Morrowind or Oblivion? Poll

sock.rocker*

I think Morrowind is much better having put bout 600 hours into it but bored of oblivion after like 40. the ability to click on the map for where u want to go killed it in my opinion...

my vote: morrowind

Vegeta

I'd have to agree

AlmightyCushion

I haven't played morrowwind but if you put in 600 hours and aren't bored with it, well it must be good. I've put in a bout 200 hours and I am bored silly with it. Even the new expansion - the shivering isles - I haven't finished because I just couldn't be arsed.

Vegeta

morrowind is better because of a few fundamental differences.

I love the oblivion world, look and feel but morrowind wins because of lack of scaling enemies, had to walk and discover places by yourself etc

Tar.Aldarion

Morrowind is better, due to the enemies thing. Every battle does not need to be an epic.

sock.rocker*

is the oblivion world bigger? cause it didnt feel like it.. when ya click on a map to go somewhere in oblivion and dont have to worry about walking, silt strider or mages guild or divine intervention etc. it seems linear to do main quest. i remember it used to be so difficult to get to some camp in the north west, where boat nd then going across mountains was fastest way? its been years but that was cool.

in morrowind, i did so many dungeons and guild missions before finally finishing the daguth ur main quest but in oblivion, i rode past most ruins on my horse which jus takes away from the game instead of adding to it..

Zillah

I think I enjoyed Morrowind more but if I were to go back I'd probably laugh at how shitty it is.

The level scaling is only a problem for you stupid console players For PC users theres a half dozen excellent mods that provide different options, from ultra hardcore random monsters to a more subtle and intelligent scaling system.

Aside from that, Cyrodil is just beautiful.

sock.rocker* wrote:

the ability to click on the map for where u want to go killed it in my opinion...

Mod.

Vegeta wrote:

I love the oblivion world, look and feel but morrowind wins because of lack of scaling enemies, had to walk and discover places by yourself etc

Mod.

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Morrowind is better, due to the enemies thing. Every battle does not need to be an epic.

Mod.

sock.rocker* wrote:

cause it didnt feel like it.. when ya click on a map to go somewhere in oblivion and dont have to worry about walking, silt strider or mages guild or divine intervention etc.

Mod.


Not only have I seen lots of mods that address all of these problems specifically, there are a million more that add all sorts of wonderful things. Right now I'm playing the most gorgeous character I have ever seen. Her face, hair, eyes, body, clothes and equipment all came from mods. I love mods.

Vegeta

mods ftw

Zillah

Therefore:

Consoles ftl!!

Tar.Aldarion

Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'

Vegeta

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'

Yeah but as a console user I am boned here. So I preferred Morrowind from that view point

Tar.Aldarion

Yeah, but you are a console user. Who listens to you?

Vegeta

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Yeah, but you are a console user. Who listens to you?

"Once again Vegeta cant play with the big boys so runs off to weep in the corner"

Tar.Aldarion

Now I feel bad, or aroused, hard to tell.

Zillah

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Of course you can mod it to do anything. When sodbebody points out a fault in any game should I just go 'mod!!'

When its a game with such a massive amount of easily made mods like Oblivion, a game that was designed to be tailored to suit taste with such mods, then yes, yes you should.

Cadrach

Morrowind was so much more atmospheric, with a better storyline and much more character. I remember standing outside that wisewoman's yurt, at the edge of the Ashlands, listening to the sound of tins or something kind of rattling. A great atmosphere, in very hostile territory, and it made me realise how far from Balmora I had come. There was a greater sense of a journey.

My favourite town was that little village between Balmora and Vivec that you could only reach by foot. I didn't like travelling through the blighted areas, but it made the heart grow fonder towards the safe havens.

In my opinion, Morrowind > Daggerfall > Oblivion.

Tar.Aldarion

Zillah wrote:

When its a game with such a massive amount of easily made mods like Oblivion, a game that was designed to be tailored to suit taste with such mods, then yes, yes you should.

Nuh uh

Vegeta

Cadrach wrote:

Morrowind was so much more atmospheric, with a better storyline and much more character. I remember standing outside that wisewoman's yurt, at the edge of the Ashlands, listening to the sound of tins or something kind of rattling. A great atmosphere, in very hostile territory, and it made me realise how far from Balmora I had come. There was a greater sense of a journey.
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very well put

garrethg

Morrowind's rich lore dealt with the themes of nationalism, colonialism, imperialism, isolationism, cosmopolitanism, religious strife between competing creeds and sectarianism, traditionalism, modernity, slavery, speciesism, and the nature of godhood. Granted these dynamics weren’t always that well utilised in the storyline and side quests, but they were there and added greatly to my immersion in Vvardenfell.

