If NZ could pick a player from Ireland...

RuggieBear · 06-07-2007 10:28am

daveirl wrote:

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While i totally agree with that i'd still have had him ahead of Clarke...no?:)

quagmire69 · 06-07-2007 11:01am

to do with the 2nd row situation. I think that a good lineout is just as much to do with good communication, clever lifters and a good hooker than having good 2nd rows. easterby seems to be the main organiser of the linout for irl, not POC.

New zealand lineouts aren't great cause oliver aint a very good thrower. Also i doubt that it is coached as well in the new zealand camp. shipping POC in2 the new zealand team would not cure their lineout situation IMO.

still think POC is a fantastic player for the record. better than williams but not lightyears ahead.

Pinetree, darcy would surely get in2 the nz startin 15? who's better?

marco_polo · 06-07-2007 12:06pm

Definately BOD and POC. D'Arcy and Flannery would also have pretty strong claims for starting places and would certainly be in the matchday 22.

While any of our backrow are a pretty good match for new Zealand you couldn't really say any of them would be an improvement on the current AB players especially give their prefered style of rugby. No to both wingers, FB, SH, DOC, props for sure. Perhaps ROG as cover for Carter.

My 2c anyway.

Sangre · 06-07-2007 12:13pm

I've yet to see POC pull a 60m spiral kick out of the bag though.....

marco_polo · 06-07-2007 1:12pm

Sangre wrote:

I've yet to see POC pull a 60m spiral kick out of the bag though.....

Very nice one alright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU78OEbFf5s&mode=related&search=

POC would have no bother getting a 60m kick.

Question is which direction would it head in? :eek:

Linford · 06-07-2007 2:28pm

marco_polo wrote:

...Flannery would also have pretty strong claims for starting places and would certainly be in the matchday 22.

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I like Flannery and think he is Ireland's best hooker, but there is no way that he would have any chance of making the NZ 22 if Anton Oliver and Keven Mealamu are healthy.

06-07-2007 2:37pm

Sangre wrote:

I've yet to see POC pull a 60m spiral kick out of the bag though.....

You failed to mention that everytime he has tried that since, its gone out on the full or backwards.

marco_polo · 06-07-2007 5:13pm

Linford wrote:

I like Flannery and think he is Ireland's best hooker, but there is no way that he would have any chance of making the NZ 22 if Anton Oliver and Keven Mealamu are healthy.

Both mentioned are excellent players and having reconsidered I'd defiantely give you Mealamu at #1, however I not convinced that that Oliver is the greatest dart thrower in the world so I'd have Jerry on the bench on that basis.
If the all black have a weakness it is at lineout time *Clutches straw tightly*.

Pinetree Boy · 08-07-2007 11:07pm

Pinetree, darcy would surely get in2 the nz startin 15? who's better?[/QUOTE]

He would certainly be in the 22 but i9f I am only allowed one player it still has to be BOD.

I agree with dave it is great to have tight forwards who can pass, run and kick but first they have to be able to secure the pill. For me POC is a better lineout forward than Williams. His problems against us when on the Lions tour came down to playing in an overall weaker pack.