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Low Content - Settle an argument please.

  • 05-08-2007 5:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭


    Can you give your honest opinion on this please. Just vote which player you would rather have in your side.

    Its just to settle an argument.

    Opr

    Which player would you rather have in your side ? 29 votes

    Darren Fletcher
    0% 0 votes
    Mohamed Sissoko
    100% 29 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Richard Dunne for sure.

    ...whats this about again? :)


    EDIT: Fletcher has the edge cos he can pick a pass or thru ball. But Sissoko has potential to be so much better if he adds goals or passing or both to his game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    how on earth can anything said here settle an argument.

    For a pure DM role, and tough tackling, would have to be Sissoko.

    Fletcher is a good squad player - never stops going. Good when you wnat to keep the oppoition midfielders under pressure.Tackling ability is not as good as Sissoko though, he is a better passer mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    is this a serious question? i would prefer 99.999% of prem players in my squad than fergies love child...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Fletcher is often slated for no real reason. On his day he can pass with the best, and pops up with the odd goal.

    Sissoko is good if you are looking to break people up. Those looong legs often get him in trouble alot. He is clumbsy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,772 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    Sissoko is one of the most overrated players going

    he's shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's a decent player IMO

    not that im saying Fletcher is good either


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    Voted Fletcher as he can play in more positions I think and Conor O'Grady can do the job that Sissoko is best at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,081 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    p_larkin99 wrote:
    Sissoko is one of the most overrated players going

    he's shown absolutely nothing to suggest he's a decent player IMO

    not that im saying Fletcher is good either

    Absolutely nothing with those man of the match performances against Chelsea and Barcelona. was terrible when he won the MotM award in the demolition of Birmingham in his first game back from long term injury. Being the best athlete most have ever seen on the football pitch of course counts for nought as well. Not to mention that he's obviously been working very hard on his passing which has steadily improved in preseason this year. when we dismiss him for his poor passing lets just forget that it was actually better a year and a half ago before he almost lost his sight in one eye from a kick to the face.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭wanabe


    Sissoko without i doubt! he seems to be improving all the time where as Fletcher seems to be exactly the same since he made his debut, just average! thats my opinion anyways!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,847 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    IMO you'll never get a fair answer as there is too many Liverpool "lets fight the fight" fans in here, and Man Utd fans who'll retaliate to that and more...but thats what makes it so good tho eh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    This is a bit of a silly idea for a thread regardless of reasons. Sissoko though if I'm forced to choose between two below-par players.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    wanabe wrote:
    Sissoko without i doubt! he seems to be improving all the time where as Fletcher seems to be exactly the same since he made his debut, just average! thats my opinion anyways!
    I think that is unfair on fletcher.

    I freakin hated fletcher for his first couple of seasons - but over the last two years i think he has improved a lot. I still don't think he is good enough to be a first choice player for United BUT I understand that A squad can not be made up of first choice players. Fletcher never stops running, is very good at closing down space and has good positional sense. His passing is pretty good, occasionally very very good. I know he is limited - short on pace, won't beat a man with skill and is unlikely to get you many goals - but as i say, he is a very good squad player. He has turned from a player i never wanted to see in a united kit at all, ever, to a player i appreciate, one that does contribute to the team. I remember at the start of last seaason he was one of our best performers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,081 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I know im biased but being honest i would go with Sissoko for 2 reasons. He has he potential to develope into one of the best, and right now, he's one of the best in the game in his particular role of destroyer. Its not pretty and some would say its not even really football, but he makes a massive difference to a side. Fletcher meanwhile is an all round decent player. He looks much better for scotland then for Man U imo. I see him as more of a jack of all trades, but i could never see him developing into a top class player. Really to answer this it would be better to know who else is in the team in question as they are different players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    ~Rebel~ wrote:
    I know im biased but being honest i would go with Sissoko for 2 reasons. He has he potential to develope into one of the best, and right now, he's one of the best in the game in his particular role of destroyer. Its not pretty and some would say its not even really football, but he makes a massive difference to a side. Fletcher meanwhile is an all round decent player. He looks much better for scotland then for Man U imo. I see him as more of a jack of all trades, but i could never see him developing into a top class player. Really to answer this it would be better to know who else is in the team in question as they are different players.
    I'd agree with your analysis of Fletcher - he is the type of player a squad needs. He will never be top class, but the effort he puts in to the his game is commendable, and that effort is often needed. IMO, he is very like Sissoko, or Flamini - a player, that while not awesome, will always give 100% and will do whatever is asked of him to the best of his ability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    I`m a Utd fan but I would choose Sissoko... but it was a tough choice as I rate Fletcher highly. He has definitely improved a lot since his debut and unlike other former utd youngsters (greening, chadwick) he has grown into the utd squad and is a good player to have around. A lot of ppl give him a hard time but the reality is that they are looking at it through blinkered eyes and cannot see his improvement.

