Recommend me a video PMP

zod

Must haves
Large screen - 4" plus
Good resolution
Plays all formats without conversion - especially all Xvid/DivX avi's out of the box
At least 40GB
Decent battery life
Presents a usb disk - no stupid synching playlists

Optional
Records TV
Wifi
Browser / email
uses normal usb connections
charges over usb

Had an Archos 420, now looking for a replacement, whats the best one out there ??
thanks

Dman001

The new archos 605 but I don't think it has Divx or Xvid.http://www.archos.com/products/gen_5/archos_605wifi/index.html?country=global&lang=en
There is the Cowon A2. It has Divx and Xvid. Review here http://www.dapreview.net/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.239 I don't see why so many people want Divx/Xvid.

zod

Dman001 wrote:

I don't see why so many people want Divx/Xvid.

so I'm back to the Archos .. hmmmm

Xvid is great for compressing those DVDs of personal footage, taken with a camcorder.

I heard once that some shisters have managed to convert some hollywood movies into DivX, in Russia or China or other :eek: , if they discussed that here, they'd get banned though.

Dman001

I think the Archos is a good choice because it has everything (except Divx and Xvid).

pleasant Co.

the archos does indeed support Xvid, and usually archos support Divx although not officially.... but this time around I'm not too sure.

Bard

Dman001 wrote:

I don't see why so many people want Divx/Xvid.

Because it's a well compressed format and it's an Internet standard?

zod wrote:

I heard once that some shisters have managed to convert some hollywood movies into DivX, in Russia or China or other , if they discussed that here, they'd get banned though.

Gee... just in Russia or in China? Internet movie piracy isn't a worldwide problem?

You're right though, - it's not to be discussed here.

zod

Bard wrote:

Gee... just in Russia or in China? Internet movie piracy isn't a worldwide problem?

I suspect it is.


Is there no creatives / iriver / ipods / goodmans / other than can do the must haves also ?

Gran Hermano

If you're looking for the Creative option, consider the
Zen Vision W, both 30GB and 60GB options available.
Supports most formats/codecs.

http://www.creative.com/products/pmp/
http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?currency=EUR&cPath=3&products_id=2111


You can buy a spare rechargeable battery.
Will play Divx 4 & 5.

zod

Gran Hermano wrote:

If you're looking for the Creative option, consider the
Zen Vision W, both 30GB and 60GB options available.
Supports most formats/codecs.

http://www.creative.com/products/pmp/
http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?currency=EUR&cPath=3&products_id=2111


You can buy a spare rechargeable battery.
Will play Divx 4 & 5.

no experience of the creatives .. are they good?

is the zen ( non W ) any good ? they apparently are available here for 150 !?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055112039

zod

bought the new 605 wifi in the end

Dman001

Did you actually buy it or preorder it? Where did you buy/preorder it?

zod

Dman001 wrote:

Did you actually buy it or preorder it? Where did you buy/preorder it?

preorder here http://www.archos.com/store/index.html?country=ie&lang=en

Dman001

Let us know how you get on. It looks like they are out now.

zod

Dman001 wrote:

Let us know how you get on. It looks like they are out now.

emailed this morning :

Dear Customer,

We are pleased to inform you that your order placed on ARCHOS website has been shipped today.

You will receive it within 2 days.


Best regards

Web sales team

Ibjiba

Only thing about the Archos website is that the "weekly offers" often are not at all weekly...

Ghost Train

Looks like a cool device, would be interested to know how you find it.

zod

eolhc wrote:

Looks like a cool device, would be interested to know how you find it.

arrived today .. will let u guys know

Dman001

Did you buy any Plug-Ins?

zod

OK .. theres a great review here

My two cents :

Screen is excelent - size and resolution awesome, menu system intuitive and easy, touchscreen is handy ..but because theres no place to put the stylus :rolleyes: you end using ur fingers .. finger prints.

Playback is good although there has been one or two that needed the the downloadable codecs for €20 .. which I haven't. In fact I haven't bought any plugs in yet coz the thing cost €300! Will though soon. Probably the browser first ( another €30 )

It connects to wifi simply and the online archos content portal has four sample streamable videos which work well. You can stream content from your home PC using nero or media center upnp .. but it's of limited use to me.

the audio on some video content has gone crackly after 10 mins of playback .. firmware update tonight should fix that hopefully.. the non standard usb is a pain as is the lack of AC charge ( must charge over usb out of the box)

Overall great device .. slim and light with best in breed video.:D

.. although in the comparison with the iphone the iphone looks good also!

Dave!

Cowon A2 works perfectly for me

pleasant Co.

And so it should, it's a Cowon...

Looking forward to the Q5 myself though.

kaisersose77

after getting the archos 605 wifi myself today (160gb version). Delighted with it. Cost 320euros including shipping from hotmp3gear and didnt have to pay any import duty. The wifi is great, as i can stream xvids that are stored on my pc and satellite receiver.

