finnegan, P McGinnity, R Finnegan; P Keenan, R Carroll; M Farrelly, M Brennan, J O’Brien; A Hoey, M Stanfield, JP Rooney

Smarmore

Lennon is still not fully fit I think. I'm a bit dissapointed with that lineup to be honest. Understandable that McEneaney wants to go with the same team that won last time out. However they only really won it in the second half. Carroll has been dissapointing and I know for a fact he's been getting a lot of physio work done over the last few weeks. I would have started Farrelly in midfield because he was very influential when he dropped back the last day. Clarke is out of favour it appears and was dissapointing in the first 2 games. He was taken off in the first half of the second game. To be honest the full forward line was excellent for Louth the last day so there's no need to change things there. Nicky McDonnell should have been put in Farrellys position and Carroll should have been dropped to accomodate Farrelly in midfield. If things go bad on Sunday expect this switch to be made by half-time. I don't think McEneaney actually knows what his best team is yet which is a bit worrying. He's been chopping and changing a lot already.

blackbelt

Smarmore,it does say a lot about this company that they have a tendency to hire people that can do more than one thing at a time.So thanks for that.:D

Secondly,whats with the deranged lunatic comment?I'm perfectly sane thank you very much.I think you are the one who is a lunatic for throwing a hissy fit just for stating my opinion which is valid.You wouldn't know a valid point if it jumped up and bit you in the @$$.

You talk about Louth-Laois which has not been validated yet and yet you "try" to ridicule me for my opinion and points.You are right about one thing though,its better you ignore my posts and don't reply because I'm mopping the floor with you.You are even stupid enough to put yourself in a position whereby if Louth lose,yourself and Mise Me Fein will be the hot topic of ridicule on here.Even another Louth man has spoken out against you.It shows that not every Louth man is ignorant and childish on here.You also put yourself in a position where you could have been banned.

I won't waste my time on you anymore,I've said my piece.I'll do what I've always come here to do and thats talk about football.

A lot of people don't see the point that Wexford know a bit more about the current Louth team than the Louth team do about Wexford.I think this has neutralised or taken a chunk out of the advantage buffer that Louth have over Wexford.

Smarmore

Oooh a multitasker. You're going straight to the top my son Is that record finally over? That was very tiresome and repetitive. Thanks be to God. Amen.

Go on the Wee County!!!!

Anyway, cruiserweight, those odds look interesting. Donegal v Tyrone should be relatively low-scoring but the Meath-Dublin game could well produce a lot of scores and it's 15-8. 14 a piece the last time so at 13-8 I definitely wouldn't put the house on it!! JP Rooney for either first or last goalscorer 13-2. He's been very prolific in front of goal over the years. Matties 9-2 to do the same. They seem to have more bets for the other games. I'd like to see odds for them to get a goal in 70 minutes.

blackbelt

I'm very happy where I am thanks Smarmore:D ...no need to go any further.I've had the experience of meeting GAA officials and talking turkey.

My company/organisation is very very involved with the GAA and plays a part for the new breed of players coming through.....the person who guesses it gets a free pint.:D

slumped

I predict another draw! - and just realised that I wasted my 1000th post on that prediction!

blackbelt

Seen as how nobody can answer,I'll take that pint....in the corpo