Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

Mr Alan

yea thats definately a good move alright.

Malice

jonny24ie wrote:

Baptista is a good player on his day and Rafa has been known to get the best out of players.

I know Rafa worked miracles in the past (Champions League winner Djimi Traore for example) but I think Baptista would be too much of a stretch.

jonny24ie wrote:

I would drool at the thoughts of any of the above (Messi, Deco and Ronaldinho) playing for us!!

As would I but my point was that you shouldn't form an opinion on a player based on one game.

Kimbot

malice_ wrote:

As would I but my point was that you shouldn't form an opinion on a player based on one game.

Agreed: But I had seen footage of Baptista before he played for Real and he looked like a really good player!!
But seeing the quotes from him is shocking so I wouldn't want him near the club!!

5starpool

I wouldn't be terribly upset to see Crouch leave to be honest. He has done fairly well for us, and it'd probably be better if he stayed, but he isn't integral to the team. If the central midfielders are happy in their situation, then he certainly should be. It is of course good that someone wants to play as often as they can, but to expect to be a regular starter i na squad that big is something only a few can do (Carra, Gerrard, Reina, Agger probably the only few.)

If he does go we do need someone for cover there, but I doubt it will be a big name, even if we do get a good chunk of money for Crouch. It'll probably be some random Spaniard for about 3 million or so though. I hope it is not Baptista though.

Mr Alan

Reina-Agger-Carra-Alonso-Gerrard-Torres are all guarunteed starters pretty much. And you can almost add Pennant and Riise(last year)/Arbeloa(this year) to that bunch as well. Thats 8 players in the team, that in reality feature pretty much week in week out. Think the media is just in love with the idea of giving Rafa stick for rotation, when in reality he doesn't mix it up that much!

Tusky

millersangel wrote:

Reina-Agger-Carra-Alonso-Gerrard-Torres are all guarunteed starters pretty much. And you can almost add Pennant and Riise(last year)/Arbeloa(this year) to that bunch as well. Thats 8 players in the team, that in reality feature pretty much week in week out. Think the media is just in love with the idea of giving Rafa stick for rotation, when in reality he doesn't mix it up that much!

Dont think Alonso is a guaranteed starter this season. With Sissoko impressing and Mascherano being...well, Mascherano I dont think his place is nearly as safe as it was.

el rabitos

Tusky wrote:

Dont think Alonso is a guaranteed starter this season. With Sissoko impressing and Mascherano being...well, Mascherano I dont think his place is nearly as safe as it was.

agreed. i havent seen anything from alonso on a consistant level in about a year that would merit an automatic starting spot.

i know he's one of rafas golden boys but i'd have mascherano in there before him right now, he just looks the more complete, consistant perfomer.

i think alonso will really have to earn his spot this year, and theres alot of competition.

copacetic

millersangel wrote:

Reina-Agger-Carra-Alonso-Gerrard-Torres are all guarunteed starters pretty much. And you can almost add Pennant and Riise(last year)/Arbeloa(this year) to that bunch as well. Thats 8 players in the team, that in reality feature pretty much week in week out. Think the media is just in love with the idea of giving Rafa stick for rotation, when in reality he doesn't mix it up that much!

does finnan not get a look in?
pennant played the most games last year so he deffo should be there.

would disagree on alonso too, he is only deffo if gerrard is injured imo.

Mr Alan

oh yea can't believe i left Finnan out! ok, replace Alonso with Finnan and my point still remains the same, he doesn't rotate nearly as much as people make out!

i agree about the Alonso thing, i'd play Masch ahead of him myself at the minute, but since he's been at liverpool he has been a near definate pick week in week out and that hasn't changed . . .yet!

shotamoose

I don't think Crouch's post-match interview was as negative as some people are saying, he just badly wants to be in the first team, which is understandable. To be honest I think he's a bit demoralised as he realises he's fallen down the pecking order. Obviously if he stays that way he's not doing anybody any favours by hanging around, but I think and hope he'll eventually get over himself and try to play his way back into favour. Wouldn't like to see him leave as he's such a unique player, a good personality and capable of so much.

Mr Alan

^^^^ agreed

ciaran76

When the media say he rotates I think it gives a general view that he basically has a different team out from the week before.
The term I think they should be using is tinkered or forced changes as some of the teams I seen him put out were because of injuries / suspensions to players from the week before.

Does that make sense ?

Zapp Brannigan

Rafa's happy with the squad and doesn't think he'll bring in any new players before friday: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156847070830-1409.htm

Maybe Carra will be back sooner than we thought, or else he's gonna lot Hobbs step up?

EDIT: He apparently went for Ujfalusi, but the player wasn't interested: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_2695391,00.html

Stky10

Zapp Brannigan wrote:

EDIT: He apparently went for Ujfalusi, but the player wasn't interested: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_2695391,00.html

Talk of Boumsong:eek: as well

http://www.thesoccerblog.org/premiership/liverpool-bid-for-juventus-defender/

5starpool

Stky10 wrote:

Talk of Boumsong:eek: as well

Someone is trying to wind someone up I think.

The Rooster

5starpool wrote:

Someone is trying to wind someone up I think.

I even prefer the Traore rumour over the Boumsong rumour!

What next? Titus Bramble....

