Bring back degsy...

tallaght01

RoundyMooney wrote:

We noticed.

Lol. feck off, ya dirtbox :P

roundymooney wrote:

If togster were female, I'd say she was one of Degsy's five girlfriends.

I just read that post. I'm not familiar with togster's work, but that was funny, in fairness

6th

tbh wrote:

Are you talking about The Thunderdome or Paranormal? (you take my point, right?)

No I dont, many of the regulars visit loads of forums on Boards.

RoundyMooney

I don't see any difference in terms of interaction with other boards to be honest.

Unlike tCN where there are many posters who remain there in perpetuity, I can only think of one thunderdome poster who pretty much remains there, at least as far as authoring posts outside of the forum goes.

As regards its original purpose, the dome no longer fulfils that function, it has been taken over by four or five dedicated posters who, despite how much fun they think they're having, are contributing nothing.

I think it has much greater potential than that, and always have done. The thread hijacking has to stop, and the forum opened up. It's a common misconception that the dome has to be about insulting the poster before, coming up with references to paedophilia and toilets, and such and such.

It can be many things, none of which need to be negative.

lucernarian

What do you think it should be?? I think a place where people can shout their mouths off on boards is a good idea. I rarely go near the forum so it holds little of my opinion, but whatever changes are proposed, I think personal insults should still be allowed.

Degsy posting disgusting porn is not on. Seeing as it's illegal, the siteban was justified. He'll be back to entertain the good readers of that forum no doubt.

RoundyMooney

To_be_confirmed wrote:

What do you think it should be?? I think a place where people can shout their mouths off on boards is a good idea.

A place where people can shout their mouths off. Among others things of course.

Ergo, a rollback to it's original purpose, as more or less a sinbin, but with the facility for posters to continue a debate there, from elsewhere. Let the insult thread or whatever that has become remain as is, it seems that's what some people want.

To_be_confirmed wrote:

I rarely go near the forum so it holds little of my opinion, but whatever changes are proposed, I think personal insults should still be allowed.

I don't either, but I fully agree that the principle behind the 'dome is as valid as it ever has been, and yes, insults (even the ones under discussion) are a part of that. The only situation that negates that rule has come up before, where megathreads have (with or without some reason) been targeted directly at certain users of the site. These were allowed to meander, in retrospect for too long, and should be avoided in the future. I suppose what I'm getting at, is leave the shit and feathers fly, as long as its mutual.

To_be_confirmed wrote:

Degsy posting disgusting porn is not on. Seeing as it's illegal, the siteban was justified. He'll be back to entertain the good readers of that forum no doubt.

In the interest of fairness, it wasn't porn per se, but silly and retch inducing for all that.

faceman

seamus wrote:

:rolleyes:

Look, if you walked into a pub and didn't see a "Please don't **** on the floor" sign, would you think that makes it OK to drop your cacks and crimp off a loaf onto the tiles? When you're being thrown out on the street, would you complain that they never said you couldn't?

there are laws in place in this country that govern that so no establishment needs to forewarn punters. You can also be arrested for saying some of the things that get said in the thunderdome, yet no one bats an eyelid in thunderdome until now.

as much as i dont want to see anyone take a poo in a photo or in real life, togster has a point.

i wonder how that picture would have faired in the S&S forum?????

Boston

faceman wrote:

i wonder how that picture would have faired in the S&S forum?????

Yes, because that forum is full of scat pictures. Theres like a charter that like, erm, clearly outlines like you know, the circumstances under which graphic images can be posted.

RoundyMooney

Indeed.

The sexual proclivities attached to an image of some bloke squeezing out a Cleveland Steamer on a golfing green somewhere are lost on me, as the general consensus on boards.ie would appear to agree.

To post such an image is one thing, but to expect it to be accepted with no further comment on any fora here is ridiculous.

John Mason

i cant believe that little old degs, has got such a debate going. i like the thunderdome, i dont think it should be changed. its great when you have had a rubbish day and just want to scream abuse at someone

6th

So when a thread is moved there (say the least favourite poster one) you get a regular in there saying:

Degsy wrote:

What bollocks is this you bunch of nonces?

which turns it into an extension of the Insult Thread. Can a thread not just continue on its course without some subhuman moron dragging it down to his level because its the only way he can be involved?