Dman001

I was gonna do the same myself, buy the 160GB on HotMP3Gear but I thought if I was hit by customs it wouldn't be worth it. It is quite a bargin 160GB PMP for 320 Euro for all it does. Do you know Kaisersose77 if it streams iPod Mpgs and how long did shipping take?

kaisersose77

shipped wednesday last week, arrived today. Dont know about ipod mpegs ( do you mean .mov files? - if you so you have to get a 20euro plugin to play .mov quicktime files). It'll stream anything it supports i'd say as long as their filesize and bit rate aint huge. Web browser is better than i though it would be. All media players will add wifi, its so handy when you have a wireless router.

Dman001

I know I have to buy the Podcast Plugin to play the Mpeg4 videos but I thought I may be able to stream them without the Plugin.

kaisersose77

it plays avi's (xvid and divx which are mpeg4) without any plugin aswell as wmv. If it cant play the actual file, then streaming it isnt going to make a difference. Its brilliant value aslong as you dont have to pay import duty.



Look how much amazon in france are charging b4 shipping!

http://www.amazon.fr/Archos-605-wifi-lecteur-multimedia/dp/B000SAI8QU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/403-3008547-1087665?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188324955&sr=8-3

its 290 euros before shipping off hotmp3gear and you get $10 off with this coupon jbmm.net ( well i think its that)

Dman001

Thanks Kaiserose77. I e-mailed Archos and they told me it wold be 415 Euro here but I don't think that was a definite price. Is there a socket on the device for an AC adapter? What is Youtube like on it?

kaisersose77

Nope just usb cable ( but thats the way most mp3 players are now ), you can get docks off hotmp3gear. I ordered a battery dock, but thats not in stock till this week. Youtube works fine from what I have seen so far.

kaisersose77

If anyone got the 605 and got the browser plugin, here are some mms links for streaming tv:


Some of them mightnt work and some might crash your player (just hold the power button if that happens). The first one is down atm but usually showns nasn and then premier league matches when there on. At least 2 were on, on Sunday. I don't have them all named, espn news and espn 2 are there somewhere and working anyways and so are fox 5 and fox 31. All the mtv and tmf stations work aswell .

If you get a program called urlsnooper and go to any streaming tv/radio stations you can find the direct stream. If its mms, it usually works and some rtsp links work if you change rtsp to mms. I posted the streaming rte links before somewhere in this forum.


mms://streamwebtown.com/test2

mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:37165

mms://cbstv-0005-live.wm.llnwd.net/cbstv_0005_live

mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:54869

mms://a548.l2558036547.c25580.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/548/25580/v0001/reflector:56678

espn2 mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:45155

nhl mms://a1040.l858741709.c8587.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1040/8587/v0001/reflector:41709

fox31 mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:23292 23292&akcp=21686&akserial=1729&fp=v001 -

cstv mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:55585

cbs 13 mms://cbstv-0005-live.wm.llnwd.net/cbstv_0026_live

abc now mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:36819

newstalk mms://media.blueface.tv:10608/Newstalk

azteca 7 mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21687/v0001/reflector:30206

azteca 13
mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:55074

canal 13 mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:55074

nrk1 mms://straumV.nrk.no/nrk_tv_webvid03_m

nrk 2 mms://mms-icanal-live.online.no/nrk_tv_webvid04_h

alpha mms://206.222.31.146/alphagh3

rtl125 mms://151.1.245.36/rtl102.5vs

shanghai sports mms://tv.lzu.edu.cn/shyxty

golf mms://onair.sbsgolf.com/golflive


mms://utv-talksport.wm.llnwd.net/utv_talksport

fox 8 mms://a1090.l1814050135.c18140.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1090/18140/v0001/reflector:50135


mtv u mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21687/v0001/reflector:50505


cbs27 mms://a1832.l731147410.c7311.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1832/7311/v0001/reflector:47410

cstv mms://a1729.l2168647534.c21686.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1729/21686/v0001/reflector:58676


- TMF EEUWIGE HITS : mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_001

- TMF FIRE IT UP : mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_004

- TMF HOLLANDS GLORIE: mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_006

- TMF PURE: mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_007


- NICKELODEON: mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_002

- NICKELODEON JUNIOR: http://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_003 (

- MTV NEW BRAND: mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_005

- NICK HITS: mms://81.173.117.20/MTV_LOW_008




edit: well the mms links dont show up as live links so go to this site where I posted them before. If you go to the link below on your 605 and hold down on one of the links, pick open in new tab and it should stream the link. I found the link for streaming channel 4 but it only streams ok in windows media player, it shows up all garbled on the 605 and vlc player aswell.

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=6412&highlight=

Dman001

Are these links even legal? How big is the 605?

kaisersose77

check the pictures out here:

http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=7349


Most channels have internet streams now and found these links on plenty of forums. There not gonna look great on a pc, but are fine on a small screen.

Dman001

Thanks kaiserrose. I am guessing it won't fit in your pocket to easily.

