Obama - a new hope??

irishash

RedPlanet wrote:

Never heard of Jesse Jackson huh?
There was also a woman canidate on the Republican ticket awhile back, i think it was when Clinton won the 1st time; but she lost out in the Primaries or whatever and didn't get the nomination.

Oh who am i kidding.
Wikipedia rules
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates
1872

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_firsts
1932

yes i did forget about jessie - but as far as i remember he was a 3rd party candidate and not one for the 2 major parties, and the female who went for the ticket did not get it, so no female candidate.

I was basing my thoughts on the 2 major parties and the people who got on the ticket - sorry for any confusion.

as a response to benidict - i fully agree with you that a fair few of the democratic party will be against both obama and clinton - i was just pointing out that even without the democratic naysayers, it will be hard for them - again sorry for any confusion. but i do believe the 2 best candidates of the current bunch are those 2 - unless gore runs again (which he wont)

purple'n'gold

Walter Mondale choose Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate in 1984 (Regan won the election handy) he took 49 of the 50 states.

lostexpectation

there this form you can use to see how much you agree with the 18 known candidates

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/index.php

I had no disagreements with

Kucinich 88 and Gravel 69

gravel?

ah mike gravel former senator for alaska hasn't done anything in years and is bankrupt... obama came third at 48... well I guess I won't be voting again :P

Dr_Teeth

Cool site.. I was

Paul 39, Gravel 34, Kucinich 30

Jesus Wept

insafehands wrote:

Not sure if you got it from him, but that's an Eddie Murphy joke. And to be honest, the post was a bit stupid. If Obama becomes CIC (mis-use of term but whatever) and Hilary is VP, there could equally be some "girl power" nutter and Obama is the next JFK.

Sorry, but it really was a foolish post.

hmm, I've heard it in Chris Rock's standup, maybe he took it off Eddie.

I don't think it's that far fetched.

bobbyjoe wrote:

Hope Al Gore goes for it.

Seems unlikely now... even if there was a possibility, his son probably put the final nail in that coffin recently.

is_that_so

A CNN poll suggests that it's likely to be Clinton v Giuliani.

brianthebard

Benedict XVI wrote:

And millions of democrats will also turn out and vote against her cos she is universally hated.

Why has she the lead in polls then?

As will the millions of democrats (epically in the south) that will not be too wild about the though of a black president .

Remember one of the biggest opponents of integration in the 1960, Alabama Governor George Wallace, ran for president, as a Democrat

If you had checked your history books you would know that Democrats in the 1960s and before were the party best represented the white southern rural voter. There was a bit of a switcharoo after Johnson's presidency, it was called the southern strategy by Republicans I believe.

I’d put my money on the LDS man Romney

Mormons' are almost as hated by non mormons as you claim Clinton is by democrats. He's unlikely to make it through the primaries.

Tzetze

Dr_Teeth wrote:

The only candidate that has impressed me so far is Ron Paul.

+1

JacobM

We could put a national socialist in the White House with Obama on the ticket. He is the living embodiment of miscegenation. All he thinks about is black-in-white 24/7 that's why he always seems so satisfied. Just like :rolleyes: mm-hmm .

Hillary trips over this thing call a sentence. She's always faking it. Which eats up the black vote because every white person is lying and they figure she's easy to read.

Mit Romeny won't get votes. Not on the mormon ticket. I don't need to explain that.

Ron Paul could happen. It is not entirely certain what that would give us. He looks a bit like Ross Perot. That can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing. But don't think Americans care for old mistakes. They voted for George Bush twice and that was once more than I did. As inactive as conservative White America, is they will typically control the presidential election tightly.

lostexpectation

people dont like clinton thirdwayness, ie like blair labour/new labour, the mydd called her a calculating traingulator...

so ron paul came fifth in a republican caucus, romney won.

1. Mitt Romney –32 percent
2. Mike Huckabee – 18 percent
3. Sam Brownback – 15 percent
4. Tom Tancredo – 14 percent
5. Ron Paul – 9 percent
6. Tommy Thompson — 7 percent
7. Fred Thompson – 1 percent
8. Rudolph W. Giuliani – 1 percent
9. Duncan Hunter – 1 percent
10. John McCain (less than 1 percent)
11. John Cox (less than 1 percent)


that was pretty good... strange...

Giuliani always gets bounce from 9/11 but why, what did he do?

Benedict XVI

brianthebard wrote:

Why has she the lead in polls then

this time 4 years ago Joe Limerman was the democratic front runner, what happened to him ?.

Clinton may win the nomination but that is all.

forkassed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Teeth
The only candidate that has impressed me so far is Ron Paul.


+1




+2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfdB5OzlyQ

lostexpectation

Benedict XVI wrote:

this time 4 years ago Joe Limerman was the democratic front runner, what happened to him ?.

he's one of those DINO's democrats in name only he's very pro war even now,im looking at wikipedia nad he won his first political office on the back of opposition to the vietnam war...
he lost the nomination for senator for the democratic party to ned lamont a antiwar netroots backed candidate and went independent and won... rumour ever since that'll he go republican but he hasn't done so yet, he could end up as another vp for the repubs this time.

Marshy

Saw Obama on Oprah earlier. For a while I thought he was talking some sense. Soon though he went off talking typical American crap.

At one stage he said America is the greatest country in the world. Its one thing thinking something outrageous like that but another saying it.

Americans just make me smile sometimes. Just when you think you've found someone who's not a complete eejit they just start talking out their arse.

Al Gore's our only hope!

El Stuntman

Marshy wrote:

At one stage he said America is the greatest country in the world. Its one thing thinking something outrageous like that but another saying it.

Americans just make me smile sometimes. Just when you think you've found someone who's not a complete eejit they just start talking out their arse.

Marshy, use your head for God's sake, what do you think he's going to say?

"no I believe this country (in which I am seeking election as President) is in fact a steaming cesspool of corruption, rampant inequality and heartless capitalism run wild. Our public schools are full of criminality, drugs, guns and underage pregnancies. Our hospitals are closed to you unless you have a platinum credit card. And we're going to bomb any country that doesn't agree with us back to the stone age....

NOW VOTE FOR ME!!!!!"

sound canvassing strategy eh? American's don't like doom and gloom.

with all due respect, I'd suggest the one who is talking out of his arse might, in fact, be you....

Marshy

El Stuntman wrote:

sound canvassing strategy eh? American's don't like doom and gloom.

You don't say. But you're missing the point. I wasn't even talking about his going for the presidency. Just that he'd come up with a mindless sweeping remark such as that. In fact he hadn't even declared an interest in running for president when the interview took place.

Of course I don't expect the guy to talk about all the problems in the way you describe. Its just making ridiculous random statements that annoys me.

El Stuntman

Marshy wrote:

Of course I don't expect the guy to talk about all the problems in the way you describe. Its just making ridiculous random statements that annoys me.

LOL, I'm sure we can find plenty of similar statements made by Irish politicos!

different country, same tribe...:mad:

(although Willie O'Dea is no Obama)