Maybe those opposed to the hijacking should just start reporting off topic posts and you the means available to us to try put a stop to it?

faceman

Boston wrote:

Yes, because that forum is full of scat pictures. Theres like a charter that like, erm, clearly outlines like you know, the circumstances under which graphic images can be posted.

exactly

randylonghorn

RoundyMooney wrote:

Unlike tCN where there are many posters who remain there in perpetuity

Tbh, I can't think of one tCN regular who doesn't post in other fora. Several regulars are mods, one is an SMod ...

tCN may not be a "serious" forum in any sense ... its purpose is for a bit of light-hearted pishtaking / de-stressing / escapism, without the vitriol that seems to characterise the 'Dome a lot of the time, but that certainly doesn't mean its regulars can't hold their own outside its padded walls!

And they don't seem to feel the need to shit on their own doorstep either ... ¬_¬

Heisenberg.

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John Mason

i accept the fact that everyone single thread turns into the same thing but leave the insult thread as it is and maybe just mod the other other threads that are put there

randylonghorn

The Scientist wrote:

Matt Holck!

Lol ... ok, I guess Matt is probably the closest to a Nester who doesn't wander, all right, I'd forgotten him ... but even Matt has clocked up 85 posts in other fora!

At the other extreme, Ruu has over 20 thousand posts elsewhere ...

tbh

6th wrote:

which turns it into an extension of the Insult Thread. Can a thread not just continue on its course without some subhuman moron dragging it down to his level because its the only way he can be involved?

That wouldn't be directed at degsy would it 6th? Cause, like, that's personal abuse. There's irony here somewhere..

RoundyMooney

I frequent the place as little as possible (it's not my thing), but I see far far more activity from some posters there, that I do not see outside of the nest.

It seems that, for said regulars therein, postcount would indicate that they formerly posted at length outside the forum, and may well do so again, but while they are dedicated nesters, it is to the exclusion of most posting activity elsewhere on the site.

There are at least five I can think of that haven't posted prolifically outside there in at least a year. I could use super sekrit mod powahs to find out more, but...

...please don't make me trawl through the forum for examples, I assure you I wouldn't enjoy it

irishbird wrote:

i accept the fact that everyone single thread turns into the same thing but leave the insult thread as it is and maybe just mod the other other threads that are put there

me wrote:

Let the insult thread or whatever that has become remain as is, it seems that's what some people want.

tbh wrote:

That wouldn't be directed at degsy would it 6th? Cause, like, that's personal abuse. There's irony here somewhere..

I think 6th could well be a frequent poster in the dome, under a new regime. Think of all the steam he could blow off

Come on 6th, you know you'd love it.

FlutterinBantam

What the blazes is goin on here.????

Don't tell me Degsy's "PooPic "was directed at me??

I wouldn't expect a pic of a geezer layin cable to be acceptable on Boards.

I would have posted loads if I thought I would get away with it. I knew i wouldn't!!

Degs lost the head there,but he'll be back.

T/Dome needs a shake up in truth,gettin stale,and repetitive.

leave the insult Thread as it is and try to keep the others on topic with a light mod touch which would encourage others to take part.Good robust exchanges.

I wouldnt like to see it become like tCN which has become a clique and people have been banned from there with no reason given,or no reply to pm's.
There would appear to different rules for different people in there ,which is not right.

Sarky

I'm surprised anyone noticed he was gone. There are plenty more people posting exactly the same thing at which to yawn and shake our colective heads while wondering vaguely where it all went wrong for the species, before heading off to a forum with better content. Like After Hours on its worst day.

randylonghorn

RoundyMooney wrote:

I frequent the place as little as possible (it's not my thing), but I see far far more activity from some posters there, that I do not see outside of the nest.

Quite possibly. I suspect one could say the same for most fora on boards?

RoundyMooney wrote:

There are at least five I can think of that haven't posted prolifically outside there in at least a year. I could use super sekrit mod powahs to find out more, but...

...please don't make me trawl through the forum for examples, I assure you I wouldn't enjoy it

I wouldn't dream of making you (or anyone else!) do anything ... personally, I'm a great believer in letting everyone do their own thing, provided what they're doing isn't causing harm or offence to anyone else.