Can hardly believe we missed out on Zat Knight and Ian Harte

~Rebel~

Stky10 wrote:

Talk of Boumsong:eek: as well

http://www.thesoccerblog.org/premiership/liverpool-bid-for-juventus-defender/

To be honest if he was cheap, he'd be grand for 4th choice CB, id be quite happy with that. I think a lot of his crapness at Newcastle came from playing with Bramble. Now i dont think he's great by any stretch, but that amplified it. Had a decent season last year with Juve.

Edit> just had a look and it seems he can be got for 3.5mill euro's, about 2.35mill pounds.

Kanney

Just saw on LFC who we could be drawn against in Champions League... Not really too scared at all, really confident that we can take any team. Which is great news for us.

Mr Alan

BBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Cech beats Reina to CL goalie of the year. They met eachother in the semis-who came out on top there Uefa?!!?! BBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zapp Brannigan

Gerrard and Carra lost out aswell. Deservedly though. Maldini and Seedorf were immense in Europe last season.

We've got Porto so far. Should be able to beat them.
Bet we draw MArseille next!
EDIT: I knew it!! Cisse's gonna play the best game of his life.

Mr Alan

ha ha ha marseille it is!

Peyton Manning

You lot have it piss easy!!

Mr Alan

makes a change!

Zapp Brannigan

Yup, it's a nice enough group. Utd's group looks fun. Roma will be out for revenge, but then they haven't really strengthened their squad (infact they lost Chivu).

Zapp Brannigan

Group A:
Liverpool
Porto
Marseille
Besiktas

Should be able to come out on top of that group! Now to start making my Fantasy CL team!

Mr Alan

never done a CL fantasy football, where i do that???

we won it in Wembely, we won it gay Paris,
in 77 & 84 it was Rome,
We won it 5 times,
we won it 5 timmmmeeeessssss,
In Istanbul, we won it 5 times.

Its only on loan,
its only on looooooaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn,
we're going to moscow- to bring it back home!

come on you reds!

el rabitos

handy enough. never fun to go to turkey though, hopefully it wont be a place to have to go to needing a result

Zapp Brannigan

Last time we were in group A we won it....is that a sign?

miller you can do the fantasy CL on the uefa site. It's not up yet though.

mike65

Good group to my eyes. Given the strength in depth of the CL these days I don't think matters a whit if Liverpool finish top or second but Pool will finish top naturalment!

On Crouchy I did'nt see the interview so can't comment on that but anyone who says sure we can do without him might rethink that if Torres got a big "hello from me" tackle from some neanderthal central defender.

Mike.

eirebhoy

Porto v Liverpool - 18/09
Liverpool v Marseille - 3/10
Besiktas v Liverpool - 24/10
Liverpool v Besiktas - 6/11
Liverpool v Porto - 28/11
Marseille v Liverpool - 11/12

~Rebel~

A bet on Marseille in the last game would be good value now, pool have a good chance of being qualified by then and sending out a weak weak team like last year.

Nailz

Banned.

mike65

Oooooooh! What did he say?

Mike.

Mr Alan

was wondering the same thing myself mike!

Dub13

mike65 wrote:

Oooooooh! What did he say?

Check the reported posts forum.

Kanney

Nice draw for us. Easily get top of the group. Can't wait for Besiktas game and Marseille, Beskitas against Spurs last season, the crowd sounded like pitbulls for the entire 90.
Gerrard out of Derby game.

Mr Alan

how do ya check that?

gucci

defientely out, ah nuts, will have to do a shuffle in my fantasy team, was hoping he might bag a few goals.
is the game on setanta (or anywhere?) tomorrow?? (i dont have the liverpool package!)

Malice

mike65 wrote:

Oooooooh! What did he say?

Mike.

I got the text of the offending post in my e-mail through the Boards thread update function but I wouldn't like to give him the recognition of re-posting it here. I can PM it though if anyone is that interested.

Mr Alan

yea will ya PM it to me please!

happy birthday btw Dub13!

RE*AC*TOR

Pako Ayesteran is leaving!!!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/08/31/reds-assistant-boss-set-to-quit-anfield-100252-19716596/

This is bad news indeed. Benitez and Pako have been a team for a long time.

Mr Alan

****

gucci

CRAPOLA, hope this dosnt upset the team moral in anyway, who will rafa replace him with....kevin keegan

DSB

malice_ wrote:

I got the text of the offending post in my e-mail through the Boards thread update function but I wouldn't like to give him the recognition of re-posting it here. I can PM it though if anyone is that interested.

Yes please

mike65

Just saw it - he came all the way over just to post that. What a tit.

Mike.

RE*AC*TOR

I don't see the point of all these PMs. Basically he typed out a manc chant to the tune of "We won it 5 times" that references the Hillsborough disaster.

Mystery over.

Its one thing abusing a fellow poster in the heat of an arguement, which IMO can be excused, but that kind of ugly, unwarranted, hateful commentary is inexcusable.

mike65

RedandWhiteKop had the scoop yesterday evening but like a tit I did'nt report it here. One name mentioned as a replcement is Gary McAlister who I like every Pool fan would like to see back at the club as a coach though whether he has the technical nouse to take up such a role is another matter.

I guess we'll know how final this is tomorrow at 3 pm.

http://i18.tinypic.com/5xz737m.jpg

Mike.

Mr Alan

gary macca back at the club would be super!

that above posted sounds like a right proper cu*t (in the words of danny dyer)

i hope he is just banned for good?

flanzer

Guys, you can now get liverpoolfc.tv over WAP. Just txt REDS to 57402 and get the free link. I could post it but it's very long winded!

dardoz

pm to me, sounds juicy