Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

Tusky

Kanney wrote: »

Babel turning into quite the super sub. Great performance today, unhappy Torres didn't score. Hopefully he will start on Wednesday.

Yeah but the more I think about it the more unlikely it is. Crouch is favored in europe and only played a small part today. Voronin wasnt even in the squad so I'd say he will start alongside Crouch unfortunately.

This is my guess at what he will go for.

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Reina

Arbeloa---Carragher--Agger--Aurelio

Babel---Gerrard---Mascherano---Riise

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Crouch--Voronin

AdrianII

babel was great when he came on, but hats off to harry kewell he looked good today also

Captain Fantastic really lived up to his name today, he totally bossed the game,

i also really liked the way we played today 4-3-3 with stevie roaming, only downfall was momo sissoko, he lets himself down every game i see him play

Mental Mickey

AdrianII wrote: »

babel was great when he came on, but hats off to harry kewell he looked good today also

Captain Fantastic really lived up to his name today, he totally bossed the game,

i also really liked the way we played today 4-3-3 with stevie roaming, only downfall was momo sissoko, he lets himself down every game i see him play

Wasn't Sissoko being called the new Vieira in some quarters????

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL:D

Mental Mickey

Tusky wrote: »

Yeah but the more I think about it the more unlikely it is. Crouch is favored in europe and only played a small part today. Voronin wasnt even in the squad so I'd say he will start alongside Crouch unfortunately.

This is my guess at what he will go for.

---

Reina

Arbeloa---Carragher--Agger--Aurelio

Babel---Gerrard---Mascherano---Riise

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Crouch--Voronin

I hope he plays Finnan instead of Arbeloa. There's something I just don't like about dear old Alvaro.

AdrianII

he was but since he hurt his eye, he has never been the same

time to get rid of him and finalise the mascher deal

whatawaster

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I hope he plays Finnan instead of Arbeloa. There's something I just don't like about dear old Alvaro.

then he must play every game.

Mental Mickey

whatawaster wrote: »

then he must play every game.

Not necessarily(sp?)? Although I'd like to see him in the team more than Arbeloa.

Jazzy

um, why havent ppl ignored mental mickey yet ?
hes just a bit silly by the looks of it.


what do ya reckon the starting XI on wednesday will be?

Ill go with

Reina
Finna
Carragher
Agger
Arbeloa
Babel
benni (is he injured?) if not him then Kewell
G-Unit
Masch
Torres
Crouch

would like to see torres and crouch combine even if i do think kuyt is the better footballer

am i missing out on injuries btw? that squad doesnt feel right to me and im not bothered checking

Mental Mickey

Jazzy wrote: »

um, why havent ppl ignored mental mickey yet ?
hes just a bit silly by the looks of it.


what do ya reckon the starting XI on wednesday will be?

Ill go with

Reina
Finna
Carragher
Agger
Arbeloa
Babel
benni (is he injured?) if not him then Kewell
G-Unit
Masch
Torres
Crouch

would like to see torres and crouch combine even if i do think kuyt is the better footballer

am i missing out on injuries btw? that squad doesnt feel right to me and im not bothered checking

Snap.

mike65

That looks good on paper, I think Kewell will start again though as CL tempo and reffing will suit him perfectly.

Mike.

whatawaster

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Not necessarily(sp?)? Although I'd like to see him in the team more than Arbeloa.

er, I was talking about Arbeloa playing every game. If you don't like him, given your eye for a player, i'd start him regularly.

Mental Mickey

Jazzy wrote: »

um, why havent ppl ignored mental mickey yet ?
hes just a bit silly by the looks of it.


what do ya reckon the starting XI on wednesday will be?

Ill go with

Reina
Finna
Carragher
Agger
Arbeloa
Babel
benni (is he injured?) if not him then Kewell
G-Unit
Masch
Torres
Crouch
would like to see torres and crouch combine even if i do think kuyt is the better footballer

am i missing out on injuries btw? that squad doesnt feel right to me and im not bothered checking

I'd agree with that, except I'd change Crouch for Kuyt. And Alonso(if fit) for G-Unit(LOL), or Masch. And maybe Riise for me old mate Alvaro too.........?

HashSlinging

Think Andriy Veronin will start and will partner crouch, the two of them are on fire at the moment.

Reina
Finna
Carragher
Sami
Arbeloa
Babel
benni
Gerrard
Masch
Veronin
Crouch

~Rebel~

Is Yossi definately fit? If so i'd love to see;

Reina
Finnan
Agger/Hypia
Carra
Arbeloa
Yossi
Kewell
Gerrard
Mascherano
Torres
Voronin

With Babel coming on for a half hour, same as today.