I would be somewhat surprised if you were correct, however. Leaving aside The Scientist's nominee above, who probably is fairly close to the profile you identified in your original sideswipe, the people I encounter regularly in the Nest have interests as varied as poker, martial arts, creative writing, online gaming / computers generally, surfing, photography, etc. etc. ... and frequent the related fora here on boards. To what extent they have been posting on, as opposed to browsing, those fora recently, I really have no idea. Several of the regulars are mods, and then of course there is the omnipresent Ruu, who I strongly suspect must have contributed to every forum existing on Boards at this stage!

For that matter, let us for a moment postulate that your original hypothesis was correct, and that there are a significant number of tCN regulars who post exclusively on that forum only. Would it matter? Would they be any less valuable members of this community than those who post only on Poker, or Soccer, or indeed Hobby Radio or Aviation & Aircraft? ... or, indeed, than those who post prolifically on many fora?

RoundyMooney

To be honest, I never suggested they weren't.

You seem to be interpreting my train of thought as criticism of the cuckoos nest, which isn't my intention. It was someone else who alluded to thunderdome posters as "sad bastards" for not posting outside the forum, a hypothesis which is not based on fact in the first place as there is only one, out of about six or so daily posters there. (I personally think TTD would be far more active were it not for the rut it has fallen into). My post that you commented on initially drew attention to the fact that tCN draws far more dedicated poster behaviour, which I hold it does*, not that because people don't post elsewhere, they have some sort of dysfunction...

Anyway, debating the merits of the nest is a debate for another day,and tbh one I don't really want to get into.


*I'm not going to name names here, but I can count a fair few this morning, most or all of whose last twenty or so posts have been there.

togster

Roundy i do not see the relevance of your above post to the argument as a whole. This thread was started to highlight the fact that a poster was banned for something that i didn't know was a banning offence. Granted i have learnt the errors of my way. Why does it matter if someone only posts there? Everyone to their own and all that. I think the thunderdrome is a great place however i agree with 6th in that most threads are hijacked and ran off topic. To the posters who say that not everthing has to be written down to ensure appropriate behaviour i too agree. My point was that the absence of a charter "suggests" an absence of rules.

RoundyMooney

The thunderdome debate has continued on the other thread, and I have followed it there.

I wasn't the one who berated posters for not posting elsewhere. I don't give a monkeys where anyone posts, to be quite honest, and that is the basic point I'm getting at.

[edit to add]

You have achieved one good thing with this thread togster, in that you've (whether you meant to or not) kicked off something that I'm glad to see in the limelight once again, ergo, the thunderdome itself and how it can be improved.

randylonghorn

RoundyMooney wrote:

To be honest, I never suggested they weren't.

You seem to be interpreting my train of thought as criticism of the cuckoos nest, which isn't my intention. It was someone else who alluded to thunderdome posters as "sad bastards" for not posting outside the forum, a hypothesis which is not based on fact in the first place as there is only one, out of about six or so daily posters there. (I personally think TTD would be far more active were it not for the rut it has fallen into). My post that you commented on initially drew attention to the fact that tCN draws far more dedicated poster behaviour, which I hold it does*, not that because people don't post elsewhere, they have some sort of dysfunction....

Fair enough ... just I have noticed over the last few months a propensity to take snide sideswipes at tCN in the middle of totally different discussions, often on Feedback ... as if those who post in the Nest were in some way intellectually inferior!

Guess it finally became a itch that needed scratching last night ... ¬_¬

In all fairness, I have no idea whether any of those comments originated with you, Roundy, so if you just happened to be the unlucky straw, apologies!

RoundyMooney wrote:

*I'm not going to name names here, but I can count a fair few this morning, most or all of whose last twenty or so posts have been there.

Ah ... now THAT could be very true, I will admit ... the nature of some of the tCN threads, e.g. Word Association, 3 a.m. Club, etc. is that one could easily generate 20 posts there in an hour (one of the reasons why postcount is disabled in that forum, quite correctly imo) ... especially if a bit of slagging gets going.

Anyway ... the bit of rare sunshine beckons, so ...

DeVore

The Cuckcoo's Nest is great, I love the way it works and its just as I intended it. I wish I had given as much thought to the ThunderDome but I didnt and I need to. It is to be a place of deregulated freedom but that in itself needs regulation if it is to fit in around here. The original post where I explained its purpose would be a good read for many people as what it as degenerated into is not what I intended it to be, which is my fault.

