Clocked Car alert

testicle

Just like to draw your attention to this car on carzone

http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=636114

Apparently, a 6 speed 1.9TDi 130bhp 4motion Passat with 72k, or is it...

It was imported on the 5th of June last year and it's old registration was DE03 CLF (cartell.ie)

So I ran a HPI check on it.

Turns out, that on 07 June 2006, it was recorded as having 107201 on the clock. See below.

Date recordedRecorded by
Mileage reading
Total
17-Oct-2003
Franchised Dealer
23,786
23,786

28-May-2004
Franchised Dealer
46,531
46,531

28-May-2004
Trade Association
46,537
46,537

12-Jan-2005
Trade Association
65,585
65,585

07-Feb-2005
Franchised Dealer
68,233
68,233

14-Feb-2005
Trade Association
68,837
68,837

30-Apr-2005
Trade Association
76,605
76,605

30-Sep-2005
Franchised Dealer
89,064
89,064

13-Mar-2006
Franchised Dealer
102,839
102,839

07-Jun-2006
BVRLA
107,201
107,201

But also interestingly, this is also apparently a

PASSAT S TDI, 5 Speed Manual Diesel

and not a 6 speed 4motion one as advertised. So is it a clone, as well as being clocked!?!

dodgyme

So what can be done about it? Can you contact anyone on this, like the papers?

Henry Ford III

The dealer could be in trouble over this. Are you going to report it?

digitally-yours

Also says "650MILES ON 1 TANK AMAZING CAR!!!!!!!!!"

I hope he is reported !

JHMEG

Wow. Nice work. Hope some poor sucker doesn't end up buying it. Can the real mileage be recorded on cartell.ie?

Is it my imagination or do VW and Audi diesels seem to be the most common targets for clocking? Are they especially easy to clock?

declanoneill

The department of consumer affairs would be very interested in this should anyone decide to report it.

Henry Ford III

Cartell is a waste of space. It gives no mileage validation, nor guarantee against duff info.

HPI does both and is essential for a UK sourced car.

silver campaign

Where do you go to get a HPI check done.
I wouldn't say VW Audi ae easier to clock than other cars.
It's probably the fact that more of these are being brought into the country as the demand for them is so high.

Henry Ford III

www.hpicheck.com

rubyred

I have a record of an HPI check done of my car when I bought it but it doesn't have records of the mileage. It also has "no previous owners" - which means that from April 2003 till November 2006 (when I bought it) no one had ever owned it. Bit strange????

testicle

rubyred wrote:

I have a record of an HPI check done of my car when I bought it but it doesn't have records of the mileage. It also has "no previous owners" - which means that from April 2003 till November 2006 (when I bought it) no one had ever owned it. Bit strange????

Yes, it had no previous owners, prior to the person that owned it when it was exported.

jonno23

I went to view this car in May, it had 12,000 miles ("original mileage") at the time, plus MOT cert from last year stating that the mileage was 7,600 miles:

http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=551263

I was suspicious as all the history & MOT were hand written; every wheel had a different brand of tyre; there were different wheel nuts on one wheel. There was overspray on rear bumper. A week later the advert was updated, mileage went up to 40K miles... !!

rubyred

testicle wrote:

Yes, it had no previous owners, prior to the person that owned it when it was exported.

I see - so garages arent' counted as owners. So the person who orignally bought it sold it to a garage in england, who sold it to the garage in Ireland, who sold it to me. I get it. Only 1 owner in England and I'm the first owner in Ireland.

gbh

Personally I wouldn't go near any car that was imported from England...

Gatster

Personally I wouldn't go near any car that was imported from England...

Obviously - All Irish cars are obviously 100% genuine :rolleyes:

Great spot by the OP, can't actually envisage where this place is in Swords though.

Owen

gbh wrote:

Personally I wouldn't go near any car that was imported from England...

I would, and have. If the history is good, and the underneath of the car hasn't been ravaged by road salt, most UK cars are in excellent condition, and usually have a fantastic spec.

kikel

Gatster wrote:

can't actually envisage where this place is in Swords though.

I went to test drive a cherokee in that place last year. I didn't take the testdrive in the end because when i arrived a mechanic had went out to source a new battery for it. When he arrived back in the jeep the bonnet was half open. Weird for a car i was meant to be test driving. Turns out they had fitted a new battery alright. But it was miles to big for the vehicle. IMO these people don't give a dam.

At this stage i just walked away.

delly

Any chance that it could be in KM's in that report?

rebel.ranter

Lads I would not make a clear cut between UK cars being bad & Irish ones so much better.
In the UK it is far easier (& has been for a long time) to trace the history of a car.

I have been offered fake tax discs (€60), fake NCT (€50), car clocking services (€100), all this without even asking. In fact when the people in question offered they made out I was a fool to do it legitamately!!! And up until recently there was no way of knowing what was the real values. Even now the likes of cartell.ie will not have all the info.

In my mind once you do the research on a UK car you are actually better off with an import. Look how easy it was for the OP to discover this car's shady history.

siralfalot

ned78 wrote:

I would, and have. If the history is good, and the underneath of the car hasn't been ravaged by road salt, most UK cars are in excellent condition, and usually have a fantastic spec.

agree 100%, there is a far better range to choose from.

kikel

delly wrote:

Any chance that it could be in KM's in that report?

The UK still use miles. Don't they?

TedKelly

testicle wrote:

Just like to draw your attention to this car on carzone

http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=636114

Apparently, a 6 speed 1.9TDi 130bhp 4motion Passat with 72k, or is it...

It was imported on the 5th of June last year and it's old registration was DE03 CLF (cartell.ie)

So I ran a HPI check on it.

Turns out, that on 07 June 2006, it was recorded as having 107201 on the clock. See below.


But also interestingly, this is also apparently a and not a 6 speed 4motion one as advertised. So is it a clone, as well as being clocked!?!

I think I'm gonna be sick. I bought this car 4 weeks ago, what do I do?

testicle

delly wrote:

Any chance that it could be in KM's in that report?

The UK has never heard of Kilometers.

bazz26

In my opinion if your looking at UK imports then go over there and look at the cars yourself, do your homework, background checks and HPI yourself.

I personally would not buy from these guys over here selling UK imports. Too dodgy for my liking.

kc66

TedKelly wrote:

I think I'm gonna be sick. I bought this car 4 weeks ago, what do I do?

It was confirmed in stock today.

TedKelly

To th OP, how did you come across the original Uk registration?

yop

So is anyone going to report this twat, OP well spotted, what made you check it for HPI?

testicle

yop wrote:

So is anyone going to report this twat, OP well spotted, what made you check it for HPI?

I do it as standard for UK imports that I'm interested in.

As for where I got the original UK registration, the €25 check on cartell.ie

TedKelly

Surely with the reg ending with 3217, wouldn't that mean that the car was originally registered here in Ireland. I was sure that when you import a car from the UK, the numbering after the county letters is higher, a guess at above 100,000.

rebel.ranter

TedKelly wrote:

Surely with the reg ending with 3217, wouldn't that mean that the car was originally registered here in Ireland. I was sure that when you import a car from the UK, the numbering after the county letters is higher, a guess at above 100,000.

Post a picture of it.

Owen

TedKelly wrote:

Surely with the reg ending with 3217, wouldn't that mean that the car was originally registered here in Ireland. I was sure that when you import a car from the UK, the numbering after the county letters is higher, a guess at above 100,000.

Not at all. You get the next reg in the queue. So, if the registrations are at 05KK1234 at the moment, you import a car, then you get 05KK1235.