Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

StickyMcGinty

"whenever two english teams have met in europe, the side ranked lowest in the league at the time of meeting has always gone through"

Cyrus

jank wrote: »

Congrats on your win. But man do the cards fall for liverpool!

i think after getting to our 4th CL semi in a row we have made our own luck along the way

~Rebel~

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Also can we all just appreciate Sami's goal. What a header, the man is a red legend and deserves the new contract he's just signed.

EDIT: I believe Torres scored 2 against Porto, and one against Marseille. Both games away from home.

Away to Porto it was Kuyt got our goal in the 1-1 draw, at Home to Porto Torres got 2 alright.


Phew tired and emotional now anyway.

Feel bit sorry for Arsenal, horrible to bow out when they'd scored what im sure they all though was the winner at 7mins from time. Ah well, thats life, Chelsea part 6478 next!

Cyrus wrote: »

i think after getting to our 4th CL semi in a row we have made our own luck along the way

in fairness we haven't been in the last 3 semi's..in 06 we got knocked out in the first knockouts to Benfica..

mike65

I dont think Rafa will make the mistake he made with the starting formation. Start with one or the other.

Mike.

Kimbot

Rafa started Crouch to give him a chance after him scoring against arsenal the other day.

PiE

jank wrote: »

Congrats on your win. But man do the cards fall for liverpool!

Arsenal couldn't win any of the 3 games, despite having the advantage of 2 of the games at home. Even if Arse had gotten the peno, Liverpool still outscored this amazing, freeflowing Arsenal attack.

Delighted.

mayordenis

PHB wrote: »

I'll remember this next time people Ronaldo doesn't score in big games

give us our moment


anyway more to the point in the big games ronaldo doesnt score

Tusky

Pighead wrote: »

Ah right I see. Oi Tusky, edit your post, your misinformation is misleading the fairweather fans who don't watch most of the games.

He got two in Porto and one in Marseille then ? Just got mixed up.

internelligent

I don't think having Crouch on was a bad thing. I think he played alright. There were alot of sloppy passes going on but I can't remember him being responsible for any of them. Also, long balls never seemed to find him to let him assist Torres. However, in saying that, Babel on for Crouch was a good move. Not for the obvious reasons, (gettin a peno and scoring), but he seems to be a great impact sub and attacking was the best way to defend tonight.
Was delighted that we never held back to defend after going ahead. Arguably we showed more drive to score another after Torres (future husband:D) scored that cracker because it was needed for some safety. Hell of a game. Was sure it was all over 7 mins from time.

Now for the hattrick against Chelski!!!!

lpool2k05

Ryan Babel was IMMENSE when he came on!!We all know he can do it!!

By the way Wenger just said 'I had a clear view,it was never a penalty'

Least all of us admitted last week that Kuyt fouled Hleb!!

Hes sick........LOVE IT!!!!

Tusky

He got an assist for the Torres goal.

OPENROAD

lpool2k05 wrote: »

Ryan Babel was IMMENSE when he came on!!We all know he can do it!!

By the way Wenger just said 'I had a clear view,it was never a penalty'

Least all of us admitted last week that Kuyt fouled Hleb!!

Hes sick........LOVE IT!!!!

Did Rafa admitt it?

RE*AC*TOR

Jeez, those Arsenal fans (on boards.ie) are more than a little bitter. What a shame. I always thought there was an element of mutual appreciation between Liverpool and Arsenal. It wasn't too long ago that Arsenal played what could only be described as a more conservative version of how Liverpool currently play. Even then though we could identify a good team, and there was none of the animosity that existed with UTD, or more recently Chelsea. But now, a lot of winging over penalties, a sense that Liverpool ruined the Arsenal party. Liverpool should have bowed down and let them through. I thought Hleb went down easy versus Kuyt, yeah Kuyt pulled on him, but not in a manner that would actually make a fully grown man fall over. Up until tonight I had put Arsenal fans in a different category to UTD and Chelsea (not that there's lot of those over here) fans, but the ungracious manner of their response to defeat makes me think twice.

