Eamon O Hara

Nalced_irl

Lemlin wrote:

No other county would have acted like that Waylander. That's the problem. You wouldn't see the like of Kerry or Cork acting like that.

Oh jesus!!!!

TYRONE.....KEEPER....HILL 16....KISSING CREST.....DANCING AROUND CELEBRATING!!!!

Can you stop drifting over and ignoring that other players do it too now??

An Citeog

Lemlin wrote:

No other county would have acted like that Waylander. That's the problem. You wouldn't see the like of Kerry or Cork acting like that.

That's quite the statement. Have you ever seen the Cork hurlers? Niall McCarthy (the Cork centre-forward) seems to regularly scream in his opponents face while waving his arms around like a lunatic. Same with Setanta O'Hailpín in the All-Ireland final he played. There's plenty more players that do it aswell. The difference is that these lads are commended for showing passion and how much their county means to them.

I also agree with Blackbelt and most other Dublin fans that Vaughan went a bit OTT but it's just getting stupid now. Wow, it happened! It wasn't the first time and it wont be the last time either. There are far more important things to be worrying about in the game than the over-exuberance of a 21/22 year old.

Nalced_irl

An Citeog wrote:

That's quite the statement. Have you ever seen the Cork hurlers? Niall McCarthy (the Cork centre-forward) seems to regularly scream in his opponents face while waving his arms around like a lunatic. Same with Setanta O'Hailpín in the All-Ireland final he played. There's plenty more players that do it aswell. The difference is that these lads are commended for showing passion and how much their county means to them.

I also agree with Blackbelt and most other Dublin fans that Vaughan went a bit OTT but it's just getting stupid now. Wow, it happened! It wasn't the first time and it wont be the last time either. There are far more important things to be worrying about in the game than the over-exuberance of a 21/22 year old.

Spot on

meathman 007

An Citeog wrote:

That's quite the statement. Have you ever seen the Cork hurlers? Niall McCarthy (the Cork centre-forward) seems to regularly scream in his opponents face while waving his arms around like a lunatic. Same with Setanta O'Hailpín in the All-Ireland final he played. There's plenty more players that do it aswell. The difference is that these lads are commended for showing passion and how much their county means to them.

I also agree with Blackbelt and most other Dublin fans that Vaughan went a bit OTT but it's just getting stupid now. Wow, it happened! It wasn't the first time and it wont be the last time either. There are far more important things to be worrying about in the game than the over-exuberance of a 21/22 year old.

i agree other counties and players have do the same..... but the problem a lot of people on here have is that a lot of dubs have basically played it all down saying it was not that big of a deal - the fact is, it was a big deal and should never happen again in the gaa..... i think if the dubs on here admitted it was wrong from the start, the whole thing would be forgetton......... some of youse have taken a siege mentality and everytime someone says something against the dubs, we are called biased and anti dubs..... which couldnt be further from the truth....

Nalced_irl

Meathman, its as big a deal as every other time it has happened. If back then it didnt warrant much discussion, why does it now?

meathman 007

Nalced_irl wrote:

Meathman, its as big a deal as every other time it has happened. If back then it didnt warrant much discussion, why does it now?

i remember saying to a friend of mine what an idiot donaghy was last year for what he did - if i was a member of this forum back then i would have brought it up....

Nalced_irl

again i point out that you called the Dubs Scumbags, not Idiots for what they did.

An Citeog

Nalced_irl wrote:

again i point out that you called the Dubs Scumbags, not Idiots for what they did.

That's true and that's pretty much how this started. What kind of mentality do you expect Meathman when you come out calling all Dubs scum? It was a bit ott, from Vaughan, Bonner and Brogan but violence in the game is a much bigger problem and one that needs to be stamped out within the whole organisation.

Lemlin

Nalced_irl wrote:

Oh jesus!!!!

TYRONE.....KEEPER....HILL 16....KISSING CREST.....DANCING AROUND CELEBRATING!!!!

Can you stop drifting over and ignoring that other players do it too now??

Have you any evidence of this? Earlier you said it was in a game where someone later pointed out that the Tyrone keeper was at the Canal End in the second half!!!

I'd love to see a video or online reference to it.

K-9

news for you wrote:

Didn't he also go over to the Hill at the end of the replayed game and throw his jersey into the crowd, so it's not like there was any malice, i.e. Mulligan had respect for the Hill.

