Any other 1st year DKIT'ers out there?

smemon

annex wrote:

Yeah same here, finally left the registration hall at 12.15

Don't remember that sheet, maybe I got it and didn't take in what it was, I am a bit scatty at times lol. No need for a scan, at least I know when classes start.
Ok well then i'll see you Monday morning, thanks for the heads up.

no problem, see you there..

most of the people i met were doing multimedia, so i'm not quite sure what to expect for our class in terms of numbers..

annex

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, everybody seemed to be doing level 8

embee

I went to an open day for mature students last week and we were told that classes start on the 10th.

Slashman X

Is anyone here doing the "Computing in Internet Technologies"? I'm considering doing it and wanted to know if it was worthwhile

MDTyKe

Im doing it Slash (starting 3rd year). I think it's best to ask you; what do you expect its like? It's tied with Games Development for Year 1 and most of Year 2, except for about 1 and eventually up to around 3 classes by the end of Year 2.

In first year you'll do extremely basic stuff, but you have to do it on all courses. That'll include an introduction to programming (Java), Media (web design/graphics), how to type your name in Word, and things like Networks. You also do a stupid course on writing papers etc, bibliographies and what-not which seems useless, but it'll be useless once you come to do your thesis etc in a few years.

Second and third (1st in 2nd year) semester you'll advance on the last, doing Java, Javascript, networks etc. We also start to take on some business electives; management, eBusiness etc which are quite good. As for third year, not sure yet. To note though, our class went from 18-20 to almost 4 from 1st to 2nd year. People "think" its easier than it is; you will need to work!

Any other questions just PM me.


Matt

Slashman X

MDTyKe wrote:

Im doing it Slash (starting 3rd year). I think it's best to ask you; what do you expect its like? It's tied with Games Development for Year 1 and most of Year 2, except for about 1 and eventually up to around 3 classes by the end of Year 2.

In first year you'll do extremely basic stuff, but you have to do it on all courses. That'll include an introduction to programming (Java), Media (web design/graphics), how to type your name in Word, and things like Networks. You also do a stupid course on writing papers etc, bibliographies and what-not which seems useless, but it'll be useless once you come to do your thesis etc in a few years.

Second and third (1st in 2nd year) semester you'll advance on the last, doing Java, Javascript, networks etc. We also start to take on some business electives; management, eBusiness etc which are quite good. As for third year, not sure yet. To note though, our class went from 18-20 to almost 4 from 1st to 2nd year. People "think" its easier than it is; you will need to work!

Any other questions just PM me.


Matt

Cheers Matt,

I was looking for a "Web Programming" type course, and that was the best one i could find, I'm pretty intermediate at Server Side as it is, so I should enjoy it.

Is it hard/worthwhile etc?

MDTyKe

Hey,

I had PM'd you, but then realized what you mentioned here. I actually "thought" it was more aimed at Web Development to be honest. It's not.

It does 'some' things, for example we start off with HTML, CSS, Javascript, then we go into JSP and Databases with JSP, SQL etc.

I'd say Im probably at your level too; Im starting up a business in web and graphic design. To be honest, if I was going by what the college taught me, I'd be nowhere. After 2 years, you'd be lucky to know CSS and how to open a database.

Web design though, is actually something one learns mostly themselves; so whether or not that's an aspect, I dont know. Ive seen other students doing ASP though, so maybe it does get more 'advanced'. Ask me in a year To be honest though, I dont think you can take a degree in 'web programming' as such - you need to learn it yourself. Im planning on getting some books out of the library this year on PHP and MySQL which I know, but I wouldn't know enough to make a web application!