In contrast Oblivion deals with the themes of... umm... well there’s dungeons and stuff and some demons who are evil because... well they just are. Its bland, bland, bland. Blander than listening to an Enya album dressed in a beige cardigan whilst eating porridge.

JunkieW

garrethg wrote:

Morrowind's rich lore dealt with the themes of nationalism, colonialism, imperialism, isolationism, cosmopolitanism, religious strife between competing creeds and sectarianism, traditionalism, modernity, slavery, speciesism, and the nature of godhood. Granted these dynamics weren’t always that well utilised in the storyline and side quests, but they were there and added greatly to my immersion in Vvardenfell.

In contrast Oblivion deals with the themes of... umm... well there’s dungeons and stuff and some demons who are evil because... well they just are. Its bland, bland, bland. Blander than listening to an Enya album dressed in a beige cardigan whilst eating porridge.

What he said

I just liked Morrowind better.

h8red

Morrowind was a much better game. I still put over 300 hrs into Oblivion. I would love if Oblivion had been everything from Morrowind with Oblivion's graphics and combat.

I've just started playing oblivion, having played morrowind to death
and I love the little bits like investing in stores (not that I can yet, maybe it doesnt turn out that cool?) or actually buying your own house (though yes, I got a mod for that in morrowind)
But though I use the click on map thing a lot, I think the original way of exploring with silt strider and walking was better
a pain sometimes, but better

I'm also finding everything in oblivion a lot more expensive and harder to make money, whereas morrowind being rich was a lot easier... maybe I just haven't found the secret at-cost scamp in oblivion yet...

but I like all the little npc things in oblivion like people going and talking to each other randomly and being called by title rather than "outlander" all the time

Zillah

bluewolf wrote:

and I love the little bits like investing in stores (not that I can yet, maybe it doesnt turn out that cool?)

Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

Thats fucking it.

Zillah

Zillah wrote:

Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

Thats fucking it.

Oh. that's less fun than I imagined.
Still, I like the idea of officially owning a house that isn't in the middle of nowhere...

AlmightyCushion

Zillah wrote:

Its crap. Pure crap. Lets say they can spend a total of 1200 on any given item. If you invest 500 they can now spend 1700 on any given item.

Thats fucking it.

Yeah I thought it would be really cool but then I finally leveled up my mechantile. I was delighted, tried it and realised what a let down it was.

@Bluewolf - Level up you alchemy. This skill can literally make you a millionaire. That's how I made so much money. Every time you fond an ingredient take it and just mix them together and sell off the potions. You can even buy the ingredients from one of the shops and sell the potion you make from it for more than you paod for the two ingredients. It's easy to level up as well.

AlmightyCushion

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Yeah I thought it would be really cool but then I finally leveled up my mechantile. I was delighted, tried it and realised what a let down it was.

@Bluewolf - Level up you alchemy. This skill can literally make you a millionaire. That's how I made so much money. Every time you fond an ingredient take it and just mix them together and sell off the potions. You can even buy the ingredients from one of the shops and sell the potion you make from it for more than you paod for the two ingredients. It's easy to level up as well.

I actually was big into alchemy in morrowind, my telvanni house is full of containers of ingredients at this stage
less so in oblivion, but I might get into it once I'm properly used to the game
atm I have about 6k, so it's a start
soul trap + sell was how I usually made money
although I haven't managed to find the thieves guild yet, I don't know how incompetant that makes me
so stealing everything that's not nailed down isn't working yet...

AlmightyCushion

To get into the thieves guild you have to be put in jail if I remember correctly.

AlmightyCushion

AlmightyCushion wrote:

To get into the thieves guild you have to be put in jail if I remember correctly.

Just googled it, that's one of the ways,
or you can find that "wanted: gray fox" poster and talk to waterfront people
excellent!

AlmightyCushion

bluewolf wrote:

Just googled it, that's one of the ways,
or you can find that "wanted: gray fox" poster and talk to waterfront people
excellent!

Hmm I didn't know that. I ended up killing some woman who helped me in a fight out in the world map to get all the cool stuff she had. It turns out she was someone high up and I had to spend 10 days in jail. That sucked.

AlmightyCushion

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Hmm I didn't know that. I ended up killing some woman who helped me in a fight out in the world map to get all the cool stuff she had. It turns out she was someone high up and I had to spend 10 days in jail. That sucked.

do you lose skill points like in morrowind?

AlmightyCushion

bluewolf wrote:

do you lose skill points like in morrowind?

Yep. It was painful to watch. I wasn't very far in and all the effort I had out into leveling up was gone. It got me into the dark brotherhood though.