I think so. He used the Hill as motivation. Joe Brolly was alot more annoying at the show boating but then I'm from Donegal.:D

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

Oh jesus!!!!

TYRONE.....KEEPER....HILL 16....KISSING CREST.....DANCING AROUND CELEBRATING!!!!

Can you stop drifting over and ignoring that other players do it too now??

Mentioned earlier about Mulligan to during the 2 games in 05. Don't take it too seriously. If the Hill can give it they should take it as well. It was meant in the right spirit and I think most of the Hill would have admired his front.

What next, players can't celebrate in front of the Hill. Jesus, you's are starting to take over the Hill goals now. What next, no scoring into the Hill end for opposition teams.

An Citeog

Seanies32 wrote:

What next, players can't celebrate in front of the Hill. Jesus, you's are starting to take over the Hill goals now. What next, no scoring into the Hill end for opposition teams.

Now there's an idea! You think Central Council would object?!

Seanies32 wrote:

Mentioned earlier about Mulligan to during the 2 games in 05. Don't take it too seriously. If the Hill can give it they should take it as well. It was meant in the right spirit and I think most of the Hill would have admired his front.

Swap "Hill" with "Laois players" and that's exactly how I feel about this incident. Then again, that's just my opinion and that's exactly how I felt about the incident between Donaghy and Hearty last year. And that nice fella didn't lash out either although all of Ireland would have told him he was right to!

Nalced_irl

Lemlin wrote:

Have you any evidence of this? Earlier you said it was in a game where someone later pointed out that the Tyrone keeper was at the Canal End in the second half!!!

I'd love to see a video or online reference to it.

Well, my evidence are the 2 viewing things on the front of my face (eyes btw). I was at the game right behind the goal. Anyone else who was there would have seen it also. Im still quite sure it was that game. Oh yea, gotta throw a few exclaimation marks at the end also i suppose!!!

Nalced_irl

Seanies32 wrote:

Mentioned earlier about Mulligan to during the 2 games in 05. Don't take it too seriously. If the Hill can give it they should take it as well. It was meant in the right spirit and I think most of the Hill would have admired his front.

What next, players can't celebrate in front of the Hill. Jesus, you's are starting to take over the Hill goals now. What next, no scoring into the Hill end for opposition teams.

It doesnt bother me, but jesus...Thats My Whole Point! His celebrations were like The Dubs lads over-exadurated and also like the Dubs lads before the final whistle. You guys obviously dont know how the Hill reacted to his messing so i wont provide that ammo. Players can celebrate in front of the Hill all they like and can (try to) score into it also but my entire point is being missed. This seems to be the first time alot of you even heard about the Tyrone keeper so do you think the Dubs whinged and moaned for 8 days after it happened? Of course not. And you guys really should stop losing hair over this one and move on.

An Citeog

Nalced_irl wrote:

Well, my evidence are the 2 viewing things on the front of my face (eyes btw). I was at the game right behind the goal. Anyone else who was there would have seen it also. Im still quite sure it was that game. Oh yea, gotta throw a few exclaimation marks at the end also i suppose!!!

I was there too but I think it was in the drawn game that it happened. Could have been just after Mulligan scored that goal in the second half. I could have sworn I saw it before on youtube but I can't find it anymore.

Nalced_irl

An Citeog wrote:

I was there too but I think it was in the drawn game that it happened. Could have been just after Mulligan scored that goal in the second half. I could have sworn I saw it before on youtube but I can't find it anymore.

Just checked with my brother and you are right. It was after Mulligans goal to even the game. My memory for these things is awful. Either way, the point is still valid anyway. Actions like these dont need all this discussion, they happen and thats it.

patmac

What a laughable thread. Blackbelt should be banned for trolling :rolleyes: I mean what sort of reaction were you expecting. Dublin are unique and disliked in the other 31 counties because of their pick (over 1,000,000) and the Hill and there obnoxious booing of the opposition. So when Vaughan and others behave like idiots of course it's going to wind everyone up they should have more sense and be made aware of their responsibilities but instead this behaviour seems more prevalent as if it is being actively encouraged in order to give an advantage, so I like all people outside Dublin will cheer on their opposition no matter who it is.
By the way I spoke to Colm Parkinson a few days after Meath trod on his head for showboating at the end of the Meath-Laois match (in 2003 I think) and he said he probably deserved it.

