Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

HashSlinging

Jamie carragher always said his family come first in life followed by football. The best thing he's ever experienced was the birth of his child followed by the champs league.

Mr Alan

I agree, family comes before football. He could have had both and choose not to. If there is circumstances for that, i retract wat i said, otherwise, i stand by it. And Jazzy, i am actually criticising a Liverpool player here Jazzy-hardly the most red-tinted of things to do.

~Rebel~

Tough draw for us. would have much preferred the prespect of either a Non English team Now, or in the semi's, bit crap that we could easily end up having 3 english teams if we made it through to the final.

Would happily drop the 3 points in the league to get past them in the CL.

Really annoyed about Chelsea in the CL though, been there done that. And they're probably due one! Though I'm not sure Grant is a match for Rafa in these kinds of ties where tactics over the 2 legs play a bigger part.

zAbbo

I think United will get a hammering in Rome, but they might win the game

Tusky

Liverpool run of fixtures...

23rd - Manchester Utd away
30th - Everton home
2nd - Arsenal -C.league away
5th - Arsenal - P.league away
8th - Arsenal - C.League home
13th - Blackburn home

Make or break for the season.

zAbbo

Tusky wrote: »

Liverpool run of fixtures...

23rd - Manchester Utd away
30th - Everton home
2nd - Arsenal -C. league away
5th - Arsenal - P.league away
8th - Arsenal - C.League home
13th - Blackburn home

Those 6 games will make or break the season for us.

spockety

Tusky wrote: »

Liverpool run of fixtures...

23rd - Manchester Utd away
30th - Everton home
2nd - Arsenal -C. league away
5th - Arsenal - P.league away
8th - Arsenal - C.League home
13th - Blackburn home

Yeah, and Arsenals

23 Sun Chelsea A (League)
29 Sat Bolton A (League)
1 Tue Liverpool H (CL)
5 Sat Liverpool H (League)
8 Tue Liverpool A (CL)
13 Sun Manchester U A (League)


What do you think is more important to Arsenal.. getting the Premiership, or progressing in the Champions League....?

Mr Alan

spockety wrote: »

What do you think is more important to Arsenal.. getting the Premiership, or progressing in the Champions League....?

Champions League. Definately.

Jazzy

Mr Alan wrote: »

And Jazzy, i am actually criticising a Liverpool player here Jazzy-hardly the most red-tinted of things to do.

in the context that he didnt jet off to italy to be with the LIVERPOOL team instead of with his GF who is in labour with his child.

redspider

That is a tough draw CL for Liverpool (and Arsenal!), given that the winner will have to (most likely) meet Chelsea in the semi-final. It is possible that to win it Liverpool or Arsenal would have to beat all 3 of the other english teams, a difficult task mentally, and physically, given that both teams have leage campaigns to maintain.

I think that neither Benitez nor Wenger will be happy with the draw, but I expect them to say that such draws are to be expected and that it is a tough competition, etc. Ferguson on the other hand will be delighted to avoid any english teams until the final. Hopefully Roma will have an impact. Perhaps an easy draw will be an 'achilles heel'.

I dont expect the Liverpool players to be too ecstatic about the draw, but I have no doubt that come the fixtures against Arsenal, they will be able to treat it as one game at a time and will give their all in the two-legged tie. We certainly have nothing to fear over Arsenal in the two legs.

Another interesting factor is how the sequence of league matches play into this.

Having said all that, there is no easy way to the final, sometimes 'everest' is climbed from the south face or the north face. All we and players have to remember is that all of the teams that Liverpool are facing are beatable. It wont be an easy task, but it is possible.

Funnily enough, Paddypower is now offering Barca as favourites:
Barcelona 11 - 4
Man Utd 3 - 1
Chelsea 7 - 2
Arsenal 6 - 1
Liverpool 13 - 2

With Everton now out of the Uefa Cup, we need to keep a strong eye on the 4th place chase as well. That wont be easy.

Redspider

Tusky

This thread was created over an hour before the draw. The guy claims that several contacts have told him that the draw was leaked and bookies stopped taking bets on the draw itself. He said that the draw would be exactly as it was. Check it out.

http://forums.icnorthwest.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755

Pighead

Tusky wrote: »

This thread was created over an hour before the draw. The guy claims that several contacts have told him that the draw was leaked and bookies stopped taking bets on the draw itself. He said that the draw would be exactly as it was. Check it out.

http://forums.icnorthwest.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755

Link not working. Sepp is watching us. Always.

Tusky

Pighead wrote: »

Link not working. Sepp is watching us. Always.

Theres 1000s of people viewing it. Try refreshing. Surely there has to be outcry about this ?

The guys on the forum are emailing uefa, bbc, sky sports etc and showing them the thread. There was less than a 1% chance of the draw turning out as the guy predicted.

Try this link - http://forums.liverpoolecho.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33755

Zapp Brannigan

Not excited about the draw at all. I could well see Arsenal dumping us out. Only consolation is the 2nd leg is at Anfield.

kaimera

He said that the draw would be exactly as it was

Someone on boards must have the same tho.