Dman001

Does the browser support Flash 9? if you can Kasierose, can you test the site www.gotuitmusic.com. Can you post on forums using the browser and do you need the broswer to watch Youtube vids (I thought I herd you do not need the broswer to do this). Thanks.

kaisersose77

doesnt support flash 9 (well not yet anyways, adobe have never released the source code for flash 8/9 for mobile devices). You need web browser for youtube and you can post on forums with the browser. That website you linked isnt working atm.

Dman001

Thanks kaiserose. Very much appreciated.

Vokes

Almost certain im gonna buy myself an Archos 605 - it looks the business. Just not entirely sure where to get it from.

kaisersose77 wrote:

shipped wednesday last week, arrived today. Dont know about ipod mpegs ( do you mean .mov files? - if you so you have to get a 20euro plugin to play .mov quicktime files). It'll stream anything it supports i'd say as long as their filesize and bit rate aint huge. Web browser is better than i though it would be. All media players will add wifi, its so handy when you have a wireless router.

kaisersose77, about hotmp3gear.com, how many workdays was it between you placing your order and the item being shipped? cheers

Vokes

Another question if anyone can answer. And most probably a really stupid one at that.

The Archos Battery Dock - is this a portable external battery to be carried around plugged into the player and can be charged in a dock ?

Whereas the Mini-Dock is merely a simple dock to charge the player?

kaisersose77

the battery dock is basically the mini dock but has the bonus of being an external battery aswell (so its an external battery, can charge the player (i think it charges the battery first though), and has usb host and tv out). If you dont need an external battery then just get the mini dock.

They ship with plug adaptors for Europe/UK/US so you may aswell get one from hotmp3gear if your getting the 605.



I ordered mine before they were out, but when hotmp3gear got stock, I had it in about 6 days. Check archosfans forum as I think theres stock shortages well with the 160gb anyways.

A website that just started but will be updated a lot soon

http://www.darksouls.org/aup/modules/weblinks/

Im helping the guy behind it with links etc. Should have all the current apple trailers links on it soon enough and gametrailers.com reviews. And also links to streaming tv channels like Rte 1 and 2 and lots of others.

Vokes

Thankyou!

I've ordered from hotmp3gear.com, seems the best value. I expect i'll be waiting awhile though, as there does appear to be shortages about the place.

Do the hotmp3gear crowd send an email with tracking number when they send the item out the door ?

kaisersose77

They give you the tracking number before they ship/when they ship (they must buy pre-paid postal parcels). Just email the site and they should let you know what it is when its being shipped.

Vokes

Dropped them an email and got "We are just waiting for a shipment which is in transit then will ship right away".

Now to play the waiting game...

Ekancone

Its been a few weeks since in recieved my Archos 605, i must say it has been worth the money. Im looking forward to the widgets feature being added to it as well. I like the fact that it can read PDF files, though it would be handy if it could read word docs as well. It is a bit on the bulky side however, so it isnt the best for listening to music on the go. I hope that more software and features are added over time to get the best out of it.

5starpool

Has anyone ordered the Archos 605 from here: http://www.newmp3technology.com/Archos-605-160GB.htm

It is €328 incl delivery for the 160GB model, seems to be much cheaper than any other site, so I'm just wondering if there might be a reason for this?

Gran Hermano

5starpool wrote: »

Has anyone ordered the Archos 605 from here: http://www.newmp3technology.com/Archos-605-160GB.htm

It is €328 incl delivery for the 160GB model, seems to be much cheaper than any other site, so I'm just wondering if there might be a reason for this?

Looks like they're an e-bay powerseller with good feedback.

Also sell via Amazon US

5starpool

Cheers for that, I might just order from there soon then.

Gran Hermano

Watch out for customs & VAT charges (although I did like the following
on their site).

Both newmp3technology.com and hotmp3gear are shipping from outside
the EU and in theory (legally speaking ) you should pay additional
charges for importing.

I'd go for whichever site is the cheapest pre-customs charges.

kaisersose77

i'd go for hotmp3gear if you want to get it as cheap as possible and want some help with regards customs , dont know what newmp3technology do for that.

btw jbmm.net as discount code gets you $10 off on hotmp3gear

I think most sites are out of stock of the 160gb atm

5starpool

I ordered there, but when I ordered through newmp3technology I noticed that it said that HOTMP3GEAR will appear on your statement, so seems to be one and the same anyhow.

kaisersose77

Wonder why they dont link all their sites (the hotmp3gear owner has other sites as far as I know, didnt think that newmp3 was one) to that newmp3 one seeing as it looks an awful lot better than hotmp3gear!

Vokes

I see the hotmp3gear rep has posted updates on the archosfan forum, which is good to see.

Shipments inbound to them apparently !

Gran Hermano

Had planned on picking up a 605 when I'm next in the US with work but at the
hotmp3 price am tempted to order online. I'll be interested to hear how you
get on with delivery and any 'additional' charges.

Quick review on BBC site today comparing various PMPs including the Archos
- which wins.