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let's talk about flat calling 3bets preflop

robinlacey · 2007-07-25 02:44:54

ok i've been thinking about this idea of flat calling 3bets more since it came up in a thread last week and i don't like it one bit. (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055123120&page=3) however,fuzzbox and ste both seemed interested in talking about this more and so am i,so i thought i'd make a thread out of…

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#52 27-07-2007 7:53am

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Very interesting thread so far and a subject which has been on my mind for a while as well.

I think a 3 bet calling frequency has to be based on your ability to play 3 bet pots post flop.

I also think that postflop play needs to be analyzed first and hence, which hands are best to call 3 bets with, before we can come to conclusions on optimal 3 bet calling frequencies. Unfortunately, that's fairly subjective and depends on a lot of variables.

4 betting needs to be considered as well but, imho, it doesn't need to be a shove. A smaller 4 bet may have close to the same FE as a shove and also allows you to consider whether calling a 5 bet shove is a profitable play against specific opponents. A tl;dr discussion on equity vs. 5 bet shoves.

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#53 27-07-2007 10:45pm

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bump

(how did this thread get down to page 2!!!!!!)

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