Psilocybin mushrooms....are they still illegal?

modalcommand

Legal highs have to be the worst things ever. They are legal because nobody does them enough for the authorities to take notice. Stay safe, stay illegal.

Siogfinsceal

they are legal. I know w few lads who got a book on mushrooms, went out the country side searched for the right ones and picked their own. God knows what they ended up eating! They made tea out of it and one of them thought he was an eagle so it must have hit the spot

psilocybe

Degsy wrote:

Anybody ever try nutmeg?Mix a tablespoon with some mashed up bannana and swallow it(tastes dire btw),you'll trip one hour later!

Several constituents of nutmeg are hepatoxic, it should not be recommended for recreational use. Not much fun anyway.

Legal highs have to be the worst things ever. They are legal because nobody does them enough for the authorities to take notice.

There are plenty of worthwhile drugs which happen to be uncontrolled.
More than anything this is because governments are less efficent at banning them than you would think.
Substances should be judged on their effects and not their legality.
Legal=/=bad, although I agree that alot of the crap the headshops are peddling (piperizines etc.) is muck.
Look into San Pedro, Kratom, Kanna etc.
Remeber both LSD and MDMA were legal a few decades ago...

amazingemmet

J.S. Pill wrote:

By the way I strongly reccommend you all stay clear of Baby rosewood seeds. They're available in most headshops and supposedly mimic the effects of LSD. I felt really really sick after taking these. The effects were similar to LSD alright but only the terrifying parts! I felt really tired but when I went to put my head down a stream of horrible visions went through my head. I just had to ride it out for a while and was fine after an hour or two. Friend of mine got violently sick and had to go to bed at 9pm...poor petal. Seriously, not worth it.

On the Hbwr front the trick to avoid the sickness is to scrape off the fuzzy outercoating then give them a small torching to remove the rest of it, get it all off and you'll have a good one with em. Women should avoid them especially around that time of the month due to them being a uterine convulsent(sp?)

HammerHeadGym

Degsy wrote:

Can you not just drink yourself down off them?

It's possible, but you'll really wish you hadn't. I used to work in a headstore and the law was if you drink you'll pay in hangover.

Supposedly, you get very dehydrated by the following morning. Not sure how it works exactly, but have heard literally hundreds if not thoushands of anecdotal stories as evidence.

Seraphina

Tha Gopher wrote:

Try BZP, theyre totally legal.

If you are prepared to endure chronic paranoia to the point you are convinced your similarly out of it friend will kill you, rapid back and forth fluctuations in body temperature, your mickey shrivelling up to the size of a malteser, an inabillity to piss, a near total loss of ability to walk easily, walls infront of you swimming at you, no proper sleep for 3 days and a general comedown in your room which is straight out of Trainspotting, go on ahead.

Honestly, all this nazi government sh1te, some of the legal stuff is far more dangerous than the currently illegal.

jesus thats pretty bad.
i've taken legal highs numerous times and never had bad paranoia or any of that ****e. i've found sleeping to be slightly more difficult than after pills, but not really that much worse, and i can usually sleep in any situations.

So Glad

I think I'll wait a month or two and pick my own mushrooms. I'll be sure to study as much about liberty caps as I can because I don't know any botanists or people like that who'd show a hippy what mushrooms make him hallucinate :P

alphanine

One piece of advice, do not take mushrooms or similar drugs if you have depression and/or are taking anti-depressents. My friend while in Amsterdam took philosophers stones and it was the worst 4 or so hours in our lives for reasons I won't go into. I was unaware of his condition and it was a particularly sound police officer who pointed this out to us!

DarkJager

Have to say try BZP. Took them last weekend and was very suprised to find they're actually stronger than what they are imitating (ecstasy). Comedown is some serious stuff though, so be prepared for a complete head **** in the last few hours. No to mention you'll still be awake the next day.

DublinWriter

alphanine wrote:

I was unaware of his condition and it was a particularly sound police officer who pointed this out to us!

The Dutch police are the soundest. A few of us went up to Amsterdam when I was working in Brussels. One of the lads got spectactularly sick in front of a terrace cafe where people were eating. A couple of Dutch coppers came by and I said "Sorry, he's Belgian" to which they replied "That's ok so!" and walked off.

