Arts at NUIM

Shane80

Ok , next year I’m doing the leaving cert . But I was wondering about if I done the arts course and done psychology in my first year . And got a very good grade would I be in with a chance of getting a place on the course for next year …. Even if I did not apply for the psychology course in the cao thing just the arts ??? Wound I be in with any chance

shane,

dilemma

Hey, i'm going to be doing Arts in September, hopefully with Psychology, Sociology and Anthropology. I think if you get in the top 15 of your class with Psychology you can drop the other two subjects and go on to a Psychology degree in second year... that's my understanding of it, i may be wrong...

petals

Shane80 wrote:

Ok , next year I’m doing the leaving cert . But I was wondering about if I done the arts course and done psychology in my first year . And got a very good grade would I be in with a chance of getting a place on the course for next year …. Even if I did not apply for the psychology course in the cao thing just the arts ??? Wound I be in with any chance

shane,

My housemate did that last year. He did Psychology, sociology and philosophy or something of the sort. He said you have to get in the top 30 marks in the exams to be allowed do single honours in second year and there was something like 120 in the class.

pisslips

Do a B.A single honours in Maths Physics, just for the sheer insanity of it.

FunkyChicken

Maths physics is a walk in the park compared to arts. Go for it. You only need a C3 in pass maths in the LC to understand it!

Zapp Brannigan

dilemma wrote:

Hey, i'm going to be doing Arts in September, hopefully with Psychology, Sociology and Anthropology. I think if you get in the top 15 of your class with Psychology you can drop the other two subjects and go on to a Psychology degree in second year... that's my understanding of it, i may be wrong...

God bless you, I hope you like reading. Alot.

Rozabeez

Aye, I was considering those three subjects too, but got the 3 combined would be a bit heavy, think I'd drop the Psychology and pick something like Medieval Irish and Celtic Studies or the like.

pisslips

FunkyChicken wrote:

Maths physics is a walk in the park compared to arts. Go for it. You only need a C3 in pass maths in the LC to understand it!

It is arts apparently, thats the insanity bit.

dilemma

Zapp Brannigan wrote:

God bless you, I hope you like reading. Alot.

That's the general reaction i've been getting. I do like reading but am ever so slightly worried... will see how it goes! Might end up completely chaging my mind between now and September...

Zapp Brannigan

I foolishly chose Anthro and English and I was swamped for the entire year. It's not fun, believe me. You have a few weeks to change your mind though, so go to every thing and see what suits you best!

dilemma

Yeah, one of the people who interviewed me gave me the same advice so that's probably what i'll do... I really want to do Psychology in 2nd year but I don't want to rely on getting in so I want to pick two subjects that i'd be happy to continue with. Not long now, eeek!

brianthebard

dilemma wrote:

That's the general reaction i've been getting. I do like reading but am ever so slightly worried... will see how it goes! Might end up completely chaging my mind between now and September...

Lolz for first year at least you'll do fine just turning up to lecturers and reading what you can. Don't go thinking that every book on the list must be memorised!

dilemma

Phew... Well we'll see how it goes! Not long now!

TouchingVirus

brianthebard wrote:

Lolz for first year at least you'll do fine just turning up to lecturers and reading what you can. Don't go thinking that every book on the list must be memorised!

That's certainly how you managed it alright

brianthebard

OMgz I'm found out!

Zapp Brannigan

Or find yourself a smart friend. God bless the smart people!

FunkyChicken

pisslips wrote:

It is arts apparently, thats the insanity bit.

I thought they had to drop it after second year no?

pisslips

No, I don't think so anyway.
Or you could do a B.A. double maths physic/maths which is the exact same as doing the Bsc. in theoretical physics and maths.

eamoss

Zapp Brannigan wrote:

Or find yourself a smart friend. God bless the smart people!

Yup thats what im doing

Lucas10101

Ignore the naivity, but what jobs can people get out of doing an Arts Degree, I'd say 80%+ do Teaching.....but is that it??

Rozabeez

My plan is to do sociology and anthro, then use it as the basis for community work or something. That's a few years off though.

Zapp Brannigan

Rozabeez wrote:

My plan is to do sociology and anthro, then use it as the basis for community work or something. That's a few years off though.

Get yourself in a good Tutor group for Anthro. That's where you do the real work so you want to have a good TA and workgroup. It's where I messed up, I forgot to sign up for a group and got lumped into one that sucked balls!

pisslips

Not a bad compromise.

brianthebard

Lucas10101 wrote:

Ignore the naivity, but what jobs can people get out of doing an Arts Degree, I'd say 80%+ do Teaching.....but is that it??

Well research and analytical skills are in high demand from a lot of companies, but I'd almost call a BA a stepping stone degree, it gives you a basis in one or two subjects, gives your those skills, allows you to add letters to the end of your name (seriously you never know what impresses employers) and lets you move onto a more advanced specialised postgrad.

