Silencer

peter-pantslez

hey just wondering what the craic is with silencers over here im looking to get one for the old lamping foxes. do you need a separate licence for them and if you get one fitted does the performance of the rifle get screwed up?

cheers for the help

Kramer

You technically need a letter from your local super to own/use a moderator.

Performance shouldn't be affected but POI will change when fitted.

peter-pantslez

and how do i go about this letter cause i dont really wanna go to the fire arms sgt he is a bollox. what conditions do you need to use one?

sidneyreilly

no conditions as such. Give him a letter and tell him you need it to 1. protect your own hearing and 2. prevent scaring livestock whilst controling vermin.

stevoman

its just a matter of going into your dealer and buying one. i didnt need a letter, i think technically silencers are illegal, but i think you can just purchase them if you call them a suppreser

civdef

The above post is a clear lesson in why you should take everything you see on a web forum with a serious dose of salt. It is both incorrect and illegal, following that course of action could get you in a lot of trouble.

Vegeta

stevoman wrote:

its just a matter of going into your dealer and buying one. i didnt need a letter, i think technically silencers are illegal, but i think you can just purchase them if you call them a suppreser

yup you can purchase one but I am afraid to tell you, that you are breaking the law and running the risk of the local garda making an example of you.

Be careful with it

sidneyreilly

sidneyreilly wrote:

no conditions as such. Give him a letter and tell him you need it to 1. protect your own hearing and 2. prevent scaring livestock whilst controling vermin.

Sorry. should have added "in order to get authorisation"

peter-pantslez

thanks for that guys if i get one it will defo be under the right conditions and legally

bullets

I got a letter from my Shooting Club saying they had no issues with
me using a moderator on my rifle for health and safety purposes.

I sent a letter requesting a letter of permission to my Local FO a few weeks
ago with the ranges letter and giving my reasons for needing one.
I also used the word moderator and explained that it did not silence but
meerly reduced the sound to an acceptable level. In the case of the .17HMR
I reckon it reduces it to about the sound of a .22 through
different mods may vary. I also stated in my letter that I did
not require a licence for one but wanted to get permission from
the local station or Super.

Never heard back from them. I also tried ringing the station and could
not get through most of the time and I also left messages.
But not a Peep frrom them.

I'm in no rush its just annoying that on a windy day where I may not
want to fire at 100m due to the wind knocking the 17 about the guys
in Midlands dont want me fireing at the 50m un-moderated as
it so bloody noisey.

Got two weeks off work coming up so may decide to use that to
park my backside at the station and refuse to leave tactic!!!

~B

peter-pantslez

i get simmilar im in a shooting club and all they ahve is 50 m target for the rifle everyone else fires 22lr and i come in with the 22 hornet and put them all off their game im not very popular there:D

tikkamark

Do you have to go near the local station to apply or can you just send a letter to the superintendant asking for permission is it really that simple?

peter-pantslez

il try sending a letter to him cause the FA sgt is a bollox tried everything to stop me getting the rifle!!!:mad: :mad:

bullets

Will let ye know how I get on whenever I get a response.
I am guessing I will get some cock and bull story about the
super does not issue permission for them etc etc so I got to
prepare myself to be patient.

When I "borrowed" a moderator from one of the lads here (A SAK)
it was utter bliss!!! It did change the point of impact on my rifle
and it made everything goto the right. And when I took the Mod off
everything went back by the same amount to the left!!! So Pretty cool.
Rifle was still Loud but not deafning.

Quite a lot of the time I goto the range the buddy will want to fire
at 50m with his .22 so when I am there with the HMR its horrible
as they only allow me to fire if nobody else is about or stick me in a corner
with barriers about me (box me in!) Last time I had to goto the 100m to
fire at the 50m as they are side by side but there is a door that blocks
a lot of the sound between the 100m and the 50m.

I dont have a problem with the sound much but its the effect that
it causes at the range and the restrictions that it caused which annoys me.
(would not swap the 17 for 22 though as I love it!!!)