Fair play to Arsenal, you have a ridiculously talented bunch of players. You tore us apart at times. Ultimately Liverpool out-battled you. Hope you beat UTD at the weekend.

mike65

The formation was a problem in that it put Gerrard in his worst postion and Crouch did'nt get the crosses he needed. When G Unit went central he was more effective.

Babels bursts of speed were exellent just the job when needed. Kuyt and Carra were immense down the right side, Hyypias header was just perfect even if he did have all the time in the world!

Mike

jank

Even if Arse had gotten the peno

it would have changed the tie completely.

i think after getting to our 4th CL semi in a row we have made our own luck along the way

I thought they got knocked out in the quarters 3 years ago:D

Tusky

Knocked out in the last 16 by Benfica.

jank

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

Jeez, those Arsenal fans (on boards.ie) are more than a little bitter. What a shame. I always thought there was an element of mutual appreciation between Liverpool and Arsenal. It wasn't too long ago that Arsenal played what could only be described as a more conservative version of how Liverpool currently play. Even then though we could identify a good team, and there was none of the animosity that existed with UTD, or more recently Chelsea. But now, a lot of winging over penalties, a sense that Liverpool ruined the Arsenal party. Liverpool should have bowed down and let them through. I thought Hleb went down easy versus Kuyt, yeah Kuyt pulled on him, but not in a manner that would actually make a fully grown man fall over. Up until tonight I had put Arsenal fans in a different category to UTD and Chelsea (not that there's lot of those over here) fans, but the ungracious manner of their response to defeat makes me think twice.

Fair play to Arsenal, you have a ridiculously talented bunch of players. You tore us apart at times. Ultimately Liverpool out-battled you. Hope you beat UTD at the weekend.

Well you can forgive us for feeling a bit miffed at the penalty decision. Im sure if the shoe was on the other foot boards.ie would probably crash due to fans venting their frustration.

Anyway its all history.

lpool2k05

OPENROAD wrote: »

Did Rafa admitt it?

He didnt have to!

Guy:Incognito

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

I thought Hleb went down easy versus Kuyt, yeah Kuyt pulled on him, but not in a manner that would actually make a fully grown man fall over.

Thats the way I saw it and I think if he hadnt of thrown himself down the ref would have given it.

oobydooby

Amazing stuff, what a brilliant European night again from Liverpool and hard luck to Arsenal. Just calming down now:)

Interesting Chelsea match now to think about. We can rest players in the English league but we have the first leg at home this time. I reckon Rafa will go for the juggler and try and win the game so he can leave Carra and Gerrard on the bench for the Stamford Bridge leg.

evil_seed

All I can say is WOW. Amazing game, and in fairness I think Arsenal can feel hard done by. What an emotional rollercoaster of a game. Brilliant for the neutrals no doubt but heart attack material for us 'pool fans

Guy:Incognito

Just watching the highlights again on ITV. HAve to say, Reina was poor on the 1st goal. Left way too much space on the near post.

spockety

jank wrote: »

it would have changed the tie completely.



I thought they got knocked out in the quarters 3 years ago:D

2005 - Groups 16 QF SF F (WINNERS)
2006 - Groups 16
2007 - Groups 16 QF SF F (RUNNER UP)
2008 - Groups 16 QF SF ....

That is a very very tasty record, thanks.

~Marky~

My heart is still racing after that match..Think I need a drink to calm me down

Vokes

Yeh, take that man-marking! :cool:

I Sami.

Guy:Incognito

SofaK wrote: »

Yeh, take that man-marking! :cool:

I Sami.

In fairness, Senderos would be crap in any system. They'd have been better off getting a loaner off us. At least he would have pretended to be playign for Arsenal.