Steak

zabbo wrote:

Just don't give the mescaline to your kitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKtapXvW7wE

does nobody else find this extremely disturbing?

modalcommand

I have to say of all the videos on the interet that one of the cat is one of the hardest to stomach. Having a massive amount of acid or whatever would be such a horrible experience for an animal. As bad as torture really.

philstar

what sick f&*k would do that??

rubadub

modalcommand wrote:

Legal highs have to be the worst things ever. They are legal because nobody does them enough for the authorities to take notice. Stay safe, stay illegal.

Alcohol is a legal high that enough people do for the authorities to take notice. But it is too engrained in society now to consider banning and is a nice taxable controllable drug. I thought it quite funny when Bertie was saying he never touched cannabis after asked about Cowen, yet when asked if he enjoyed pints he said "oh yes, plenty of those", blasé, almost comical-presumably inferring they are benign compared to nasty illegal stuff.

Illegalistation of drugs is only a very recent occurance in the actual timeline of their usage. Salvia is being made illegal in many countries now. It costs a lot to bring in such laws, and salvia is not a "party drug", so does not affect tax losses, like mdma or cannabis might (alcohol users turning to e or cannabis).

Mushroom grow kits are now being sold in town, I have no problem with this, I did have issues with fresh mushrooms being sold. I like the UK setup where it is basically legal to grow your own cannabis but illegal to sell or buy, cutting out the dealer element. It was too easy for ignorant people to walk in and just pick up shrooms with the notion "if its legal it must be crap/weak". They put no thought into it, no respect for them, a "cheap buzz". If you are going to start growing them you will probably know enough about dose, set, setting etc before you even have grown a single one.

Salvia is the same, people have no respect for it since it is legal and bunched along with other "herb mixes" that do nothing. Many people would consider it to be the most extreme psychedelic ever discovered, one experienced experimenter/psychonaut who wrote a few books on various substances had them rated 1-10, I think LSD was 8, mushrooms might be 7, but he revised the book after trying salvia, his rating -infinite....

HammerHeadGym

Sofaspud wrote:

...my friend and Brian Blessed...

was Brian Blessed really there or was that part of your trip?

Sofaspud

HammerHeadGym wrote:

was Brian Blessed really there or was that part of your trip?

We were watching Blackadder at the time.

Brian Blessed is a scary, scary man.

g5fd6ow0hseima

rubadub wrote: »

Alcohol is a legal high that enough people do for the authorities to take notice. But it is too engrained in society now to consider banning and is a nice taxable controllable drug.

I feel cannabis is fairly engrained in Irish society, its surprising to find out how many people smoke the stuff here in Ireland.

I will say that our laws regarding the drug are not as harsh as other countries, but a downgrading and the taking of a leaf out of the book of the Western Australian government wouldnt go astray.

Besides, cannabis is the most widespread drug in Ireland. So if its laws were laxed a bit, wouldnt criminals ultimately suffer, as opposed to the population, who will always have access to it.

Dennis the Stone

Had Philosopher's Stone the other night for the second time.. Beautiful.. just beautiful. Spent an hour or two laughing at Office Space on DVD while outside the front door I could hear the shouting and knocking over of bins by the pissed up muppets in their culchie shirts and gelled hair. Awoke this morning to a beautiful display of Abrakebabra and vomit outside on the street. Typical :mad:

g5fd6ow0hseima

Tago Mago wrote: »

Had Philosopher's Stone the other night for the second time.. Beautiful.. just beautiful. Spent an hour or two laughing at Office Space on DVD while outside the front door I could hear the shouting and knocking over of bins by the pissed up muppets in their culchie shirts and gelled hair. Awoke this morning to a beautiful display of Abrakebabra and vomit outside on the street. Typical :mad:

whilst listening to Can?

AnonoBoy

And we're bringing this thread back from the dead, why exactly?

g5fd6ow0hseima

Im at fault. Thought there might have been a mini-discussion about the Netherlands and their outlawing, but I was wrong.

Apologies all