Galway Bouncers

davemul

Hi Folks,
Items like the ones described should be reported to the PSA.
Their web site is www.psa.gov.ie . This is what they were set up for, to cut out this crap we all receive from bouncers who are on power trips. I am one of the people who train these asses to get their licences and they are not instructed by anybody I know to act like that. I myself have been treated like crap from bouncers and have given them alot to think about when I tell them my knowledge of the law!
Learn what right and wrong and ASK THEM FOR THEIR LICENSE NUMBER WHICH MUST BE DISPLAYED ON THEIR ID CARD AND MUST BE ON DISPLAY TO THE PUBLIC. But beware, they do not take to kindly to this!!!(speaking from experience)!!! If their is no ID card on display, get the name of the company they work for (amazing what a few phone calls can do)! Then report the incident to the psa. Either that or you could just turn on your heels and walk off!

davemul

DRakE wrote: »

don't be such a prick refusing to move and you wont get **** on by security :rolleyes:

I am gonna reckon that this person is a bouncer and is just as narrow minded as the rest of them. Some proper advice is to report them. You pay your taxes for these people to get licenses, after all, it is a goverment body that grants them licenses. They have no right to refuse you with usual excuses of "regulars only, over 21 only(unless their is a notice up) and all that crap. I have a book that gives all the reasons people CAN be refused for and that crap what they done to you. As for the other ass hole who said dont be a prick, I imagine your the prick here cos if somebody cant go out and try have a good night without somebody on a power trip refusing him, has he not got a right to protest if he has done nothing wrong? Yes, he might have gone the wrong way around it, but this does still not condone the use of physical restraint.

james1984galway

your all fools,i dont drink etc etc so im probably the only person here that hasnt had a run-in with any bouncers in my life,u fools seem to forget that you all act like idiots having took a few drinks and deserve whatever you get.if any of you were bouncers u would do exactly what current bouncers do,EXXXXACTLY,except ya wouldnt have the balls and thats why you havnt applied.hit da gym losers.the healths the wealth! former cps bouncer here,professional set up in that place! ya couldnt beat it with a stick sir!

Krieg

james1984galway wrote: »

former cps bouncer here!

Says it all really

I've never been inside a gym in my life and have managed to avoid run-ins with bouncers. The only time in my life when I have been refused entry to a club because "I had too much to drink" was an evening when I went straight out after working late. I have been refused multiple times for being too young, back when it was legal to discriminate against under 21s.

bigeasyeah

Krieg wrote: »

Says it all really

ditto

happyoutscan

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

I know the guy from Massimo's you're talking about, ass-wipe, not been there a while now! As for the club, not that one, the other one on that street but as they've the same bouncers could easily be the same guy!

Agree with you. From experience this guy doesn't have the people skills to deal with people, not to mention people with drink taken. I have witnessed him in action and he is a disgrace, just as the management of these premises are for allowing this type of behaviour from their employees. How he gets away with it I don't know. I do know that some people are following up complaints in the correct way, myself included.

cL0h

Krieg wrote: »

Says it all really

+1

Xiney

Had a problem with a bartender at the Roisin a few weeks back. Never had anything like that happen before, and we weren't drunk. My theory is the guy was on drugs. Seriously - he was whacked out.

Complained to management but don't know if anything was done. (My money's on no)

Cathal01

Have had a few problems with bouncers. Giving ignorant buffoons any sort of position of authority is a dangerous thing. Not saying of course all bouncers are ignorant but a lot of them give the establishments they represent a bad rep.

Have found CPs to be OK considering the large influx of people they deal with going in and out of the place(especially on a Saturday). Have always found Karma to be the most professional and sensible.

You find the ***** of bouncers in towns like Athenry, Tuam etc.

Mrs OBumble

Cathal01 wrote: »

You find the ***** of bouncers in towns like Athenry, Tuam etc.

Representative of the populations there, perhaps?

Yeah, I know everyone has a lovely, clever auntie who lives in [name-your-favourite-small-town] - but let's just agree that she's not representative.