Tusky

Stekelly wrote: »

Just watching the highlights again on ITV. HAve to say, Reina was poor on the 1st goal. Left way too much space on the near post.

Hes been poor for the last month or two to be honest. Hes been letting in goals he really should be saving.

walshki

Looking at the fixtures - Chelsea have five or six days off before the Anfield leg but they have the United showdown (potentially) at Stamford Bridge in between the two legs. Tough week. We have Birmingham away in between. Small thing like that could be a crucial advantage. Also looking at the highlights Chelsea looked very poor tonight so I'm feeling confident of another final at this stage.

Worked out in the end tonight but I was worried about how long Rafa took to change the formation. If Arsenal had gotten back into gear we could have suffered badly. Crouch is unlucky but Rafa can't fit him in while playing Kuyt on the right and so on so its hard to see him playing in the top games.

yom 1

what can I say....

Quality game. Was suprised to see Crouch start but was happy he did cos it meant we were not going out to just defend our slender lead. Arsenal tore outta the starting blocks and deserved their lead. But as happened last week they then stopped playing. Great header from Sami, nice way to celebrate his new contract. He was already written into Anfield folklore but this just adds to his legend status amongst pool fans.

Liverpool started to turn the screw and kept it going into the start of the second half. Torres took his goal beautifully. Quality finish. Was glad Liverpool kept pushing on though for a 3rd goal. I've slated Walcott several times but that was some ****ing run. Was gutted absolutely gutted and then bam - peno. Gerrard had done absolutely nothing all game but it took some balls to step up. Great peno. As for Babel, his pace is just unreal. Really had a big influence on the game and took his goal very, very, well.

All in all great game, think it shaved a year or 2 off my life though:p Another semi against Chelsea awaits. Hopefully we can make it hattrick of semi final wins against them. WALK ON WALK ON!

oobydooby

Stekelly wrote: »

Just watching the highlights again on ITV. HAve to say, Reina was poor on the 1st goal. Left way too much space on the near post.

just threw it on there after seeing your post, classic commentary:) "Liverpool's history and prestige as the best English team in Europe are safe in the hands of Rafa Benitez" (roughly:pac:)

edit: FFS they shouldn't be allowed show ads like that on TV. Worse than youth defence stuff. Didn't think anything could piss me off tonight but watching sicko carcrashporn surgery has wrecked my buzz.

Mr Alan

wat a game.

unlucky Arsenal, but imo, which granted is a tad biased, the better team over the two ties went through.

Rafa is a ****ing god.

Kuyt should never get stick, he is up there with Gerrard,Carragher,Torres and Masch when it comes to our most important players in big games, he always does it. top scorer for us in europe if i'm not mistaken.

Torres is brilliant.

Crouch did well.

I love Reina.

Babel did brilliant.

Masch was amazing.

if Aurelio can stay fit, he's gonna be super for us.

Carra did great.

Skrtle did great and is gonna be a ****ing amazing player for us. hard as ****in nails.

wat a night.

Wenger does sulk a little too much, great manager, but shut the **** up. Him and Arsenals players showed us no respect in the last week. They got wat they deserved.

He said that these three 3 games would define Arsenals season?

Ok, 3 games over, you were good, but not good enough.

PS-wat a run by walcott, amazing, reminded me off giggs against arsenal.

Vokes

Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiC9UCX46NE

Walcotts run really was superb.

Stekelly wrote: »

Just watching the highlights again on ITV. HAve to say, Reina was poor on the 1st goal. Left way too much space on the near post.

Yeh, definitely agree with that - thought he quite poor for the goal, esp since its one of his strengths (shot-stopping).


Despite one or 2 shakey moments, I thought Aurelio was superb tonight, especially given the fact he had no protection in front of him on the left-wing (Gerrard) initially.

Orizio

There isn't a hope in hell Kuyt is our top scorer in any league.

Walcott and Babel were indeed fantastic. I don't see why they get so much stick, they are both young, have immense potential and both have been threatening to put in a huge performance for the last couple of months. Babel is the only winger we have, even if he is still raw.