Hoping for quick attacking football and a heavy win! (since i'll be at it )

Tusky

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I'd agree with that, except I'd change Crouch for Kuyt. And Alonso(if fit) for G-Unit(LOL), or Masch. And maybe Riise for me old mate Alvaro too.........?

Heh. you are definitely a troll. Arbeloa has been one of our best performers this season. Riise has been our worst along with Sissoko. Alonso isnt even nearly fit.

Benayoun wont be back for about another 10 days. 28th December for Alonso.

~Rebel~

Tusky wrote: »

Benayoun wont be back for about another 10 days. 28th December for Alonso.

In that case ill go for Kewell and Babel as the wingers. I hope Babel can do from the start what he's been doing from the bench his last few games. Starting to look more like the star of last summers U-21's games again.

Mental Mickey

Tusky wrote: »

Heh. you are definitely a troll. Arbeloa has been one of our best performers this season. Riise has been our worst along with Sissoko. Alonso isnt even nearly fit.

Benayoun wont be back for about another 10 days. 28th December for Alonso.

I did say "Alonso - if fit". I didn't know he wouldn't be back until the end of December.

I don't think that's "trolling".

~Rebel~

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I did say "Alonso - if fit". I didn't know he wouldn't be back until the end of December.

I don't think that's "trolling".

I think he was more alluding to wanting Riise (one of our most disappointing players this season) to come in replacing Arbeloa (one of our best and consistant players this season).

Tusky

~Rebel~ wrote: »

In that case ill go for Kewell and Babel as the wingers. I hope Babel can do from the start what he's been doing from the bench his last few games. Starting to look more like the star of last summers U-21's games again.

Indeed. Wasnt sure about him on the left wing as he seemed to come inside every single time and didn't really look like a winger. He looks much more comfortable on the right. Hes very strong & quick and has a terrific shot. Have noticed him improving slowly but surely with every game. Have to keep reminding myself that hes only 20..

Guy:Incognito

copacetic wrote: »

if kuyt was standing up players in the area and waltzing by them like they weren't there i'd be feckin delighted, even if he didn't finish them all. Torres seems to make a lot of his own chances which makes all the difference.

Torres got the chance to hit the post for the open goal becuase of Kuyt's workrate. He made the run with Torres and got himself involved when the ball broke twice to nick the ball to Torres. He was lurking and being a nuisance for a couple of other Torres chances.

His work rate created a lot today. He's never going to bang in goals and be the main striker. He works really well with Torres, the besty partnership imo, and does a lot of donkey rok for him that directly or indiresctly leads to chances. That sort of input cannot be underestimated.

Mental Mickey

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I think he was more alluding to wanting Riise (one of our most disappointing players this season) to come in replacing Arbeloa (one of our best and consistant players this season).

I think Riise's dip in form is due to his personal problems?? Wasn't he declared bankrupt a while ago? I think the worst thing that can be done to someone who's confidence is low, is drop him?

Tusky

But Riise has been off his best for a few seasons now. Anyway, doesnt matter what personal problems he is having, hes a professional and he shouldnt let it effect him on the pitch. Kuyts dad died recently, England didnt qualify for Euro08 and Gerrard was booed every time he got the ball today, Crouch was attacked by the press when he joined...everyone has personal problems.

Mental Mickey

Tusky wrote: »

But Riise has been off his best for a few seasons now.

Maybe he'll be sold in January......? Anything could happen with Rafa in charge!

zAbbo

Skipped over most responses here, so apologies if this has been already covered, but I don't buy the 'accommodated' argument.

Players like Gerrard don't have to rigidly stick to a formation, Remember it's sky tv who put him down as a right sided player, even though he never lines up that way.

Gerrard did nothing, apart from score, setup another, and create chances.

All said and done, Liverpool are 3 off United with a game in hand, and I'd rather have the problem of how to 'accomodate' Gerrard, than wonder why I wasted 60-70m on midfielders, why Rooney is so injury prone, whats wrong with Saha, and why I rested Ronaldo...

Who knows with AF

Jazzy

Tusky wrote: »

Heh. you are definitely a troll. Arbeloa has been one of our best performers this season. Riise has been our worst along with Sissoko. Alonso isnt even nearly fit.