Cant view thread, too many connections.

zing

No decent deals to be had on flights into Liverpool or Manc for the return leg

mike65

Does it matter who is drawn though? If you want to win you have to be prepared to beat any team.

Mike.

Tusky

kaimera wrote: »

Someone on boards must have the same tho.

Cant view thread, too many connections.

Heres the first post in the thread

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Possible leak of draw
Rumour going around draw has been leaked..... this is no doubt rubbish but if Rumour is true it's LFC - arsenal and Chelsea - fenerbache and the Mancs v roma
No bookies will take bets on the draw either.......
Let the draw commence. Comeeee on!

Mr Magnolia

Exactly Mike. Arsenal are off form at the minute. I fancy us, especially with the 2nd leg at home.

prendy

it does matter because the whole process is supposed to be completly transparent.

Tusky

Heres a screenshot of the post.

http://i29.tinypic.com/2i96mj8.jpg

BaZmO*

Then what about the 50 billion posts that predicted the wrong draw?

Tusky

BaZmO* wrote: »

Then what about the 50 billion posts that predicted the wrong draw?

I think its more the fact that he said that the draw had been leaked and the proceeded to get it correct...

I'm sure plenty of other people guessed the draw but it just seems a bit fishy.

HashSlinging

unreal just read the post about the rigged results.

BaZmO*

Tusky wrote: »

I think its more the fact that he said that the draw had been leaked and the proceeded to get it correct...

I'm sure plenty of other people guessed the draw but it just seems a bit fishy.

Either way I still think it's BS.

Schalke are 3-1 to go through

Tusky

HashSlinging wrote: »

firewall has blocked paddy power, does anyone know what the odds are for shalke to beat Barcelona.

3-1

HashSlinging

cheers, fancy shalke to go through to the final.

Mr Alan

saw this and had a little chuckle.....

If I was being really clever, I'd say Arsenal have looked tired lately and very ordinary, which is resulting in them dropping points left right and centre. Whereas we seem to be going quite well, why is that do you think?

Nunu

SSN reporting that Agger is out for the rest of the season....needs surgery on his metatarsal

Mr Alan

yea saw that earlier, meant to say it here.....ah well would have come in handy over this upcoming period. at least he'll be back to top form start of next season

emc2

Just heard on sky sports that Agger is out for the rest of the season, he needs an operation on his injury.

Melion

Im starting to believe the booze story about Agger. There is no way a metatarsal injury should keep him out for nearly a year. Especially since he came through the 2 reserve games so well.

Mr Alan

Melion, anytime a player is out long term rumour mill and gossip-ists go into overdrive, wouldnt worry about it. sometimes these things just happen.

Melion

Mr Alan wrote: »

Melion, anytime a player is out long term rumour mill and gossip-ists go into overdrive, wouldnt worry about it. sometimes these things just happen.

What im saying is though, why not give him the operation 4 months ago when he was nearly ready for a return only to be hit by it again. He looked back to his best in the reserve games recently so i cant see how he was still injured.

Tusky

Melion wrote: »

Im starting to believe the booze story about Agger. There is no way a metatarsal injury should keep him out for nearly a year. Especially since he came through the 2 reserve games so well.

What booze story ?

justfortherecor

Tusky wrote: »

What booze story ?

+1

Never heard it before

Melion

Pretty much that he's an alcoholic

Mr Alan

rumour was that when he got injured, he went off the rails and started on the booze very heavy, and has had something of breakdown since.

zing

Melion wrote: »

Pretty much that he's an alcoholic

Seen that a few times alright. Story was that he'd gotten depressed after suffering the injury and had supposedly lost a lot of money on some restaurant he bought in Liverpool and ended up going on a major bender which he's not quite been able to get off since.

Oh wait - unless IrishMike has heard the same it can't be true

DeadSkin

Here is the only place I've read about Agger being on the booze.

Mr Alan

that rumour has been flying around merseyside since long before christmas.

mike65

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_fracture

Mike.

Helix

Melion wrote: »

Im starting to believe the booze story about Agger. There is no way a metatarsal injury should keep him out for nearly a year. Especially since he came through the 2 reserve games so well.

it wasnt booze

mayordenis

saying drugs or booze, rafa would have zero tolerance, it's all bull****.

Mr Alan

mayordenis wrote: »

it's all bull****.

spot on

Thanx 4 The Fish

Agreed, he get's rid if any of that rubbish goes on, see bellamy as an example of somebody who stepped out of line and served the ultimate penalty for it.

herbieflowers

plus he was rubbish for ye

Tusky

herbieflowers wrote: »

plus he was rubbish for ye

Did about as well as you could expect for a 6m signing.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Not as bad as some have been in fairness, would take him over quite a lot of the dross that is out there at the moment.

stick-dan

load of crap,

am i right in saying the last time we won the champions league we faced chelsea 3 matches in a row, twice in champo league and once in premiership, they were 3 consecutive matches at some stage of the season..If so would that be another omen...