DeV.

challengemaster

FlutterinBantam wrote:

I wouldnt like to see it become like tCN which has become a clique and people have been banned from there with no reason given,or no reply to pm's.
There would appear to different rules for different people in there ,which is not right.

well.. I mean if you're stupid enough to post in something labeled

Sticky Thread Sticky: Post in this thread to get permanently banned. (EXTREME STUPIDITY FILTER)

and not expect to be banned.. :rolleyes:

RoundyMooney wrote:

*I'm not going to name names here, but I can count a fair few this morning, most or all of whose last twenty or so posts have been there.

uh huh.. to be honest, I'm one of them. But when you dont go to bed, and there's nothing but shíte/uninteresting stuff/ something you dont want to comment on, in the other fora... what else to do - but post a lot of shíte in the place you certainly wont get banned for it. Makes sense, no?

tCN is fun.. and you say there's a clique.. not really.. we're more just a group of people that are accustomed to eachother, and looking for a good laugh..

Terry

Ah jaysis, don't be blaming youself.

Anyway, good old google.

DeVore wrote:

Ok. I've created two new forums:

The Cuckoo's Nest is alt.stupid for Boards. Fill it full of stupidity and surreality and idiocy. It will serve as a lightening rod for the rest of us to be free of you.
Seriously, its going to be very lightly moderated and is for silly discussions and polls and what have you. Posts there will NOT contribute to your post count and it wont show up on the front page.
I'm looking for suitably silly people (two of them) to moderate it.

The Thunderdome is basically the "back of the bike sheds" for Boards. If you are having right old ding dong battle with someone and its p|ssing off the rest of the forum, the mod can move the thread to the Thunderdome and you can continue your "debate" there.

Be warned. There are NO RULES beyond the state's common law in there. Anything goes that is legal. The site's standard civility rules are not in play. It will be unmoderated except for the admins and there will be no warnings for transgressions of the law. Your account will simply be completely suspended.

You cant *create* threads there you (and others) can only reply to them. They dont count towards post count and they dont show up on the front page. Basically if you want to have a right old barny with someone then take it somewhere that the rest of us arent annoyed by it. Then rip into each other as you see fit.
You may NOT repeat NOT harrass someone on the site to "meet you there" etc. What goes on in there stays in there. The rest of us dont care and referring to it, or badgering someone to reply there will get you banned.


Mods, please note the two new options you have for dealing with problem threads. Stupid crap to The Cuckoo's Next and aggressive fights to The Thunderdome.


Enjoy!

DeV.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=198707

RoundyMooney

Randy, not a bother. I certainly never took your post as having a go, as it were, and certainly no apology is necessary. In fact, as forums go, tCN is light years ahead of what the dome has become

Tom, you can hardly hold yourself accountable for the actions of the masses, or the way fora swing over the years. I'm glad you seem to concur that something needs to be done.

Can someone help a lazy git out, and link to the post DeV is referring to? Ta.

[Edit]: Good man Terry.

To the poster above, who certainly can't be accused of spending all his time in tCN;

FlutterinBantam did not post in the ban thread thingumabob, at least not to my knowledge.

I have no problem with tCN, as previously indicated. Do I get it? No. Do I want to? No.

I didn't say there was a "clique" either, at least not in this context.

regi

Er, sorry, didn't see this.

First of all, thought it was AH, not ttd. Anyway, I'd like a situation where in places like ttd and tCN, we're much looser on what's said, but I never want a situation where someone (registered or unregistered) can click on a link like:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=WHATEVER

and what appears on the screen is a picture entirely unsuitable for school, work - whatever. It'll drag down all of boards. You know the way some of you can't read boards from work? This is why.

Can anyone give me a good reason why we should allow an innocuous looking boards.ie link (such as http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055131085&page=3) should immediately show you a NSFW picture?

Lastly, I didn't permaban because I know degsy is a good guy and a good poster. Sorry I didn't PM you degsy - I was a bit late for work and subsequently forgot about it till now. However, I'll ban anyone (Anyone!) who posts pictures like that embedding in pages on boards.

challengemaster

RoundyMooney wrote:

To the poster above, who certainly can't be accused of spending all his time in tCN;

FlutterinBantam did not post in the ban thread thingumabob, at least not to my knowledge.

I have no problem with tCN, as previously indicated. Do I get it? No. Do I want to? No.

I didn't say there was a "clique" either, at least not in this context.

hm.. well i dont recall anyone being banned pointlessly.. then again.. i wouldnt put it past amp

I know you didnt say there was a clique.. i was referring to FB with that