Cowboy79

I always swore I wouldn't get involved in posting on these threads but eventually have folded and registered! Lads time to agree to disagree on it. There's about 3 threads going all arising from the goading incidents in the Laois match. I'm actually from Sligo but feel O'Hara had no real business getting involved although he was describing the way a lot of people feel about the incidents. Personally think it's been blown out of all proportion, has been going on anyway for years in championship matches but it's time to move on. All of the talk on the GAA thread is almost always taken up with Dub v non Dub rubbish. Time to move on and talk some proper football!

blackbelt

Banned for trolling?Jaysus Pat if you wanted to report a thread as being trolling,then you're 2 months too late.Also,you are 46 years of age and probably the most senior member on the GAA forum,act like it.

This thread is an issue actually and is valid as far as I'm concerned.Its not as if there was nothing said.I hate violence in the game and I felt the need to discuss it as this particular incidence was been over-looked.

The reason you crawled out of the woodwork was because this issue hits close to home.You are a Roscommon man and a PRO for a Roscommon club,is that why this thread is laughable and deemed as trolling?I'm not terribly familiar with the rivalry between Sligo and Roscommon but it does transpire that some fans are objective.Do you actually excuse what O Hara said?Had James Masters or Colm Cooper said those things,I guess you wouldn't dub a particular thread regarding those two as laughable and trolling?...yes,no?

Also,I do not give a monkies of who you support against Dublin.If you can't stand to see Dublin win thats your business.I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

patmac

blackbelt wrote:

Banned for trolling?Jaysus Pat if you wanted to report a thread as being trolling,then you're 2 months too late.Also,you are 46 years of age and probably the most senior member on the GAA forum,act like it.

This thread is an issue actually and is valid as far as I'm concerned.Its not as if there was nothing said.I hate violence in the game and I felt the need to discuss it as this particular incidence was been over-looked.

The reason you crawled out of the woodwork was because this issue hits close to home.You are a Roscommon man and a PRO for a Roscommon club,is that why this thread is laughable and deemed as trolling?I'm not terribly familiar with the rivalry between Sligo and Roscommon but it does transpire that some fans are objective.Do you actually excuse what O Hara said?Had James Masters or Colm Cooper said those things,I guess you wouldn't dub a particular thread regarding those two as laughable and trolling?...yes,no?

Also,I do not give a monkies of who you support against Dublin.If you can't stand to see Dublin win thats your business.I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Ok banned for trolling is probably too strong but what sort of response did you expect to get? Actually despite your fact finding mission(quite scary tbh) you missed that I am a Westmeath man living in Roscommon the last team to beat Dublin in the LSFC and a very enjoyable occasion for all outside Dublin that day. Look obviously like I said before at the end of the day;) lets just say that because of the certain advantages that Dublin enjoy regarding Croker that the antics of some of the players leaves a lot to be desired and while it may be great craic to the Dubs and their fans its really annoying the rest of the country and to suggest a small county like Sligo lose their star player for one their biggest ever games because he said the Laois player should of hit Vaughan but was glad he didn't is laughable imo, also agree that O'Hara shouldn't have got involved.
Anyway I've work to do so good luck with the detective agency work.

Nalced_irl

Agree fully with Cowboy79 (welcome to the board btw). I would like to put forward a vote to lock all threads relating to the game and the incidents. They are all going in circles and obviously noone is going to fold and agree with the other side at this stage. I think it is time to move on and discuss what may happen in the future matches ect instead of staying with this one for the best part of 2 weeks so Kaimera, i vote to close all these threads(and im sure u do too )

cruiserweight

Nalced_irl wrote:

Agree fully with Cowboy79 (welcome to the board btw). I would like to put forward a vote to lock all threads relating to the game and the incidents. They are all going in circles and obviously noone is going to fold and agree with the other side at this stage. I think it is time to move on and discuss what may happen in the future matches ect instead of staying with this one for the best part of 2 weeks so Kaimera, i vote to close all these threads(and im sure u do too )

Or how about a sticky for "I hate/love/am indifferent about Dublin". It could be a debating forum where you can argue with regular guests Blackbelt, Lemlin, Meathman ....... etc.

Waylander

Seconded!

Patmac, please do not presume to speak for all people outside Dublin. I know there are plenty of people outside Dublin that do like to see them fall on their faces, but there are plenty of non Dubs who would like to see them win a title, and believe that it would be good for the game.

Nalced_irl

cruiserweight wrote:

Or how about a sticky for "I hate/love/am indifferent about Dublin". It could be a debating forum where you can argue with regular guests Blackbelt, Lemlin, Meathman ....... etc.

