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Enemy Territory: Quake Wars - Beta Is Coming
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17-06-2007 3:58am#1
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I got a subscription for the STALKER beta. It was like €40 - and to be honest it was quite well spent. Great for the fast patch downloads and the like.Dooom wrote:Yeah I know, I'm just psyching myself up for it. Plus I'm not a subscriber, just a plain old free account holder.
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Oh dear I have been reading a lot of concerned posts on other forums i.e regarding the gamplay being to fast I posted an example below of a well written review.
Review thaken from enemyterritory.com
The topic is about the best way I can use to describe this game. I briefly played W:ET. BF2, Tribes, Planetside, y'know, lots of these team-based games of various speeds. I'm not really a big fan of fast-paced games, because fast-paced to me simply means 'dumbed-down' and 'easy development costs', but I won't say the game sucks just because of its pacing. I'll say I don't like it BECAUSE of it, but let's talk the actual game here.
I am, however, going to rip on its execution of speed.
Playing for hours yesterday, I can't help but feel that the entire game is incredibly chaotic with little sense about what is actually going on. I'll start this thread by saying that, even though everyone says "THIS GAME ISN'T BF2", you MUST keep in mind that easily over half the game's concepts feel like they're lifted DIRECTLY from the game. You may not like the comparisons, but just because you don't like it doesn't make it untrue.
The first thing I noticed was that my interface was ridiculously over-cluttered. I still have almost no idea what is going on, and where. Gamespeed moves SO fast that little features like Fireteams are simply worthless. At any given time I have between twenty and thirty little icons on my screen, and usually knowing where to go is just following the horde of other players. All in all, while I could get used to the hundreds of little icons cluttering my view, most of them I don't even really want to see.
I grabbed an empty server and familiarized myself with the controls and weapons. In my first game, I thought I'd play it safe and grabbed an anti-tank class. In BF2, the game pace is such that as an anti-tank, people will be reporting where there are vehicles, and you can generally move around to some degree and find targets. In this game, I believe I shot a single tank before the endless chatter of assault rifle fire owned me. It's hard to tell where to go, where you're needed, and if you're even needed at all. After a few minutes of playing this class, and realizing how potent other anti-vehicle weaponry is, I see very little reason to risk using this class, as unless the target vehicle is heavily damaged or lightly armored to begin with, the odds of you dying before making a kill are stacked VASTLY against you.
Deployables are nifty. I liked them when I was fooling around myself. I thought I'd break out one and give it a shot, a howitzer. After a few shots I realized that the game moves so fast that these indirect fire weapons are nigh-worthless. Unless we're going back to W:ET days where the only purpose artillery serves is to spawncamp, what good is this stuff? The shots fire so slowly that for whatever reason you wanted to shoot it in the first place is long since past. If they're overrunning your base, by the time the first shell hits, either the base is going to be captured, or they're going to be dead and your teammates are swarming around the area again.
Finally, sniper rifles. Why the hell, in this day and age, do we have sniper rifles? What use do they serve? Let me explain how sniper rifles work in gaming. The people who camp safely far away and get free kills without much work and skill like them. The people who get instagibbed by them feel cheated. They are detrimental to gameplay, and they make it play like ass. Whose bright idea was it to attract the 8 year old Halo crowd by making Weapons of Camp Destruction? The latest-greatest tactic is to use sniper rifles in close-range engagements as well, making many parts in the sewers "Walk into room, instantly die". The only people who would miss a sniper rifle are the ones who are playing for kills anyway, and do we really care if those kids are playing in the first place?
At its very core, the game feels like W:ET. However, once you start piling on layers - vehicles, loads and loads of 'alternative' weaponry, the game begins to simply resemble BF2, played at 2x speed, with a few objectives scattered around. BF2 wasn't really a heavily team-based game, and in ET:QW, it feels the same way. The only reason you have objectives seems to be to 'force' teamwork, which isn't REAL TEAMWORK. The weaponry, types of classes, utilities, and the like that you have access to almost make the game feel like it was originally supposed to be slower-paced and more cerebral instead of simple twitch-action run-and-gun. Maybe they decided that it was too hard to create a good team-based game? Maybe they decided it was cheaper to make 'yet-another-fast-paced-fragathon-like-every-other-shooter-released-since-2001'.
Hopefully some of the game's technical glitches get ironed out, such as the odd 'stuttering' that was, surprisingly, present in BF games as well. Most vehicles handle like crap, and the Strogg hover tank drives exactly how you wouldn't think a hover tank would drive like. I still have no idea why the hell my attempts to drive it end up with me running into walls like a drunk, but I am.
In the end, I'll say it's a decent game. I don't like it for many reasons, the primary one being that while I was expecting a fast-paced game, since they're the easiest way to attract the mouth-breathing 'mainstream' crowd, the game feels like it's TOO fast for what it was trying to do. I'll continue playing to see if it grows on me, but so far, I'm not too terribly impressed.0 -
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I dont get thier complaint, Wolf ET is still one of the most fast paced hectic full on games ive played outside of quake 3. Fireteams are useless in wolf ET too..in fact in my 3 years with wolf, i still dont even know what they do
and artillery only good for spawncamping in wolf et? Did this guy even PLAY et?? Arty is all over the map in that game, you just point binocs and fire, youre guaranteed kills0 -
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Auvers wrote:Oh dear I have been reading a lot of concerned posts on other forums i.e regarding the gamplay being to fast I posted an example below of a well written review.
Review thaken from enemyterritory.com
The topic is about the best way I can use to describe this game. I briefly played W:ET. BF2, Tribes, Planetside, y'know, lots of these team-based games of various speeds. I'm not really a big fan of fast-paced games, because fast-paced to me simply means 'dumbed-down' and 'easy development costs', but I won't say the game sucks just because of its pacing. I'll say I don't like it BECAUSE of it, but let's talk the actual game here...
This review, certainly the latter half, smacks of someone who isn't very adapt at playing such games, got killed a lot, and then got pissed off. I hope...0 -
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$15 for 3 months, so i said what the hell
Bought the subscriber thing there 2 mins ago
Downloadin as we speak, :rolleyes:
Also...coincidentally i had taken tomorrow and monday and tuesday off...so ive a 5 day weekend to test it out :cool:
Hope its good
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