Benayoun wont be back for about another 10 days. 28th December for Alonso.

nah its cool.
negative troll tbh.

and if u like comedy this is the news!


sissoko is sh1te tho. Riise is good, id keep him. as far as im concerned, we should be in no rush to sell a versatile Left sided player who had a howitzer inserted where his foot should be aged 12

Mental Mickey

Jazzy wrote: »

nah its cool.
negative troll tbh.

and if u like comedy this is the news!


sissoko is sh1te tho. Riise is good, id keep him. as far as im concerned, we should be in no rush to sell a versatile Left sided player who had a howitzer inserted where his foot should be aged 12

lol:D

~Rebel~

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I think Riise's dip in form is due to his personal problems?? Wasn't he declared bankrupt a while ago? I think the worst thing that can be done to someone who's confidence is low, is drop him?

The whole bankruptcy thing is a non starter. He has a debt with a previous agent that he dropped, and getting officially called bankrupt at his current address was something along the lines of his solicitors method of trying to get the payment annulled.

To put it in perspective, the amount of debt this was over is only 2 of his weeks wages. I.E Not a big personal problem.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go to Villa for 6 or 7 million, but id be just as happy keeping him. Versatile player who is very handy to have in case of injury, i just dont want him being a starter unless he vastly improves, because put simply, we've got better players.

Mental Mickey

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The whole bankruptcy thing is a non starter. He has a debt with a previous agent that he dropped, and getting officially called bankrupt at his current address was something along the lines of his solicitors method of trying to get the payment annulled.

To put it in perspective, the amount of debt this was over is only 2 of his weeks wages. I.E Not a big personal problem.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go to Villa for 6 or 7 million, but id be just as happy keeping him. Versatile player who is very handy to have in case of injury, i just dont want him being a starter unless he vastly improves, because put simply, we've got better players.

I'd like Rafa to keep him, but ya never know what he(Rafa) is going to do next?

Guy:Incognito

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I'd like Rafa to keep him, but ya never know what he(Rafa) is going to do next?

Is that some form of question?

Mental Mickey

Stekelly wrote: »

Is that some form of question?

No.

Guy:Incognito

Mental Mickey wrote: »

No.

Fair enough, it's just the question mark at the end of the sentence threw me.

Mental Mickey

Stekelly wrote: »

Fair enough, it's just the question mark at the end of the sentence threw me.

I just put it in cos I(like a lot of Pool fans) am wondering what the hell Rafa is going to with the team next week........

Guy:Incognito

I only just realised something. I watched the game from about 40 min son and just watched the highlights on MOTD, only after that did it dawn on me I never even realised Carra or Arbeloa were playing, and the only reason I saw Finnan and Hyypia was from when Finnan was stood on and Hyypia got the flick on for Kuyt's goal.

Not often you go through a match and highlights without realising who's playing in your defence. No bad thing.:)

Mental Mickey

Stekelly wrote: »

I only just realised something. I watched the game from about 40 min son and just watched the highlights on MOTD, only after that did it dawn on me I never even realised Carra or Arbeloa were playing, and the only reason I saw Finnan and Hyypia was from when Finnan was stood on and Hyypia got the flick on for Kuyt's goal.

Not often you go through a match and highlights without realising who's playing in your defence. No bad thing.:)

lol

Tusky

Stekelly wrote: »

I only just realised something. I watched the game from about 40 min son and just watched the highlights on MOTD, only after that did it dawn on me I never even realised Carra or Arbeloa were playing, and the only reason I saw Finnan and Hyypia was from when Finnan was stood on and Hyypia got the flick on for Kuyt's goal.

Not often you go through a match and highlights without realising who's playing in your defence. No bad thing.:)

Newcastle didn't have a shot on target the whole game!

- Is that Chris Morris clip real or is the whole thing staged ? Brass eye, Day today & Jam.

Mental Mickey

I bet Sam Allardyce is rueing going "oop north" now, eh??

Mental Mickey

I just read on Ceefax that Rafa Benitez has accused Tom Hicks & George Gillett of "not understanding what the January transfer window is all about". If I was Rafa Benitez, I'd keep my mouth shut, and get on with the job in hand.....

copacetic

Mental Mickey wrote: »

If I was Rafa Benitez, I'd keep my mouth shut, and get on with the job in hand.....

so thats the only hope we have of you keeping it shut?

Mental Mickey

copacetic wrote: »

so thats the only hope we have of you keeping it shut?

Oh, cheer up will ya?

Tusky

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I just read on Ceefax that Rafa Benitez has accused Tom Hicks & George Gillett of "not understanding what the January transfer window is all about". If I was Rafa Benitez, I'd keep my mouth shut, and get on with the job in hand.....