Jr.Hero

ok, so i'm gonna be doing arts in Nuim this september, and i'm hoping to do computer science, math studies, and something like economics biology of geography as my third subject.

so really what i'm askin is info on math and comp science. is it really difficult. i done pass math for leaving cert and did very well in it, would i be capable of these subjects
i know they both require at least OB3 to get in.

any info about them would be great!

eamoss

Jr.Hero wrote:

ok, so i'm gonna be doing arts in Nuim this september, and i'm hoping to do computer science, math studies, and something like economics biology of geography as my third subject.

so really what i'm askin is info on math and comp science. is it really difficult. i done pass math for leaving cert and did very well in it, would i be capable of these subjects
i know they both require at least OB3 to get in.

any info about them would be great!

Well im a CSSE(Comp Sci & Soft Eng) and hopfully going into 2nd yr. They have changed the course this year. Last year I did 3 CS subjects along with the general science and arts students they where Databases(CS130), History of Computer Sci(CS154) & Computation(CS156). But this is what you are doing.

CS141 - looks like its a spilt from the stuff I did at the end of CS154 which is handy enough to do. Even if you are not good at it you will be in a group so just get someone who is good at it in your group.

CS142 - This is the same as CS156. Now I now find this easy but that is only because I did a more advanced module of this in the 2nd semester but I didnt at the time. But alot of people drop CS because of this module. It is hard but tbh if you work at it from the start you should be ok.

CS143 - Sounds like CS154 which is really easy I got 70% + in this module.

Coco88

petals wrote:

My housemate did that last year. He did Psychology, sociology and philosophy or something of the sort. He said you have to get in the top 30 marks in the exams to be allowed do single honours in second year and there was something like 120 in the class.

When we are on this subject ;
Does anyone know what may be the min result you may need to get to be in the top 30th and don’t say 100% would you think 75 would get you into the top 30th

Coco

Joe1919

It does appear from looking at results from other subject that about 10 -15% people get first class honours which is70% but I cant personally speak for psychology.

Incidently I would recommend that Arts students carefully study the bottom table of arts subjects (second & third year) on page 29 of prospectus & pick subjects in first year that can be followed through into second & third year. This will ensure that you have a choice of dropping your least favourite or weakest subject after first year. For this reason I personally steered clear of Biology, despite it been my strongest leaving cert subject (A1 High).Some subjects such as history & geog can be done as a single honours after first year. You will get a couple of weeks to make up your mind.

LeixlipRed

Jr.Hero wrote:

ok, so i'm gonna be doing arts in Nuim this september, and i'm hoping to do computer science, math studies, and something like economics biology of geography as my third subject.

so really what i'm askin is info on math and comp science. is it really difficult. i done pass math for leaving cert and did very well in it, would i be capable of these subjects
i know they both require at least OB3 to get in.

any info about them would be great!

Maths Studies in first year consists of a differential calculus course and a course on integral calculus. It's Honours Leaving Cert Standard in parts but it wouldn't be quite as difficult as the LC Honours paper. The modules are changing this year so the content and names of those courses might be slightly different. I haven't had a chance to look over the changes yet tbh. I would say that if you put a good bit of efort into the course you could easily do well in Maths Studies with a pass LC background. I did Maths Studies and a lot of the people in my class came from pass maths. Some of them got 1st Class Honours in their final degree in the subject so it's definitely doable as such

marie_85

Joe1919 wrote:

Incidently I would recommend that Arts students carefully study the bottom table of arts subjects (second & third year) on page 29 of prospectus & pick subjects in first year that can be followed through into second & third year. This will ensure that you have a choice of dropping your least favourite or weakest subject after first year. For this reason I personally steered clear of Biology, despite it been my strongest leaving cert subject (A1 High).Some subjects such as history & geog can be done as a single honours after first year. You will get a couple of weeks to make up your mind.

I'm not sure I get you. They change the timetables every year, so there's no combination of subjects you can do in first year that you can't continue on with. There's always certain subjects you can't do together, like last year, I couldn't do Media and Spanish for example, but if you pick three subjects in first year that are compatible, you will be able to continue on in second and third year with any combination of those three subjects.

LeixlipRed

I'm pretty sure there are some subjects in Arts that you cant do beyond first year. Not 100% sure of that now

Jr.Hero

LeixlipRed wrote:

I'm pretty sure there are some subjects in Arts that you cant do beyond first year. Not 100% sure of that now

yea thats right, biology can only been taken in first year, don't know of any other first year only subjects though.

Joe1919

Physics with Astrononony & Biology can only be taken in first year.
Please read
http://admissions.nuim.ie/subjects/documents/ArtsIntroLeaflet.pdf

marie_85

Ah. I get you now.

Joe1919

http://www.maths.nuim.ie/staff/dredmond/timetable/ is the link to the provisional arts timetable.

