Another Garcia (Javi) for Liverpool?

RE*AC*TOR

my god, could we possibly need or want another defensive midfielder?

Garcia contemplates Liverpool switch
July 25, 2007

Javi Garcia has confirmed he is considering joining Liverpool.


The 20-year-old defensive midfielder has spent the last five seasons at Real Madrid but has been unable to secure a place in the starting line-up.

Real are keen for Garcia to sign a new deal at the Bernabeu, but Liverpool are understood to be leading the chase for his signature.

"My colours are Real Madrid but if it's impossible to play there then England is a sensational country and Liverpool is a historic club," Garcia is quoted in the Daily Mirror.

PHB

There is very little logic to this, unless somebody is being sold?

RE*AC*TOR

Sissoko seems the weakest link, also not entirely sure of mascherano's contract status.

Mr Alan

Think Momo will be sold next summer

Mr Alan

As far as i know with Mascherano, Liverpool don't actually have him on loan, they have purchased him. Except only on a short term deal (18 months) with the option to buy (or renew, watever way you wanna put it) at the end.

evil_seed

Never heard of him tbh. But to attack on all fronts it looks like Rafa is gonna have seperate teams for each competition. i dunno....

Stky10

Apparently he played very well in the U-20 World Cup, so he's a decent prospect.

No point in signing him though and sticking him in the reserves, so I could well imagine him being loaned out to Bolton/Wigan etc if we do sign him.

zing

He's Luis cousin - we need him so we can keep singing the Garcia song

Vokes

millersangel wrote:

Except only on a short term deal (18 months) with the option to buy (or renew, watever way you wanna put it) at the end.

So, he is on loan then...

zing

millersangel wrote:

As far as i know with Mascherano, Liverpool don't actually have him on loan, they have purchased him. Except only on a short term deal (18 months) with the option to buy (or renew, watever way you wanna put it) at the end.

Which if you think about it would make it closer to a lease rather than a purchase or a loan.

Chardee MacDennis

i would say we wont keep masch which would be a massive mistake. imho anyone of alonso/gerrard/momo/masch would get into the first XI of 18/19 prem teams it unrealistic that we can keep them all happy especially if Lucas is as good as everyone says.

Stky10

zing wrote:

He's Luis cousin - we need him so we can keep singing the Garcia song

Except he's not 5'7'' or even 5'11'' which would still rhyme, but instead 6'1''.

Wouldn't quite have the same ring to it would it?

zing

Stky10 wrote:

Except he's not 5'7'' or even 5'11'' which would still rhyme, but instead 6'1''.

Wouldn't quite have the same ring to it would it?

Aren't we allowed some artistic license ?

Stky10

zing wrote:

Aren't we allowed some artistic license ?

Ah yeah, like little luis was only 5'6'', so I'm sure 5'11'' could easily be used without anyone getting into a strop over it. Whether Javi plays football from heaven or is possibly a teetotaller who wouldn't touch Sangria though might be taking a liberty

jesus_thats_gre

Defo signing this guy to cover ourselves in case there is probs with Mascherano I think.

Mr Alan

SofaKing wrote:

So, he is on loan then...

No . . . . . . Liverpool have bought him.

Is Torres on loan for 6 years?

PHB

I looked into this a while ago and couldn't find any conclusive reports on it.
Either he is on loan for 18 months, with an option to purchase (estimated at around 15 million) [which would be this summer]
OR
he is bought for 1.5 million on an 18 month deal. As in, MSI still own him, but they've sold the registration to him for 18 months. I don't know why you'd do this, except maybe to get around the 3rd party ownership or something, not sure.

Either way, this summer, Liverpool can buy him. Whether it's a pre-agreed price or not is unclear.

Mitch Connor

millersangel wrote:

No . . . . . . Liverpool have bought him.

Is Torres on loan for 6 years?

At the end of the six years do you have to pay Atletico 20odd million to kep him?

See, there is a difference.

I'd say it is a lease.

(btw - you CAN pay to loan players, you just pay a nominal fee, nothing close to the transfer value)

Mr Alan

True, my bad.

He still ain't going to Utd though

~Rebel~

Tauren wrote:

At the end of the six years do you have to pay Atletico 20odd million to kep him?

See, there is a difference.

I'd say it is a lease.