JIZZLORD

Cathal01 wrote: »

Have always found Karma to be the most professional and sensible.

as much as i hate karma i have to agree with you there

Wompa1

I got turned away from The Living Room for being too drunk before..I didn't drink and was designated driver...didn't care so much just thought it was a bit weird

Supermanscat

I was in coppers last week, walked in. No questions asked, no hassle from bouncers and i just made me realsie how bad bouncers are here and the power trips they are on!!

SimpleSam06

Wompa1 wrote: »

I got turned away from The Living Room for being too drunk before..

Haha, that reminds me of the first time my wife, who is from the other side of the planet, went there.

"Have you had a few drinks?"

"Oh yes, many and then I drink tequila also, woo I fall down! Haha!"

>_> <_<

Needless to say I educated her on bouncer etiquette directly thereafter, but she still won't go back to the place.

Fracture

If a bouncer refuses entry to you for whatever reason, if you are too drunk or not, the best thing to do is punch him/her, or even if they do let you in (even if you are steam boats) you should also punch them, its the best thing to do. :P

furryr

Im sure that everyone here of course would do a better job than some of the ppl on the door however i doubt they would do a better job than most , there have always been jobs which have attracted a certain level of cretinsm and bouncing can due to many factors attract a number of people who lack social skills in certain regards or who may use it as a form of therapy for their sense of inadequacy.indeed more so as it is easier to become a bouncer than it is to become anything else that gives you a teensy bit of responsibility.

Now I would have to say that on the whole I strongly doubt that without knowing every little detail and the exact context of each and every incident that it would really be hard to say that the bouncers are in the wrong , bouncers often have far more incentive than a punter to remain away from conflict.The fact that many here claim they dont is easy to say as you see or notice bouncing ..........only when things go wrong.

Let us take the case of context a typical dialogue from some club somewhere

bouncer ; howre ya keepin son yada yada yada how much have you had tonight

client: 1/2/85 three bottles of tequila and a quart of rum

the bouncer if hes good isnt also looking for the numeric answer as opposed to the response it can engender-

outrage that a bouncer has even the temerity to suggest that the client is drunk or indeed that the client must deign to speak to said bouncer
disbelief
hostility
falling backwards

or
a cogent answer delivered with no underlying subtext of hostility drunkenness or the euphoric joy of cocaine

you can be turned away for displaying latent aggression.
yes you had 1can or none but you havent even noticed that it was your tone manner and so one that caused you to be refused as opposed to a quantity of alcohol

So consider that if you are a bouncer you sadly only have at best 30 seconds to get it right now i would not be surprised if they got it wrong a lot more. What im surprised is that they so often get it right .

Everyone who comes on and says things such as i saw a bouncer doing this /doing that is probably not even getting half the story

-stuff like *bouncer shoved me off the stairs* sometimes lacks mention of
1) bouncer had asked 6 times nicely 2 leave and was told to f**k off by the client -
2)someone has just had been glassed upstairs and they need to get down the stairs fast to the first aid room/ambulance while drunk client is using stairs as company-
sometime you do not have the time to be polite .

On the front door it is sometimes but only rarely and then only after you exhaust a reasonable option to initially psychologically dominate the client when he has been refused rather than have him decide that you are in certain senses - soft the reasions are multiple , but the bottom line is that an aggressive person convinced that the bouncer is unhinged and likely to prefer violence to reason is more likely to scream that the bouncer is a cnut from a distance than suddenly decide to initiate violence . it is in essence winning the fight be ensuring it never happens .

Now we turn to the maths

1500 ppl in a club let us assume that 99% of people are completely fantastic ( a generous % youll all agree) well that still leaves 15 ppl youll have who will want to fight or generally be idiots in a dangerous manner , and their actions radiate to others who respond in self defense etc and that means that those 15 are *hassle multipliers*
In dealing with these ppl you will have at least 100 witnesses who neither saw the beginning , a weapon being removed or know the reason for the extraction . All they see is a 14-18 stone guy holding down a middle aged gent on the floor -The clients know what they see but the context of it they are all but ignorant of.

A gent I once knew was soundly castigated for his rough and tumble actions when he seemingly at random chased a young man through a club - and he was rough because the young man fought quiet desperatly
and anyone who witnessed it would have nothing good to say about a big guy being by no means gentle wrapping up this man and dragging him back inside -- but of course they didnt see the lady in the toilets whose cheekbone this young man smashed in .

