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Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Kanney


    Someone mentioned above about trying Babel up front, I'd like to see that. Even for one game, he has so much pace, he can sprint from defenders.
    I'd say tho, agreeing mostly with the teams above. I think Gerrard will play instead of Lucas, but other than that. Maybe Riise instead of Babel, I think he will go with Riise because of his experience.
    Cisse is a doubt, which sucks, I'd like to see him in action. I think he'll get a good reception, but maybe not as good for Zenden.
    In other news, anyone want to see the new Liverpool PES 2008 faces?
    Enjoy.
    http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browser&mode=article&article_id=615224&entity_id=-1&image_id=703025&overview=yes&page=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,679 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    ~Rebel~ wrote:
    With no Gerrard or Torres that would leave Yossi as pretty much the only bit of creativity on the pitch..

    If only Harry was fit...

    I reckon Gerrard will make an appearance, possibly both him and Torres from the subs bench (again) but it'll be too late if that happens. Sadly, I'll have to agree...without them it has 0-0 written all over it. Unless Zenden or Cisse have a point to prove (though hopefully neither will have the ability to do so)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Riise on the LW with Babel partnering Torres would be interesting to see alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    Kanney wrote:


    Pennant is nailed on. The rest resemble their true-life counterparts (even if the Agger one, looks a bit birth-defect-y), except Arbeloa, who the developers have clearly never seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    reckon Cisse will definately score :( just the way these things work. think we'll start a strong team incl one of, or both Gerrrard and Torres, we can't risk not qualifying from this group, although, at the same team, its rafa we're talking about, so who knows! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭swalsh


    reckon Cisse will definately score :( just the way these things work. think we'll start a strong team incl one of, or both Gerrrard and Torres, we can't risk not qualifying from this group, although, at the same team, its rafa we're talking about, so who knows! :)

    I was thinking the exact same thing regarding Cisse


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    its the CL, our best players please... that means stevie me and nando


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    lay off on the stevie me ****e, he's our captain after all-get behind the team and all that :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    ahh its true tho, so u gotta laugh :p
    love the lad, quality player and great captain... but really - its all about G-Unit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    SofaKing wrote:
    Riise on the LW with Babel partnering Torres would be interesting to see alright.

    Riise should never ever ever be allowed to play LW, he is just awful there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    i cant believe you just said G-unit :( i've lost all faith in humanity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Riise should never ever ever be allowed to play, he is just awful.

    thats wat you meant to say, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,023 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Theres only 2 games and then a 13day break, we may as well put out pretty much the full team twice. No point resting them for the national teams.

    I think/hope it'll be Crouch and Torres tonight, and Kuyt and Torres on Sunday.

    Could also see Cisse scoring tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    thats wat you meant to say, no?

    True. Don't you just love when Riise picks up the ball 40 yards from goal and has a yard of space. We all know what's coming, and in fairness to him, sooner or later one will go in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    He's scored some great goals, but the amount of opportunities he wastes is just beyond belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Kanney


    PES faces are class, Arbeloa completely missed tho. At least the likes of Agger, Pennant, Aurelio dont have the standard white man, black man face like they had in previous games.
    Voronin and Crouch tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    I'll go Crouch Torres......

    Reina

    Finnan---Hypia----Carragher-Aurelio
    Gerrard---Sissoko--Mascherano-Yossi


    Torres----Crouch

    Which will of course park the .. . . . GERRARD ON THE RIGHT!!!!!! debate :(

    Then for Sunday . . . . .

    Reina

    Finnan
    Hypia---Carragher---Arbeloa

    Momo
    -Pennant
    Gerrard
    Babel--

    Torres
    Kuyt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    I actually think a stint on the right would do Gerrard good. He is a little too outspoken in the media about his best position, rotation etc. Just a little reminder that he's not bigger than the team.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I think the team tonight will be....

    Reina

    Finnan
    Hyypia---Carragher---Arbeloa
    Benayoun----Momo----Gerrard
    Riise

    Torres
    Voronin


    Then Sunday

    Reina

    Finnan
    Hyypia---Carragher---Arbeloa
    Pennant----Masch----Gerrard
    Babel

    Torres
    Kuyt


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    5starpool wrote:
    I think the team tonight will be....

    Reina

    Finnan
    Hyypia---Carragher---Arbeloa
    Gerrard----Momo
    Masch
    Riise

    Torres
    Voronin

    Thats the way I think Raffa will play it. Maybe with Babel on the left and Stevie G to score from the right wing!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I didnt realise there is a two week break after the Spurs game. If thats the case he should put out a strong side tonight.

    This is what I would go for.

    Reina

    Finnan
    Carragher
    Hyypia
    Riise

    Yossi
    Gerrard
    Sissoko
    Babel

    Crouch---Torres

    Yossi has earned a start and I would like to see more of the Crouch & Torres partership. Sissoko has earned a start as well and Mascherano hasnt been great lately. Arbeloa has also earned a rest..

    I really hope Rafa gives Babel a kick up the arse. He obviously has bags of potential but seems content to trot around the pitch and looks generally uninterested. Sometimes he looks like he doesnt even want the ball and he plays the simple ball too often for my liking. I suppose hes young and is still settling in but Id like to see him take on players a little more.