(btw - you CAN pay to loan players, you just pay a nominal fee, nothing close to the transfer value)

that is the new rumour though, that we do own him and that he's totally done with West ham/MSI, that we bought him on an agreed 18month contract (makes perfect sense under the circumstances with him having a torrid time in england to that point, short contract suited both parties), so he will become a free agent at the end of this summer if him and pool dont agree a new contract. Im sure they will though, he looks to be back to his pre=WH form both for club and country.

Mitch Connor

~Rebel~ wrote:

that is the new rumour though, that we do own him and that he's totally done with West ham/MSI, that we bought him on an agreed 18month contract (makes perfect sense under the circumstances with him having a torrid time in england to that point, short contract suited both parties), so he will become a free agent at the end of this summer if him and pool dont agree a new contract. Im sure they will though, he looks to be back to his pre=WH form both for club and country.

i suppose we won't really know til the summer, and as liverpool are private and do not have to disclose their transfer deals, we might never know the full story or the full fees.

jesus_thats_gre

The majority of reports that I have read are that he was got on an 18 month load with the option to buy for 10million sterling at the end. There was a rumour that Liverpool have exercised this option already as few months back. Either way, they are certainly not resting on their laurels and making sure they have enough options across the park in case a larger club tries to force our hand on a sale or a players decides to hold us to ransome. As a club, we need to make sure that we have no more Owen, Gerard or McMananaman fiascos.

Kimbot

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

The majority of reports that I have read are that he was got on an 18 month load with the option to buy for 10million sterling at the end. There was a rumour that Liverpool have exercised this option already as few months back. Either way, they are certainly not resting on their laurels and making sure they have enough options across the park in case a larger club tries to force our hand on a sale or a players decides to hold us to ransome. As a club, we need to make sure that we have no more Owen, Gerard or McMananaman fiascos.

Yeah 18 month loan with first option on a 10-12mill price tag is what it is from all reports.
I think Rafa is thinking ahead for teams for the future aswell which is a good sign as it shows he wants to be there for a long time!

Chardee MacDennis

18mth loan with option to buy is what i have heard but i heard his price is around £17m

Dont be at yourself

I reckon our formation next season will be something like:

Reina
Carragher-Agger
Gerrard-Lucas-Alonso-Macherano-Garcia-Sissoko-Bennayoun
Torres

Dont be at yourself

We also narrowly missed out on another defensive midfielder: the Valencia bound "Sunny' Stephen.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24072007/4/sunny-reveals-reds-offer.html

copacetic

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

We also narrowly missed out on another defensive midfielder: the Valencia bound "Sunny' Stephen.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24072007/4/sunny-reveals-reds-offer.html

thank god!

Never mind a team or carraghers we could field a team of defensive midfielders.

machiavellianme

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

I reckon our formation next season will be something like:

Reina
Carragher-Agger
Gerrard-Lucas-Alonso-Macherano-Garcia-Sissoko-Bennayoun
Torres

That formation mightnt be that bad. In theory the ball should never come back into our half with all that cover, so Agger and Carra could go sup tea on the sideline with Pepe. Unless of course, Agger wants to come forward and play up front with Torres seeing as he likes to score a few goals every now and then. Quick send it to Rafa, It's a flawless plan. Unless they play the long ball over us. Then we're ****ed!

Guess we're never gonna buy a much needed winger then?

On a side note: How are we supposed to keep track of all these threads? They're all over the main forum page.

Peyton Manning

Sunny will be a huge player in years to come, you heard it here. He has immense potential, could easily eclipse the likes of Vieira and Makelele if he fulfills it.

Dont be at yourself

I can't say I've seen any Segunda Division games to judge. I doubt he'll be get many games for Valencia with Albelda and Baraja hopefully fully fit.

darkskol

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

I reckon our formation next season will be something like:

Reina
Carragher-Agger
Gerrard-Lucas-Alonso-Macherano-Garcia-Sissoko-Bennayoun
Torres

All I can say is LOL

zAbbo

The daily mirror, ha.

rehashing last weeks news - http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/deportivo/es/desarrollo/1018393.html

event

Archimedes wrote:

Sunny will be a huge player in years to come, you heard it here. He has immense potential, could easily eclipse the likes of Vieira and Makelele if he fulfills it.

you play football manager too then?

zAbbo

I'd be willing to predict he doesn't eclipse Viera

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