That could work I would think it would need its own mod to monitor tho

patmac

Waylander wrote:

Seconded!

Patmac, please do not presume to speak for all people outside Dublin. I know there are plenty of people outside Dublin that do like to see them fall on their faces, but there are plenty of non Dubs who would like to see them win a title, and believe that it would be good for the game.

Agreed but getting fewer by the game especially after last week.
Also would like to support the current motion as well because I can't help getting involved and really need to do some work.

cruiserweight

Nalced_irl wrote:

That could work I would think it would need its own mod to monitor tho

No no mod needed, it could be like a cage match it will be survival of the fittest

blackbelt

Well I had remembered you PM'ed me telling me those things so no detective work was needed either.I don't get hot and bothered if people like to see Dublin losing etc.

My grandfather from Mayo loves to see the Dubs win so there goes your theory about EVERYONE outside Dublin.:D

jmayo

blackbelt wrote:

Well I had remembered you PM'ed me telling me those things so no detective work was needed either.I don't get hot and bothered if people like to see Dublin losing etc.

My grandfather from Mayo loves to see the Dubs win so there goes your theory about EVERYONE outside Dublin.:D

I'll bet he wasn't shoutin' for them last year
I hope he didn't rub it in too much

blackbelt

He didn't actually but he said the whole game brought a tear to his eye. We are of the impression he is more of a Dublin fan than Mayo.He'd praise Dublin for their style of play before he would Mayo and never bragged about the Mayo win.He is from Killasser,Swinford.Some of my uncles and aunts are from Mayo.They all moved to Dublin in the 1950s.

My uncle is the man to talk to for rubbing it in although he loves seeing Dublin win in any other game not involving Mayo.:eek:

blackbelt

And strangely enough,my grandfather would rather see Mayo get beat by Galway in a Connaught Final as when Mayo win against Galway,its usually their peak performance...apart from last year.

stepbar

Here's what he said

http://www.hoganstand.com/Laois/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=80563

Now, TBH its laughable to think you look at this in the same light as what went on during the actual game. Laughable.

stepbar

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blackbelt

Don't be so naive.Its a disgrace what he said.Nobody has a right to hit another person unless its self defence.the only thing thats laughable is a person who will dismiss a persons comments in saying he had a right to act like a thug.

Vaughans celebration was a bit ott and petulent but it did not warrant violence or thuggery.It didn't physically provoke Rooney did it?

johnnog

blackbelt wrote:

Nobody has a right to hit another person unless its self defence

This might be percieved as being a bit pedantic but people should learn to read and understand articles correctly before posting on them. The article states that "Sligo midfielder Eamonn O’Hara believes that Darren Rooney had every right to lash out at Mark Vaughan" . These words are the words of the journalist, which may be just his intrepretation.
The article gives a quote from the man which says "Everybody in Ireland would have said that he was dead right to do it. So credit to him for not" .

Having a right to do something is subtly different from claiming that the general population be of the opinion that somebody was right to do something. I might have a right to do something but people might say that, maybe morally or whatever, I would not be right to do it. And vica-versa.

Obviously you can't really take the statement "Everybody in Ireland" too literally. I doubt Vaughan himself or maybe close friends or family would have thought it. Or even certain posters on this board.

Sure the man even said -->
“Dublin have a cockiness and an arrogance. People might be saying the taunts might come back to haunt them, but you have to have an arrogance”

Which was basically saying that you do need a certain arrogance (maybe he meant confidence). He was semi-standing-up for the antics, I think just saying that he felt that he was lucky he didn't get a smack for going overboard.

The impression I got from the article was that it was more about praising Rooney's restraint in dealing with the matter , rather than criticising Vaughans actions.

stepbar

blackbelt wrote:

Don't be so naive.Its a disgrace what he said.Nobody has a right to hit another person unless its self defence.the only thing thats laughable is a person who will dismiss a persons comments in saying he had a right to act like a thug.

Vaughans celebration was a bit ott and petulent but it did not warrant violence or thuggery.It didn't physically provoke Rooney did it?

How about reading the words in the article and understanding them Blackbelt?

jmayo

blackbelt wrote:

He didn't actually but he said the whole game brought a tear to his eye. We are of the impression he is more of a Dublin fan than Mayo.He'd praise Dublin for their style of play before he would Mayo and never bragged about the Mayo win.He is from Killasser,Swinford.Some of my uncles and aunts are from Mayo.They all moved to Dublin in the 1950s.