Ceefax ? And here was I thinking you were savy to some sort of inside information.

They are just referring to what he said in the post match interview.

Mental Mickey

Tusky wrote: »

Ceefax ? And here was I thinking you were savy to some sort of inside information.

They are just referring to what he said in the post match interview.

Which I didn't see......hence that's why I quoted Ceefax.

Goodnight.

~Rebel~

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Which I didn't see......hence that's why I quoted Ceefax.

Goodnight.

The way it was said was actually quite grand. He was obviously asked about what happened so he just explained that they dont quite realise about the work that must be done before the transfer window so available targets dont get snapped up, and that he is doing it in the best interests of the club, and that they have the clubs best interests at heart too, but just wouldn't have seen anything like the european transfer window before so don't know of the workings required. Was all said with a smile on his face, quite pleasant and he also said the England job thing wasn't serious.

Tusky

Comparison to last season.

2006

1. Manu 13 34
2. Cheslki 13 31
10. Liverpool... 13 18

Positon: 10th,
Distance to first place: 15 points,
Distance to second: 12 points.
Goals scored :14
Goals conceded: 15

2007

1. Arsenal 13 33
2. Manu 14 30
5. Liverpool 13 27

Position : 5th
Distance to first place : 6 points
Distance to second : 3 points
Goals scored: 22
Goals conceded: 6

lordgoat

Tusky wrote: »

Comparison to last season.

2006

1. Manu 13 34
2. Cheslki 13 31
10. Liverpool... 13 18

Positon: 10th,
Distance to first place: 15 points,
Distance to second: 12 points.
Goals scored :14
Goals conceded: 15

2007

1. Arsenal 13 33
2. Manu 14 30
5. Liverpool 13 27

Position : 5th
Distance to first place : 6 points
Distance to second : 3 points
Goals scored: 22
Goals conceded: 6

So by that logic???

Tusky

lordgoat wrote: »

So by that logic???

eh...we have improved significantly.

Mr Alan

2006 : Lucas (Grêmio)
2005 : Carlos Tévez (Corinthians)
2004 : Robinho (Santos FC)
2003 : Alex (Cruzeiro)
2002 : Kaká (São Paulo FC)
2001 : Alex Mineiro (Atlético Paranaense)
2000 : Romario (Vasco da Gama)
1999 : Marcelinho (Corinthians)
1998 : Edilson (Corinthians)
1997 : Edmundo (Vasco da Gama)
1996 : Djalminha (Palmeiras)
1995 : Giovanni (Santos FC)
1994 : Amoroso (Guarani)
1993 : César Sampaio (Palmeiras)
1992 : Júnior (Flamengo)
1991 : Mauro Silva (Bragantino)
1990 : César Sampaio (Santos FC)

Leiva is a ****ing class little player, was so excited about seein him for us this year and he hasnt once disappointed.

great result today.

where is all the negative ****ers from the last efw weeks now? delightful.;)

Dont be at yourself

Tusky, at times I feel it's only yourself and myself with any bit of optimism on here!

Bring on Porto

Lex Luthor

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I just read on Ceefax that Rafa Benitez has accused Tom Hicks & George Gillett of "not understanding what the January transfer window is all about". If I was Rafa Benitez, I'd keep my mouth shut, and get on with the job in hand.....

Well Rafa is entitled to his opinon but he shouldn't be talking about his feelings towards his bosses in public. Its not good

Tusky wrote: »

Comparison to last season.

2006

1. Manu 13 34
2. Cheslki 13 31
10. Liverpool... 13 18

Positon: 10th,
Distance to first place: 15 points,
Distance to second: 12 points.
Goals scored :14
Goals conceded: 15

2007

1. Arsenal 13 33
2. Manu 14 30
5. Liverpool 13 27

Position : 5th
Distance to first place : 6 points
Distance to second : 3 points
Goals scored: 22
Goals conceded: 6

Ya those stats are good and with Liverpool really not playing particularly well according to most pundits its nice reading. However, they need to beat Man U next month or it will all be for nothing. All this without Agger as well.

bbop

big story today in the News of the World (yes i know hardly the most relliable) that Rafa's sacking is imminent and that Mourinho is lined up to take over. I think this is very possible, maybe not in the next few weeks but definatly in the summer

Thanx 4 The Fish

I would not like Mourinho as manager. didn't like him at Chelsea and would not like him at Anfield.

I do not think Rafa will be sacked and I do think that the explanation that he gave yesterday was good enough for the owners for the reasons that he was upset.