It was in the galway advertiser a few years ago actually

doolox

Many years ago I was the subject of verbal and threatening attack by a group of Limerick guys while in a night club in Salthill.
As a result of the attack they were " asked to leave".
At the end of the night I was strongly advised to stay around until they had closed up and I was escorted to my car.
Sure enough the lads were waiting around to see me but were thwarted in their attempt to exact revenge.
In my naivete I would have just left at closing time and got clobbered if I hadn't been warned.............

furryr

clarify



young man dragged inside and held for the gaurds

and court case in galway advertiser yeras ago re young man vs lady + assault

not "bouncer drags young guy around like rag doll" court case :P

bigeasyeah

I used to work security,from clubs and hotels to builders yards and whatnot.I think some people just shouldnt be bouncers regardless of how many courses they complete.
That said a lot of people would be shocked to see their own behavior on a night out.I have dealt with a lot of people who 'know their rights' or 'could have my job'.

Caliden

If I ever get refused I just accept it and move on. No point arguing as its pointless unless you know someone on the door. Just head back another night and you will actually get a bit more respect for actually accepting a refusal than being a dickhead towards the bouncers.
Currently have no trouble getting in anywhere because I've gracfully accepted a refusal from everyclub in town!

I've only ever had a problem with bouncers once. That was going into CPs and in all fairness, I did have a bit too much to drink. Was quite funny though, as inside I was praying not to be let in as I had work again at 7am the next morning.

Ceartgoleor

Caliden wrote: »

If I ever get refused I just accept it and move on. No point arguing as its pointless unless you know someone on the door. Just head back another night and you will actually get a bit more respect for actually accepting a refusal than being a dickhead towards the bouncers.
Currently have no trouble getting in anywhere because I've gracfully accepted a refusal from everyclub in town!

Fully agree with this

LowOdour

my favourite is when I got stopped going into cp's for being too drunk...after having only 1 pint and 6 bottled waters. Had a bad head cold so didnt look the best. Was out for a friends birthday. 6 of my mates who had been drinking all not got in!
The bouncers could not believe I was so un-manly to have a head cold. :rolleyes:

Fair play though, mates demanded money back and we had a good night in Cuba

GunScope

Caliden wrote: »

If I ever get refused I just accept it and move on. No point arguing as its pointless unless you know someone on the door. Just head back another night and you will actually get a bit more respect for actually accepting a refusal than being a dickhead towards the bouncers.
Currently have no trouble getting in anywhere because I've gracfully accepted a refusal from everyclub in town!

+1

Well said, fully agree with this point, better to be kinda remembered for a good reason than definately remembered for a bad one.

foxy_19-89

LowOdour wrote: »

my favourite is when I got stopped going into cp's for being too drunk...after having only 1 pint and 6 bottled waters. Had a bad head cold so didnt look the best. Was out for a friends birthday. 6 of my mates who had been drinking all not got in!
The bouncers could not believe I was so un-manly to have a head cold. :rolleyes:

Fair play though, mates demanded money back and we had a good night in Cuba

how are the doormen suppost to know you have a head cold? and that you're not after snortin/poppin something?

try and look at it from their point of view, christ

they have a job to do too

Wompa1

Ha Ha yeah legend of the dog faced woman

Zzippy

Wompa1 wrote: »

Ha Ha yeah legend of the dog faced woman

Sorry what?

s_carnage

james1984galway wrote: »

your all fools,i dont drink etc etc so im probably the only person here that hasnt had a run-in with any bouncers in my life,u fools seem to forget that you all act like idiots having took a few drinks and deserve whatever you get.if any of you were bouncers u would do exactly what current bouncers do,EXXXXACTLY,except ya wouldnt have the balls and thats why you havnt applied.hit da gym losers.the healths the wealth! former cps bouncer here,professional set up in that place! ya couldnt beat it with a stick sir!

See they still haven't removed that chip from your shoulder. Feel sorry for ya man, ya should really think about going private.

ZorbaTehZ

james1984galway wrote: »

your all fools,i dont drink etc etc

Nor can you spell properly.