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  • #52
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Tim Robbins wrote:
    I think Boss or Reddan are both better and if given a few more caps would get some understanding with the Irish back row and 10 which would negate that advantage Stringer has.

    Personally I'd go:

    1. Boss
    2. Reddan
    3. Stringer


    I would flip your list upside down TBH.

    Ha it not occured to anyone else that perhaps Stringer has been hiding his break all these years so he can unleash it on the unsuspecting ABs in the last minute of the RWC final? :D

    Just like against Biaritz in the HEC final :cool:.


  • #53
    Tim Robbins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,011 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    kevmy wrote:
    Okay first off this is an irrelevant thread in the fact that Eddie will not drop Stringer for the World Cup, end of.
    However it is useful as after the WC we have to start planning for the future.
    At the moment our team is set up slightly different than most teams, this is in a way due to our lack of options, small playing base, cutting our cloth etc.
    We have two breaking centres essentially, with quick feet. Most teams usually have a bit of basher playing in centre but we haven't. Now we're lucky that we have O' Driscoll who is also a fabulous defender as well as a quick footed line breaker.
    No way - O'Driscoll and D'Arcy can crash ball just as well as any big defender. It takes 2 - 3players to bring either down and they always get over the gain line when they take a crash ball.
    How does this relate to Stringer, well it means there is less onus on an Irish SH to break than on a more traditional outfit. Now it would be nice if Stringer had the break but it's really not his thing. However I would disagree that ROG isn't able to break in the last couple of years this part of his game has really come on, look at his try against Leinster in the HEC semi last year and in this years 6N.
    His try against Leinster was because of a huge hole and he only had to beat Malcolm O'Kelly who he had aabout 3 yards on.
    He can rarely beat his opposite man, under normal circumstances.
    So what I'm really saying is that this team, setup as it is, plays to Stringers strengths rather than highlighting his weaknesses. Dropping a player in at this stage in such a crucial position would upset the balance of the team. I thought this happenned against France when the rest of the team weren't quite on the same wavelength as Boss as he's a very different style of player. Reddan would be more similar but is just too inexperienced to pin our hopes on in a competition we have been building towards for 4 years.
    France destroyed as the breakdown and Shaggy cannot play against a rush defense which was the system the french used that day. This is because he cannot use quick footwork to beat a full speed defender. Dricko would take a step and easily beat a rush defense.
    As for being too predictable, well every one knew what England were going to do in the last WC and they won the fecking thing. So IMO as long as you do it to a better level than everyone else then predictability is not fatal.
    Completly disagree. England had a huge amout of tactical options in that team. They ahd a good maul, a good scrum, a good lineout, good backs a very good defense. They also had loads of ball carriers, some superb broken field runners (Robinson, Lewsey at their peak) and a world class kicker.
    They were a superb team in all respects.


  • #54
    Tim Robbins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,011 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Sangre wrote:
    Teams can't just rush our centres and ignore the SH/OH. If they do they'll be penalised quickly with a winger on ROGs inside shoulder or a few chip and chases.
    It's not that the hole team rushes the centres, it's more about the defensive line of the oher team crowding the midfield and the 7 knowing to run to the midfield and not having to worry about the fringes.
    A rush defense is probably the worst defense to use against BOD and D'Arcy as there are too quick at stepping. A Rush defense works better against big centres, who tend to just run straight and take a crash ball.

    The reason is that the speed of the defender should be faster than the attacker and the defense should come off better in the collision and break down.

    This doesn't work well against Drico and Darcy because they can step off either foot to quickly and it is too hard if the defender is at full sped to readjust his line of running to make the hit.

    If I was coach playing against Ireland I would use and in and out drift defense and tell your 7 to keep aiming for the midfield.

    Go back to semi final Leinster Munster match - sure Kidney put Wallace marking the midfield for the hole match,a clever tactic which has been used in Munster for donkey years.


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