Rozabeez

nice wan, if that sticks then I've got 3 day weekends!

Nerfmenow

I heard that lectures aren't mandatory but there's a certain percentage that you've gotta attend. Anyone shed some light on this?

eamoss

Nerfmenow wrote:

I heard that lectures aren't mandatory but there's a certain percentage that you've gotta attend. Anyone shed some light on this?

You do not have to do anything never go to a lecture, lab or tut that is all up to you if you want to go.

Now is it worth a percentage most subjects with labs dont but others might which dont have labs.

Some take attence but most dont bother or if they do they get their friends to sign them in. Most of mine didnt take attence but they did in labs so we went in signed our name & student number and left

Like CS220 Computer Architecture I had a nice 12% attence for the sem like come on 9am on a Monday morning :mad: not a hope of me going to that

brianthebard

Nerfmenow wrote:

I heard that lectures aren't mandatory but there's a certain percentage that you've gotta attend. Anyone shed some light on this?

For arts there's no mandatory lectures, but if you are in a small subject (e.g. Irish) and the lecturer knows who you are then they can stop you from taking the exam at the end of the semester if they think that you don't deserve to. If you are in English or other big subjects its unlikely to happen, but it might in some of the smaller modules. In final year my chosen history modules had a role taken and if you missed a certain percentage then you got in trouble, but you had to miss a lot. Hope that helps.

LeixlipRed

A few of the faculties are strict on attendance. But most don't care. But obviously if you don't go to labs or tutorials you can't get the CA marks that may go with them. My advice would be to go to everything in the last two years of your degree. Before that you can afford to miss lectures, etc once you put the work in on your own time. First year should be spend racing shopping trolleys down Main Street while locked out of your face

brianthebard

So true...Although you can drift through second year in Arts and still do fine, but its better if you dont....

pisslips

Second year seems like more of a balancing act.
You've got to convince the people who might matter that you try at least.

I think third year is more like, I'm a selfish bastard, I don't care anymore, get out of my way, I'll see what I can do with a goal that I'm actually content achieving or at least proving that I can have conviction...not that anyone else will care.

brianthebard

pisslips wrote:

Second year seems like more of a balancing act.
You've got to convince the people who might matter that you try at least.

I think third year is more like, I'm a selfish bastard, I don't care anymore, get out of my way, I'll see what I can do with a goal that I'm actually content achieving or at least proving that I can have conviction...not that anyone else will care.

That's exactly it. You have to be a brown nose half the time, and it helps if you cut off friends and booze.

Rozabeez

So what you're saying is, don't be a waster?

pisslips

brianthebard wrote:

That's exactly it. You have to be a brown nose half the time, and it helps if you cut off friends and booze.

And what are the chances of me ever doing that....No, I think the moral is to learn how to have your cake and eat it too, then you shall inheret the earth.

Coco88

pisslips wrote:

And what are the chances of me ever doing that....No, I think the moral is to learn how to have your cake and eat it too, then you shall inheret the earth.

Well said:D

bheart65

Hi all,

Just wondering what first year geography is like - tough, easy etc. I am considering it as one of my options but am unsure. I will have a 2 hour commute every day over and back (mature student) and was wondering what the home assignments are like eg. lots of reading etc. Any help greatly appreciated. Was considering Comp. Sci. also but not sure now after reading some of the module info. Seems very complicated.

eamoss

bheart65 wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering what first year geography is like - tough, easy etc. I am considering it as one of my options but am unsure. I will have a 2 hour commute every day over and back (mature student) and was wondering what the home assignments are like eg. lots of reading etc. Any help greatly appreciated. Was considering Comp. Sci. also but not sure now after reading some of the module info. Seems very complicated.

Not a Arts student (thank god) but I know that geography have open book class tests and you are always in JH1 (the biggest lecture theater) but I am a Computer Science student, they have changed the course a little this year for the none CSSEs I know you dont do databases this year.

Computer Sci - Through Arts:

CS151 - Discrete Structures 1 -- I did this last year its all about true or false very easy to pass you will be dealing with Truth tables


CS141 - Introduction to Programming -- This is a new subject but it sounds like alot like the mod(CS154) I did last year. If you have any knowledge of coding (ie HTML) you will def do well in this subject.


CS142 - Introduction to Computer Science -- This is the same as CS156 last year. Alot of ppl dropped CS because of this mod but I find it easy but at the time I didnt.



CS143 - Introduction to Computer Systems -- Also like CS154 from last year and should be very easy but then again I didnt do this mod.

bheart65

Thanks Eamoss for the info. Excuse my ignorance, but I presume you mean that Geography students are allowed to look up answers in a book during a test? Sounds like a doddle. As regards the Computer Science, I am only an entry level tech at present A+ and Network+ , and wouldn't have any coding experience. Once again, thanks for the info.