Bouncer trouble

nesf

Cailinor wrote:

Well actually we do them a favour by giving them our custom that provokes the need for such a licence! favour my ass, irish pubs are making mean money out of us. i know i know taxes etc but it is incredible the prices we are charged for entry or a drink these days in dublin and ireland. it is pure exploitation.

It works both ways because of the nature of the business.

Dragan

Cailinor wrote:

Well actually we do them a favour by giving them our custom that provokes the need for such a licence! favour my ass, irish pubs are making mean money out of us. i know i know taxes etc but it is incredible the prices we are charged for entry or a drink these days in dublin and ireland. it is pure exploitation.

Hmmmm.....if somebody provides a service and the price is clearly explained to you and you choose to pay it, thats is hardly exploitation.

You are told at the door what the charge is, and drink prices should be clearly displayed.

Don't get me wrong, i feel the scene is very expensive as well, but the simple fact is that when i am going out i am accepting this and trading it against having a fun night.

The simple fact is that there are too many consumers who are willing to do what you do. Bitch about things but pay anyway. Either take the action you can take, which is avoid the scene or pubs you don't like, or put on your dancing shoes and get your I.D ready.

Black Swan

Cailinor wrote:

I was out on saturday night in the centre, and i had a bit of trouble with a bouncer...

Next time don't double dribble?

Cailinor

Dragan wrote:

Hmmmm.....if somebody provides a service and the price is clearly explained to you and you choose to pay it, thats is hardly exploitation.

Well i'd have to disagree, it doesn't matter that we know how much their service and price is, they are just blatently telling us how much they are exploiting us;)
and yeah we could go somewhere else, but there really isnt that much difference from pub to pub.
As a nation they tell us the price and we don't question it, grr! and sure i know what you're saying trading off for a fun night but it's not a fun week afterwards looking at your wallet!
Over the last year i have indeed been boycotting the pubs and clubs instead opting for more and more nights in with friends and drinks these days, but everynow and then you do need to get out there.

Dragan

Cailinor wrote:

As a nation they tell us the price and we don't question it, grr! and sure i know what you're saying trading off for a fun night but it's not a fun week afterwards looking at your wallet!

So don't spend as much?

Non of the issues you have brought up are really that difficult to control.

It like if you go into a shop the sells clothes. You are aware how much something costs and it's affect on your finances.

Why does alchohol and alchohol related socialising seem to differ?

tallus

Ahh dammit OP, I thought you were looking for Psybnc help

Cailinor

Dragan wrote:

So don't spend as much?

Non of the issues you have brought up are really that difficult to control.

It like if you go into a shop the sells clothes. You are aware how much something costs and it's affect on your finances.

Why does alchohol and alchohol related socialising seem to differ?

Well clothes are essential first of all:) you need to buy them! but with clothes you also have the option of going somewhere majorly expensive or seriously cheap, there are options and competition whereas with a night out, there is not really that much variation from place to place.

and i know i know i have a choice in how much i spend, but look all i am saying is that i do think prices are ridiculous in ireland for drinking. go abroad and you feel like a millionaire. sure even our homemade stuff such as baileys and whiskey are over half the price when you go away, it's just madness and a bit of a joke!

DemonOfTheFall

Write a letter to the owner/manager. Ring them a week later following it up and ask have the cautioned him. Let them know you won't be back if they haven't. Can't do much more than that.

A lot of bouncers are petty bástards who need a reality check to realise they're unskilled labour, not gods.

DemonOfTheFall

tallus wrote:

Ahh dammit OP, I thought you were looking for Psybnc help

I Lolled

BaZmO*

Cailinor wrote:

there are options and competition whereas with a night out, there is not really that much variation from place to place.

And the reason for that is because Irish people continue to put up with it by flocking to these places and spending their hard-earned (debatable) cash in spite of cráp service and extortionate prices.

It reminds of when Neil Young was touring a couple of years ago doing intimate gigs in small venues charging ridiculous amounts. Tickets in Ireland sold out within minutes, whereas in Germany the gigs were boycotted due to the cost of tickets. Now that's real people power.

arybvtcw0eolkf

OP I'll tell you how I work..