My uncle is the man to talk to for rubbing it in although he loves seeing Dublin win in any other game not involving Mayo.:eek:

Seen as where he is from, he should have been screamin every time David Heaney touched the ball. You'll probably tell me now he has a Dublin accent as well

blackbelt

Nobody has a right to just assault somebody.The GAA rules (which are inconsistently applied) would have the rule that punching etc is against the rules and code of conduct and is punishable.

Maybe O Hara was more highlighting Rooneys restraint but he still had no right.Simply put,when you don't have the right to do something but partake that course of action,you will be punished or pay the consequences.Had Rooney hit Vaughan,he would have been punished,suspended etc.

Now Stepbar,how about reading this post and understanding it.

monosharp

I'm fairly sure the rules state that your not supposed to punch someone. I'm also fairly sure that there isn't a provision in the rules to allow Dublin players to act like spoiled children and disrespect opposition players like that.

So what ?

The simple fact of the matter is that if someone did that to any one of us in a club game, including you blackbelt, he'd get a slap or at the very least get knocked on his ass.

I'm so sick of this excuse mongering for the Dubs, it sickens me. From last years absolute BS with the dubs "marching" towards the hill when Mayo went to kick around there to the infamous back charge by a member of our beloved gardaí to the utter crap they do on the pitch. I'm sick of it.

Its not that no other county wouldn't get away with doing it, they would. Its that no other county would act like 15 spoiled children suffering from an arrogance disorder.

The Dublin bandwagon is NOTHING better then the complete scumbags that get drunk and stagger their way throw the turnstiles in Old Trafford. The genuine Dublin fans should be a) ashamed of these scumbags who applauded Vaughan and Brogan and b) they should be ashamed of Vaughan/Brogan/Bonner etc

The most sickening thing i thought was the "group scumbaggery". Its like a knacker you meet on the street, as quiet as a mouse unless he has his mates there, then hes suddenly a hard bastard.

Oh and just to add to the debate.

Laois full back Darren Rooney has claimed team medics were abused by some Dublin players as he was treated for a serious knee injury during the recent Leinster SFC final.

TV pictures showed Dublin stars Mark Vaughan, Alan Brogan and Kevin Bonner taunting Laois players during the Croke Park win, antics which have been roundly condemned in the media since then.

Vaughan gestured to Rooney after scoring Dublin’s first goal and the Laois dual star has claimed that it will be difficult to look some of the Dublin players straight in the eye again following the controversial antics.

“Nobody is there to take abuse like that,” he said.

“Excuses have been made for the Dublin players since, trying to cover it up.

“It is there, it is part of the game but it shouldn’t be part of it. Without a doubt, it was hard to take but we weren’t getting dirty.

“We were beaten and taking it, but for them to make a laugh of it . . .”

The Clonaslee-St. Manman’s clubman, who is set to miss Saturday’s All-Ireland qualifier against Derry after initial scans showed he suffered cruciate ligament damage, further revealed: “Some of our medical staff got the height of abuse from Dublin players.

“I was on the ground getting treated before that, Dublin backroom staff were coming in off the line and one fella came in and jostled me.

“We’d all know those Dublin lads but after what happened, it will be hard to look at them in the face again.”

blackbelt

monosharp wrote:

I'm fairly sure the rules state that your not supposed to punch someone. I'm also fairly sure that there isn't a provision in the rules to allow Dublin players to act like spoiled children and disrespect opposition players like that.

So what ?

The simple fact of the matter is that if someone did that to any one of us in a club game, including you blackbelt, he'd get a slap or at the very least get knocked on his ass.
I'm so sick of this excuse mongering for the Dubs, it sickens me. From last years absolute BS with the dubs "marching" towards the hill when Mayo went to kick around there to the infamous back charge by a member of our beloved gardaí to the utter crap they do on the pitch. I'm sick of it.

Its not that no other county wouldn't get away with doing it, they would. Its that no other county would act like 15 spoiled children suffering from an arrogance disorder.

The Dublin bandwagon is NOTHING better then the complete scumbags that get drunk and stagger their way throw the turnstiles in Old Trafford. The genuine Dublin fans should be a) ashamed of these scumbags who applauded Vaughan and Brogan and b) they should be ashamed of Vaughan/Brogan/Bonner etc

The most sickening thing i thought was the "group scumbaggery". Its like a knacker you meet on the street, as quiet as a mouse unless he has his mates there, then hes suddenly a hard bastard.