    But I still chose Sissoko because I think he has the potential to be a great player. At the moment he is one of the best defensive midfielders around when the opposition has the ball. Of course sometimes he gets in trouble with the ref but that is a trade off that you have to expect for a good DM. His problem is that his distribution is usually bad. But he is also quite young and I think once he grows more into his role and matures as a footballer it will bet better. He will realise that all he needs to do is play the easy balls and let more creative players take over. And he has a great engine on him which is another bonus.

    So I chose Sissoko because he has the potential to be a better player than Fletcher imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Whats with these threads that pop up all the time comparing 2 players that perform in 2 completely different roles? Who's better, Carragher or Gerrard, Neville or Giggs etc etc. you can only really compare players that play similar positions or styles, outside of that and your pretty much talking about who is more important to the team they play for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I dunno, it's like asking what would you prefer, "Syphilis or Gonorrhoea?"

    Two very average players , one can pass and tackle to very average level and the other can tackle but give the ball away like it's a prerequisite to signing on the dotted line.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    woooo232 wrote:
    I`m a Utd fan but I would choose Sissoko... but it was a tough choice as I rate Fletcher highly. He has definitely improved a lot since his debut and unlike other former utd youngsters (greening, chadwick) he has grown into the utd squad and is a good player to have around. A lot of ppl give him a hard time but the reality is that they are looking at it through blinkered eyes and cannot see his improvement.

    But I still chose Sissoko because I think he has the potential to be a great player. At the moment he is one of the best defensive midfielders around when the opposition has the ball. Of course sometimes he gets in trouble with the ref but that is a trade off that you have to expect for a good DM. His problem is that his distribution is usually bad. But he is also quite young and I think once he grows more into his role and matures as a footballer it will bet better. He will realise that all he needs to do is play the easy balls and let more creative players take over. And he has a great engine on him which is another bonus.

    So I chose Sissoko because he has the potential to be a better player than Fletcher imo.
    A United fan with the same avatar as smemon... unlucky!

    Sissoko for me. He's a better player now and he's got a much higher ceiling in terms of how good he can become.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I wouldn't want Sissoko in a United team because he is the style of player that I think represents ugly ugly football. That said, as a destructive player, he is top class. However, he can't do anything with the ball at all once he gets it so he kinda limits your team a little to 10 players when you are attacking. He is more likely to make you draw than lose or win imo.
    That said, I'd probably pick him over Fletcher, however I do feel Fletcher has a similar potential to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    A United fan with the same avatar as smemon... unlucky!

    When I find out who or what smemon is I'll start worrying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭Andrew 83


    Sissoko


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Definately Momo.

    I see whree you're coming from PHB about the style of football he represents but to be honest, top teams always need a player similar to him in their side IMO.
    Perhaps if Utds midfield hada bit of steal in it, they would cope better when they meet decent sides in Europe?

    Plus his passing is not as bad as its being made out to be.
    He hits some bud passes and takes some strange touches, but in fairness he plays alongside two of the best passers of the ball in the world with Gerrard and Alonso.So its obviously hard for him to impress in the passing stakes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Definately Momo.

    I see whree you're coming from PHB about the style of football he represents but to be honest, top teams always need a player similar to him in their side IMO.
    Perhaps if Utds midfield hada bit of steal in it, they would cope better when they meet decent sides in Europe?

    Indeed, it's why Hargreaves was bought. Sissoko is an extreme case though. Hargreaves, Mascherano, Gattuso all perform a similar job without the shocking passing ability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    I just wouldn't write Sissoko off, he is better at breaking up play that all the other midfielders you mentioned, plus he is younger than all (possibly not Mascherano?), if he learns to pass the ball decently, he will be the best midfielder of his type in the world.

    In case he doesn't, we now have Mascherano


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    defo sissoko for me every day of the week. If fletcher was with liverpool he would be lucky to play a carling cup match.


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