Gun Laws

2347

Hi could some one tell me whats legal and whats ilegal. Like are pistols legal, how do I get one and can i keep a pistol in my home?
Are .45's legal. Do I need to be part of a gun club to own a firearm? at what age can I get a gun?


I know this forum is full of info but any info in laymans terms would be great


Thank you

2347

Sorry I live in Dublin if that makes a difference

Our man in Havana

Ok, You have to be at least 16 to own a firearm in Ireland.
I don't honestly know if a superintendant will grant a FAC for a 45 pistol. If you are looking for a pistol you will most probably have to join a pistol club and have a gun safe and a monitored alarm system.

2347

Thanks

What kind of limits are there like how many guns can you have and what kinds of gun you can have?

Rovi

2347 wrote:

What kind of limits are there like how many guns can you have and what kinds of gun you can have?

None at all. Both criteria are at the discretion of the Gardai.

2347

Rovi wrote:

None at all. Both criteria are at the discretion of the Gardai.

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

Alanstrainor

2347 wrote:

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

Wow, What kind of an assault are you planning here:rolleyes:

Rovi

2347 wrote:

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

Yes to all of the above. Good luck persuading your Superintendent to issue the Certs.

rrpc

2347 wrote:

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

No, you couldn't have an assault rifle or a .50 rifle. There is no good reason to have either, so no licence would be issued.

Not having a licence for a .50, you couldn't get armour piercing bullets. In fact you couldn't get them for any calibre because you wouldn't be able to show good reason for having them.

However if you did have them it's a €10,000 fine and up to ten years in jail.

Sorry for all the boring legal stuff, but that's just how it is.

Clare gunner

Not quite,there are plenty of good reasons for owning a semi auto rifle.Military looking or not.
Not an assault rifle as that is a slective fire weapon,which is coverd under the 1925 act.

AP is deffo illegal here or anywhere else,and outside the military impossible to get.Have seen a few deact rounds.But a 50 cal rifle could be got IF you have an understanding Super and about a mile and a half of clear terrain to fire it on.

freddieot

My advice is to start with a .22 bolt action rifle. Last time I looked we were not at war. Can't understand why anyone would want a 50 or an assault rifle. Maybe for specialised target use but I remain to be convinced.

I think all Supers, asked for something like that by anyone who had not been shooting for years and could prove a legitimate purpose, would be refusing everything for that individual fullstop, come what may..

The tone I take from this, maybe I'm wrong and if so I apologise, is that this query may be more about self defence or somethig like that rather than an interest in target shooting or hunting.

Clare gunner

Lets get it right Freddie. an Assault rifle is illegal here because it is a select fire weapon capable of full auto fire.
A semi auto military lookalike,is not illegal here and there are plenty of good reasons to own one. Just off the top of my head,being left handed is one,as there are damn few bolt actions made in left handed configs.

I sound abit anal about this,but we have got to start being correct in our terminology to counter the nonsense the media and antis put out.I am fed up of hearing this urban myth that machine guns can be bought over the counter in the USA .This comes about that no one corrects this at any time.
Lets start describing things as they really are.:)

Dvs

2347 wrote:

Hi could some one tell me whats legal and whats ilegal. Like are pistols legal, how do I get one and can i keep a pistol in my home?
Are .45's legal. Do I need to be part of a gun club to own a firearm? at what age can I get a gun?


I know this forum is full of info but any info in laymans terms would be great


Thank you

Hello 2347,
welcome to the shooting forum.

I have a few questions for you:
How old are you?
Do you have an interest in taking up sport shooting as a hobby?

Do you want to have a .45 because,
you think it might be cool if you whip it out in the bedroom at home,
or do you have a legitimate reason for wanting one?

your question about

2347 wrote:

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

Is the kind of thing the anti shooting brigade really love to hear,
because it makes us all look like lunatics.

If you have questions related to sport shooting please feel free to ask them,
other forum members will do their best to answer them.

If you have an genuine interest in taking up shooting sports,
go to a shooting club talk to the people there, about the various shooting disciplines and find out if its a hobby for you.

If not,
I understand that Grand Theft Auto and the Socom Navy Seals video games, offer fantasy role playing with various firearms in a safe virtual reality setting.




If I come across as a grumpy old git...







it's only because I am.

Dvs.

rrpc

Clare gunner wrote:

Lets get it right Freddie. an Assault rifle is illegal here because it is a select fire weapon capable of full auto fire.
A semi auto military lookalike,is not illegal here and there are plenty of good reasons to own one. Just off the top of my head,being left handed is one,as there are damn few bolt actions made in left handed configs.

There are plenty of semis around that aren't military lookalikes, and in any case stock design can mitigate against left handers as well. Not saying you couldn't have another reason to own one just that the left-handed argument wouldn't stand up to serious scrutiny.

Dvs

I have a feeling you may be right, some of the answers here were a bit to loose for my liking. People shouldn't be saying 'you can have anything you want' when that is patently not the case.

harmoniums

get a ruger 1022, nice customisable rifle with lots of aftermarket add-ons, military stocks, high cap mags etc.
It's a .22 rifle so it might be easier to get by your super

heres some examples of what you can do
http://www.gunaccessories.com/1022/stocks.asp

oh yeah and if you want full auto functionality, just learn how to bump fire!