Oh and just to add to the debate.

Monosharp,do not dare to presume or tell me how I'd react.I would not react in this fashion.

I played a challenge match against Oliver Plunketts/Eoghan Ruadh on a hot sunny day in St Annes last June and we had the match well won,more to the style of Dublin-Laois in 2006 and I was corner forward that day.Everything was in place that day and the only people not to score was the goalkeeper and two of the full back line.

After scoring a goal and 2 points,I went in to challenge their goalkeeper and gave him a fair shoulder out over the line for a 45.He yelled crap out of me and I simply laughed it off.Thats how a sports man should react if he has to.

kaimera

Mono; 2 week ban.

blackbelt

jmayo wrote:

Seen as where he is from, he should have been screamin every time David Heaney touched the ball. You'll probably tell me now he has a Dublin accent as well

Well he's in his late 80s now and he's ever so relaxed.I'm sure he'd be screamin in his head.:D Its hard to attract his attention to ask him if he wants a cup of tea while he's watching a Mayo game.Half time is our best chance.

He has no Dublin accent at all either JMayo.He spent pretty much the last 50 years living outside Mayo.He came back from England to go back to Mayo for a short while.Having spent some time in Wales,England,Dublin and Saudi Arabia as a builder,you'd swear he came across some mad accents but did not alter his.He left Mayo at first when he was 16 but you can hear his Mayo accent when he says certain words like "ookaay".:D

You can take a Mayo man out of Mayo but you can't take Mayo out of a Mayo man.:D

stepbar

blackbelt wrote:

Well he's in his late 80s now and he's ever so relaxed.I'm sure he'd be screamin in his head.:D Its hard to attract his attention to ask him if he wants a cup of tea while he's watching a Mayo game.Half time is our best chance.

He has no Dublin accent at all either JMayo.He spent pretty much the last 50 years living outside Mayo.He came back from England to go back to Mayo for a short while.Having spent some time in Wales,England,Dublin and Saudi Arabia as a builder,you'd swear he came across some mad accents but did not alter his.He left Mayo at first when he was 16 but you can hear his Mayo accent when he says certain words like "ookaay".:D

You can take a Mayo man out of Mayo but you can't take Mayo out of a Mayo man.:D

How about reading johnnog's post? eh?

blackbelt

stepbar wrote:

How about reading johnnog's post? eh?

Are you from Canada by any chance?:) I did read his post but still disagree.Rooney didn't have the right to hit Vaughan.He wasn't physically provoked and had he punched Vaughan,he would have been in very big trouble.Again,I'll state that if you do not have the right to do something but do it,you will be reprimanded,disciplined and punished etc.

We'll never know exactly what O Hara said but to publish such a point of view from a person would need certainty.If I said to a reporter/journalist/interviewer that cannabis was harmless,he'd hardly publish that I think it should still be legalised.

Its the " had every right" part I disagree with while I do admire Rooney for sticking to principles.Its seems fairly straight-forward this interpretation of what O Hara said about having every right to do it.

Lemlin

Have you ever thought about writing a book Blackbelt? Your autobiographical posts are simply fantastic

blackbelt

Yes I might actually Lemlin.Me and JMayo have one thing in common...a Mayo connection,probably the nicest county outside "The Pale".;)

jmayo

Hang on there Blackbelt...
We might have the Mayo part in common but I would firmly be in the Anti Dub camp. Remember John Finns borken jaw in 1985 match against Dublin.
Now don't get excited I am also fiercely anti Cork (1989/1993), anti Meath (the ******* robbed us and got the big fellow sent off). Actually I am pretty anti everything/everyone so I can't be accussed of being selective/racist or PC.

BTW Eamon O'Hara would hale not that far from your granddas home place (about 8 miles depending on the road me thinks) so go easy on the lad.
He expressed an opinion.
He is outspoken and unlike a lot of the dribble that is uttered by other intercounty players and other sportsmen, he is usually direct and no holds barred.
Look at a recent interview where he stated his opinion on the ref that sent him off, by mistake, last year.
It is direct and straight, but he wouldn't be getting any christmas cards out of it.

Anyway I am mighty glad to see the boys over the border doing well.
They were unlucky few years ago against Armagh and it would be nice to see them get one over Cork.

Actually Connaught is the only province, where over last 15 odd years all counties have won title.
We are very sharing down here don't you know.