Aurelio is very solid as well.

PHB

Three things stuck out for me, Reina was defo poor for the first goal, and Skertle was poor for the first goal, and why in the world didn't Mascherano foul Walcott on his run?

I think Rafa did very well in identifying Toure as Arsenals weak point over the two ties, Gerrards goal and Babels penalty came from him being beaten in a dribble.

Mr Alan

pretty sure, Kuyt is our top scorer in the CL.

kaimera

After seeing the Che-Fener highlights I dont see anything we cant beat.

Mr Alan

PHB wrote: »

Three things stuck out for me, Reina was defo poor for the first goal, and Skertle was poor for the first goal, and why in the world didn't Mascherano foul Walcott on his run?

someone tried

cant remember who, Alonso or Masch.

DeadSkin

Super game, not for the faint hearted, another fantastic European night at Anfield.

Don't think it was penalty[don't care cos I get me stake back from Paddy Power ]. When they got the second goal I thought that's it season over. Within seconds, penalty, f*ck!!!! Stevie G was poor tonight but the man put the penalty away.

Sami's goal, fan-f*ckin-tastic, the man has been a revelation this season. Torres goal, we all know he's capable of that, just class.
Kuyt, again worked his socks off, probably even more than what we've seen in previous games.

Babel should be used as a sub, he's done it a few times this season from the bench and looks much more lively when he comes off the bench.

Arsenal only had 2 corners[I think] so that reduced a big percentage of the set piece threat.
What a run from Walcott for Adebayor's goal and Diaby's strike was excellent.

So, here we are again, Chelsea. Brilliant!

mayordenis

not exactly sure but i think kuyt has 6 in europe and crouch, babel, gerrard and torres all have 4/5, so orizio i reckon you are wrong, and i reckon some dleuded people need to give one of the hardest working liverpool players of all time some ****ing credit.

Orizio

Mr Alan wrote: »

pretty sure, Kuyt is our top scorer in the CL.

He's third.

Link.

mayordenis

Orizio wrote: »

He's third.

Link.

oh you're not including qualifiers well done . . .

Orizio

mayordenis wrote: »

not exactly sure but i think kuyt has 6 in europe and crouch, babel, gerrard and torres all have 4/5, so orizio i reckon you are wrong, and i reckon some dleuded people need to give one of the hardest working liverpool players of all time some ****ing credit.

You really can't prove such a claim and hard work alone is not enough. What of goals and skill?

DeadSkin

Orizio wrote: »

He's third.

Link.

Think this might be more up to date.

Orizio

mayordenis wrote: »

oh you're not including qualifiers well done . . .

Thank you.

Mr Alan

top up until tonight, with goals against inter and arsenal. my point is, he doesnt deserve half the stick he gets. his overall game is wats important

mayordenis

well we said in europe no?
accept it you're wrong

PHB

That's what gets him the stick! His overall game is poor.
He has the heart of a lion, but the skill of an elephant.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Mr Alan wrote: »

someone tried

cant remember who, Alonso or Masch.

think it was Aurelio.

Anyway, cannot hear anything, have no voice, will be useless in work tomorrow but was sooooo worth it. thought it was over when the scored the second, have not seen the pen again but it looked like it was to me. Anyway, roll on Chelsea.

Mr Alan

PHB wrote: »

That's what gets him the stick! His overall game is poor.
He has the heart of a lion, but the skill of an elephant.

I disagree, i think he is usally among our best players when we play big games, its against poorer teams his lack of skill is apparent.
against top teams, he keeps it simple and is usually excellent,

how can ya not see?!:rolleyes:he's a better looking version of Rooney!

Orizio

mayordenis wrote: »

well we said in europe no?
accept it you're wrong

It hardly matters does it?

Kuyt is top scorer in Europe but not in the CL. Fair enough?