    I would also be interested in seeing this -

    Gerrard----Sissoko----Lucas----Yossi

    Torres---Babel

    I think it would work quite well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Confirmed line up

    Reina
    Finnan-Carra-Hyypia-Aurelio
    Benayoun-Sissoko-Gerrard-Leto
    Crouch-Torres

    Subs: Itandje, Arbeloa, Riise, Mascherano, Voronin, Babel, Kuyt,

    Got 9 right. :)

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Leto is an odd choice there, otherwise probably the best team availible bar Kuyt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    mike65 wrote:
    Confirmed line up

    Reina
    Finnan-Carra-Hyypia-Aurelio
    Benayoun-Sissoko-Gerrard-Leto
    Crouch-Torres

    Mike.

    ah - I was only two players off and I was going to mention that I wouldnt mind Aurelio over Riise...fabios crossing was terrible at the weekend though. Leto is a bit of an odd choice seeing as Babel didnt feature in the last game...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    Glad to see leto get a look in to be honest.
    With all these purchases we should be blooding the younger players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Setanta seem to have made a fairly big booboo. They showed Liverpools formation like this...

    Gerrard----Sissoko----Leto----Benayoun

    and then launched into a conversation about Gerrard playing on the right. Surely Leto (a left winger) is not playing in the center ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Saw that and posted on the CL thread. Sounds unlikely to me.

    Cisse on the bench due to knock in training.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    RTE & Uefa.com showing this lineup...

    Gerrard---Mascherano---Sissoko---Babel

    Torres--Crouch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,023 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    The Setanta lads probably got Lucas and Leto mixed up or something..or else they'd already made their notes and comments based on an expectancy Gerrard being on the right and said fckit they'd steam on.

    <edit> liverpool.tv showing leto, gerrard, sissoko, yossi anyway..
    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N157190071003-1852.htm
    Peter Crouch returns to the Liverpool side to partner Fernando Torres up front against Marseille.
    Sebastian Leto also makes Rafa Benitez's starting XI, while for the visitors Djibril Cisse has to settle for a place on the bench.

    However, Bolo Zenden will line up against his former teammates.

    The Liverpool team in full: Reina, Finnan, Aurelio, Carragher, Hyypia, Sissoko, Gerrard, Benayoun, Leto, Torres, Crouch. Subs: Riise, Voronin, Arbeloa, Kuyt, Babel, Itandje, Mascherano.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Jasus a professional bunch (both setanta and RTE).

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    RTE seem to think Cisse is starting? Massive confusion over the line-ups! They had liverpool down as:

    Reina
    Finnan Carra Hyppia Arbeloa
    Gerrard Sissoko Mascherano Leto
    Torres Crouch

    Good work lads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Skittlebrau


    Sluggish is the word I keep hearing from the commentators over here and I'd have to agree. Our passing is nowhere near as crisp as it should be. Crossing from both sides is poor.

    Crouch, Leto and Aurelio have been very disappointing so far. Leto in particular, he can't seem to cross or beat his man.

    One of these days I'll manage to pick the starting line up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,796 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Liverpool seems to have a collective attack of the sissokos. Nobody seems to be able to pass. Setanta feed is stopping and starting like mad. Very hard to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Yeah its a very poor start. Extremely lucky not to be losing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭yom 1


    piss poor from liverpool so far nobody seems to want the ball. Goal should have stood and Marseille would be welll worth their lead.:mad:


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    RTE seem to think Cisse is starting? Massive confusion over the line-ups!

    im in chicago watching it on espn2 and they thought Cisse was starting too. the Irish colour commentator the americans have here is driving me nuts o and hes slating liverpools performance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    First touch has been awful with no ball retention, can't say anyone has looked good so far bar Reina.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Skittlebrau


    im in chicago watching it on espn2 and they thought Cisse was starting too. the Irish colour commentator the americans have here is driving me nuts o and hes slating liverpools performance



    Ah Tommy Smith, he's ruined many a match for me.

    Very poor first half. Would like to see Babel for Leto and Voronin or Kuyt on for Crouch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    They've all been muck. What the hell is happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Havnt got to see a close up but is that Bruno "Zidane" Cheyrou playing for Marseilles or a different guy?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its his brother! So he'll score from 30 yards.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Kulgan


    Lou Macari should learn the offside rule before he sits in a commentary box again, in fact he should just generally get a clue

    Yea Liverpool playing terrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Didnt think we could play any worse than the Porto game but Ive been proved wrong. Absolutely awful. Aurelio, Leto, Sissoko & Torres have been very poor. Specially Sissoko and Leto. Our passing has been so so sloppy, its hard and frustrating to watch. Leto seems to run into his man everytime he gets the ball. I counted Sissoko passing the ball to the opposition 5 times in the first 10 minutes. Liverpool are playing far too deep and arent supporting each other when in possession.

    Maybe im being a bit hard on Torres as its very hard for a striker to play well when hes not getting supported. The team as a whole seem to be struggling with the playing conditions as the pitch looks awfully slippy. I dont think it was offside so we are very lucky in that regard.
    Get Mascherano on for Sissoko immediately and bring Babel on for Leto pretty soon after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,067 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Kulgan wrote:
    Lou Macari should learn the offside rule before he sits in a commentary box again, in fact he should just generally get a clue

    Is Lou Macari the second commentator ? The guy who was saying that when it rebounded off the Liverpool player it shouldnt have been offside ? He has been annoying me since even before the game. Doesnt seem to have a clue, dont know HOW they let him on tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Can't blame Torres much he's not getting any supply.

    Mike.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Ah Tommy Smith, he's ruined many match for me.
    thats the guy, his face is almost as annoying as his voice. praising Finnan now, crouch getting ripped on though with leto. who he suggests should have been subbbed at half time.

    o heres the left boot of Thor, i mean Riise to change things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Skittlebrau


    Riise???? Sometimes I just don't get what Rafa is thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Good to see Crouch has been watching his Niall Quinn videos on the art of lifting your shoulders and pulling your head down to make it look like your jumping when your standing flat on the ground. FFs he's useless.

    He's leaving Crouch on. Boo urns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I see Ciise has changed anyway :D



    2000th post in the thread 1/5th of the way to being locked.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Well thats just no good.


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