Matt

annex

OK so how is everyone getting on with classes?
Any regrets?

annex

A quick question oh wise one.
I wanted to know what year 2 was like, yeah i know only week 3 and I am thinking about next year. Reason I ask is I would like to do networking but HATE programming, can I just do enough this year to pass programming and know I won't have to touch it next year or will it be part of all 3 years?

draffodx wrote:

i'm goin into the third year of that course lads, first year is fairly easy and is a really gentle start to things, you get abit of everything in the first two semesters, i say its easy as in if you concentrate and do your work you wont find it to be overly stressfull or hard.

computer architecture is one of the most technical subjects make sure you attend these classes especially the labs as if you fall behind at all it will get confusing

Programming Principles is an introduction to basic programming, i think its changed since i done it but again you need to attend class and make sure you keep up with all the questions you'll be given as well as puting work into projects

Interactive Multimedia i enjoyed this alot, you get to use photoshop as well as other editing software and do grpahics and website type stuff, its fairly simple and enjoyable

Maths for Computing 1 ah the dreaded maths, always was my week point but was very easy i thought, the lecturers were very good and the content is actually easy enough and mostly leaving cert stuff repeated, we even got to bring in sheets with solutions to the tests during the semester

Computer Applications this is just using the basic pc programs like word, excel, powerpoint, really easy and shouldn't be a problem

Study & Learning Skills an easy enough part of the course, its more annoying than anything, you wont see the point in it, but it has to be done, we got a end of year bowling trip that was great craic through this though

any help you need with the course or anything just let me know

Atomic Pineapple

annex wrote:

A quick question oh wise one.
I wanted to know what year 2 was like, yeah i know only week 3 and I am thinking about next year. Reason I ask is I would like to do networking but HATE programming, can I just do enough this year to pass programming and know I won't have to touch it next year or will it be part of all 3 years?

you can pick software development, applications and support or networking at the end of first year so you can, if you choose networking I believe you miss most of the programming but you will still need to do some visual basic.net, its more web based programming, this is in second year but once you get to third year then networking people have no programming classes

applications and support is the same in second year, you have to do the visual basic.net but you also have to do it in third year as well, you have to create a web application using it like a shopping cart in semester 6.

and well software development is completely programming based so dont go near that, everyone hates programming when they start off so I wouldnt worry about it too much, but if you continue to hate it and like the networking then you should go for the networking route

hope this helps

annex

Thanks for that.

I guess I could do better in VB if I could put my mind to it, maths is my weak subject and most of my energy goes into that.
Second year seems like an impossible dream at the moment, still trying to find the right balance and the workload is freaking me out a bit.
Anyway I better work calls

Atomic Pineapple

which lecturer do you have for maths?

when i was in first year all our CA tests were open book and very easy to get the subject nearly passed before the final big test.

if you just concentrate on the vb CA you should get a decent enough mark to make passing in the final exam very easy.

the workload in first year can seem like alot alright i remember staying back in the college till 9 alot of the time

annex

We have Shane, good teacher but he's fast.
I know our work load seems like a lot but it probably isn't.
We have a VB assesment tomorrow, some of the class have a Multimedia Presentation. We have to do a webpage on geocities with a couple of dreamweaver pages, thats for Monday. We have to upload to moodle some time management log (yawn) for Study and Learning, that's also for Monday. Shane will probably hit us with an assesment next week, or the week after that.
Its just trying to juggle so many classes and assignments, you either learn to keep up or you fall on your ass.

Atomic Pineapple

Shane Dowdall??

I had Karen Mullane and Seamus Bellew for maths both really really good lecterers, maths was always a weak point of mine but i cant give these lecturers enough credit there really good and hopefully you'll have one of them in the next maths module.

that does seem like a lot of work for the 4th week in first year, in 3rd year and my first assignment isnt due until the week after next

annex

Yeah thats him. He reminds me of Tigger, always bouncing around

I'm glad somebody thinks our workload is a lot, to be honest I don't think the presentation for Interactive Multimedia is something we really need so early on, we got that assignment I think in our second week, we have had frig all classes in IM and to me its a bit of a cop out. There will be presentations until the start of Nov, I don't really want to listen to the ins and outs of a PS3 or the XBox 360 or even internet poker, I have no interest in it so what am I going to get out of it, probably not a lot.

Laters