~B

peter-pantslez

bullets we are like distant twins i have the exact same problem can only fire when none of the target shooters are there with there target rifles its crap is the 17 that loud the hornet must be about 10 times louder than the 22lr but i wounldnt change it its a proper rifle (rim fire):D

bullets

Got a Letter today from my super saying that in order to process
my application for a moderator that he would need specific details
of the moderator for their records.

This sounds positive as at least they gave me a written reply!
to work with.

Only thing..what details can I give them other than the brand or make ????
Which I dont know yet as I dont know what dealer will be able to get
me what mod!

Its a step in the right direction though.
will give him a ring Monday to see what kind of
details they want.

~B

peter-pantslez

deadly let me know what he is looking for bullets,


what dealers around dublin can fit them?

peter-pantslez

and how much does it cost to get done?

bullets

peter-pantslez wrote:

and how much does it cost to get done?

My Barrel is factory threaded so its just a matter of screwing the mod on!
For a Parker Hale which is ok for a .22 but useless for a .17 the local
dealer is telling me about 50 Euro for the mod itself.

Dunno what brands are available to me for the HMR other than SAK or
the T8 which is overkill and over expensive.

~B

peter-pantslez

cheers bulletts not as bad as i thought where is that dealer?

bullets

Limerick, But most dealers do the el cheapo Parker Hales.
The ones I am talking about are the tiny tiny almost like a cigar tube type ones.
(I think there may be other versions that are bigger but
I have not seen them) Duuno if they are any good or not as the mods
I have seen fitted on the range appear to look bigger.

~B

Clare gunner

O Halloran in Tip does the SAK/Vaime units.

Trojan911

bullets wrote:

The ones I am talking about are the tiny tiny almost like a cigar tube type ones.

I got one for about €30 in Jeffers in Bandon. They are called Sound Byters, I think from memory. A lot lighter & shorter than the Parker Hales as they are plastic. Very happy with mine...

peter-pantslez wrote:

and how much does it cost to get done?

My previous .22 was not threaded and cost me €80 to have it threaded.

Hope that helps...


TJ911...

peter-pantslez

yeah trojan thats great thought it would be a lot more than that cheers for the help

maglite

emal the amnifactures and ask for a guide in db reduction levels if you can get a comparision going it will show you have researched the topic

here is an extract from my letter

I wish to apply for permission to fit a sound moderator to my rifle. I am a member of the X Rifle Club. I have recently upgraded my rifle to a Cz (Brno). The primary reason for the upgrade was the improved accuracy offered by this riffle. The change has also afforded me the opportunity to fit a sound moderator as this rifle is designed to accept one. I regularly practice and am aware that the sound produced from a shot of a .22 rifle can be in the range of 130-140db. Repeated exposure to this level of noise and the manner in which it is produced from a rifle may have a severe detrimental effect on my hearing. Fitting of a sound moderator will reduce the sound signature by up to 40-45db.

From a performance perspective attaching a sound moderator can also offer a slight increase in accuracy due to reduced barrel vibration, reduced recoil, and a stiffening of the barrel. I would like to exploit this benefit.

also you could give a guide to what the different db levels are , jet, traffic, shouting, etc
and explain that it is far more detrimental to have loud repeadted bursts of noise than a high sustained volume

Umiq88

SAK mods are the way to go paid 50 for mine not sure where i got it wont get anything better until you start paying double that.

peter-pantslez

cheers mag lite thats brilliant thats helped me out alot!

appreciate it!:)

Umiq88

Wait a sec is this for the hornett?? if it is its a completely different ball game it will take something bigger to silence well moderate as you'll always have the crack.

The SAK will take away some of it but i wouldnt get anything smaller want to be looking at reflex, pes, and ase utra mods to get any sort of noticable reduction

Vegeta

be careful lads a SAK mod is not designed for center fire ammo, think it goes up to .22wmr but thats it. putting it on a centerfire could be a recipe for disaster and just plain dangerous