I'd have asked you not to take your drink outside too, all door staff will ask that.

You might have given the staff some attitude when you were asked to leave your drink inside (although you'll say you didn't). And I'll think to myself 'Well Marto, lets put some manners on this one when she attempts to come back in'

I've seen it happen so often 'excuse me, can you leave your drinks inside' ...<attitude>... and the punter leaves the drink in the porch. Seem's pretty innocent so far... Then drunken asshole walks out, knocks the drink over then I've a situation on my hands.

Now year's ago I'd have tried to be dipolmatic with all sides, now I couldn't be arsed. You've been asked to do something very simple and didn't, and now its either caused a situation or is likely to. So your out.

Dragan

Cailinor wrote:

and i know i know i have a choice in how much i spend, but look all i am saying is that i do think prices are ridiculous in ireland for drinking. go abroad and you feel like a millionaire. sure even our homemade stuff such as baileys and whiskey are over half the price when you go away, it's just madness and a bit of a joke!

Everything is expensive here. Have you not noticed that? From groceries to car insurance. You live in a country that taxes the **** our of everything.

If abroad is so great, then move abroad?

Dragan

BaZmO* wrote:

It reminds of when Neil Young was touring a couple of years ago doing intimate gigs in small venues charging ridiculous amounts. Tickets in Ireland sold out within minutes, whereas in Germany the gigs were boycotted due to the cost of tickets. Now that's real people power.

The same with [edited by me] only recently. I never fail to chuckle at people who complain while handing over the money.

BaZmO*

Was gonna mention her too but didn't for obvious reasons.

Dragan

BaZmO* wrote:

Was gonna mention her too but didn't for obvious reasons.

**** it, nice one. I can't keep up with who is looking after what these days.

AARRRGH

Cailinor wrote:

apparently i had been rude to him on the way out... lies lies lies.

Not trying to say you are like this, but I know loads of people who think they're really nice and sweet but in fact they are totally unaware of their aggressive/rude/domineering behaviour.

Question: is your mother or father rude?

Sadly, a lot of people seem to have their parents worst traits without realising it...

Degsy

People dont need to swear or raise thier voices in order to appear rude..in fact they dont have to say anything at all.A sneer,a contemptuous look or the classic "look up and down" are all things that will cause offence to somebody.Personally i find the repeating what somebody has just said with a disbelieving inflection pisses me off.."You want me to leave my drink outside??"

Cailinor

dublindude wrote:

Not trying to say you are like this, but I know loads of people who think they're really nice and sweet but in fact they are totally unaware of their aggressive/rude/domineering behaviour.

Question: is your mother or father rude?

Sadly, a lot of people seem to have their parents worst traits without realising it...

No neither of my parents are at all rude. I have never seen them ever emit any signs of rudeness, they're too good to be true, i swear!

and no i am not subconciously rude or anything like that, in fact i am full of good manners, can't shake it off, even with the people that are closest to me, it's been drilled into me from a young age. so no i am 99.9999% positive that i didn't do anything that could have been construed as rudeness.

and sure i was practically back in the door and i think i would have had no problems had i not asked him about my drink.

Also i was talking to some people last night, and apparently they've experienced fairly similar problems with <snip>, and these people would be the sweetest, most polite people that you could come across!

Terry

cailinor, please do not mention the venue.
Boards.ie is having enough legal problems as it is.

Cailinor

Dragan wrote:

Everything is expensive here. Have you not noticed that? From groceries to car insurance. You live in a country that taxes the **** our of everything.

If abroad is so great, then move abroad?

of course i noticed that, how can you not! but for this particular forum, i was just talking about the expense of the nightlife.
and listen all i said about being abroad was cheap drink, nothing more

BaZmO*

Cailinor wrote:

and no i am not subconciously rude

How do you know you're not if it's subconscious?

Cailinor

BaZmO* wrote:

How do you know you're not if it's subconscious?

Good question:)

I'm not a schizo, so i couldn't act that differently from my normal self without knowing it i suppose;)

thefinalstage

Cailinor wrote:

Good question:)

I'm not a schizo, so i couldn't act that differently from my normal self without knowing it i suppose;)

Unless you are a schizophrenic and its your other personality that got the medication!