2347

Dvs wrote:

Hello 2347,
welcome to the shooting forum.

I have a few questions for you:
How old are you?
Do you have an interest in taking up sport shooting as a hobby?

Do you want to have a .45 because,
you think it might be cool if you whip it out in the bedroom at home,
or do you have a legitimate reason for wanting one?

Dvs.

I'm 22 and I don't want a .45 or an assault rifle I am just wondering what is legal here because last I heard all guns where illegal and it came as a surprise when I heard pistols were legal.
I am interested in sport shooting and have found a club near me that i will join once I have the money.
The only gun I will ever consider getting is maybe a small shotgun and I probably won't get one anyway.

tuxy

2347 wrote:

I am interested in sport shooting and have found a club near me that i will join once I have the money.

For sport shooting it would be best to start with a 12 gauge shotgun or .22lr rifle.
I'm surprised you used to think all guns are illegal here. Have you never heard of someone hunting rabbits,foxes,ducks,pheasants in Ireland?
It's really just a case of convincing your local super intendant that you have a legitimate reason for owning the gun. Being a member of a club or shooting range is one. Or having some land where you have permission to shoot on is another.
Once you don't have a criminal record there is a good chance your licence request will be accepted.

Our man in Havana

harmoniums wrote:

get a ruger 1022, nice customisable rifle with lots of aftermarket add-ons, military stocks, high cap mags etc.
It's a .22 rifle so it might be easier to get by your super

heres some examples of what you can do
http://www.gunaccessories.com/1022/stocks.asp

oh yeah and if you want full auto functionality, just learn how to bump fire!

Are those mods legal?

tuxy

Don't know about the legality but they all look tacky.

Leupold

2347 wrote:

That's good so in theory I could have an assault rifle and a .50 rifle.

One last question what about ammo could I have armor piercing bullets for a .50 rifle? I wouldn't want one I am just interested in knowing.

2347 is taking the Mick. It is obvious from the above.I suspect that he/she is anti gun and would like some nice "out of context" quotes to use

Our man in Havana

Leupold wrote:

2347 is taking the Mick. It is obvious from the above.I suspect that he/she is anti gun and would like some nice "out of context" quotes to use

I dunno tbh.Maybe he/she is genuine?

bullets

Bond-007 wrote:

I dunno tbh.Maybe he/she is genuine?

I at first thought the newbie was an anti shooting person trying
to bait us and wanted us to say something stupid so it could be twisted
and used in the media. My other thoughts was that it maybe some kid
who wanted to get a handgun. When OP posted replied with their age
and a reason/reply to earlier questions I became undetermined.

after the whole galway races and airsoft thing where there
were antis posting story's about airsoft guns being illegal guns and
that they could be used to kill cats dogs and birds.
I became paranoid that someone may start posting here to see
if they could provoke something from shooters that could be used to show shooters in a negative manner in the media.

When OP posted it was kinda weird and the only joined/registered this Month the user name seemed odd with just numbers.
and the only posts were on this board. Right around the time where
there were some shooters and airsofters giving it welly over at that
crap indymedia.ie site.

2347 if you are genuine apologess and I am not saying you are not
but I get parnoid when someone totally new start coming on here talking about handguns and 50cal firearms out of the blue it sends alarm bells ringing.

(I would love the chance someday to fire a 50cal at over a mile!!!
but I reckon not for a long time in Ireland)

~B

Clare gunner

Bond-007 wrote:

Are those mods legal?

Oh Yes ..Very legal..:D ,why you would want some of them as they make shooting more difficult is another reason.

On the indymedia shi..e site.We have that John Ronan,apprentaly an ex hunter accusing shooters and hunters of all sorts of sexual perversities.He apprently was an ex hunter gunowner,who now seems to be suffering from delusional religious fantasies.He advocates shooters to "throw away their guns".As he sawed up his one night after choking up on having to kill a little bunny wabbitt.[Gosh! I feel all soft and mushy inside...sniff].He was the last poster that flamed here as well.
So I can concur with Bullets on this one that the Nature Nazis are trying to fight dirty here.
And apologies to 2347 as well,but we are getting a little suss around here,understandbly.

the hunter

2347 if you are genuine apologess and I am not saying you are not
but I get parnoid when someone totally new start coming on here talking about handguns and 50cal firearms out of the blue it sends alarm bells ringing.

(I would love the chance someday to fire a 50cal at over a mile!!!
but I reckon not for a long time in Ireland)

~B[/QUOTE]


your not the only one getting a bit siss bullets you would think if someone was interested in shooting they would look into the sport first .. although a friend of mine told me he was into the shooting scene for years (his father was) and knew everything about it the asked why was i using a .22 for rabbits that it was to big and i should be using a shot gun .. then went on to tell me handguns were illegal in ireland and that they always will be ???? so it takes all sorts ...