Bring me your "shoegazing" memories!

Dudess

My reaction to that is a double - nay quadruple - :eek:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You were born in 1991? Good God, why does Boards have to make me feel so old?! I'm young, goddammit!!! (ish)

Cheers for the House of Love info, nlgbbbblth.

SligoBrewer wrote:

eh.. for us n00b's shoegazing..

blur , verve , my bloody valentine et al yeah?

Sorta. Only very early Blur (up to around the time you were born, if not before that :eek:) and Verve (up to around when you were starting to walk - ah this shít's depressing me!). My Bloody Valentine - yes!!
Read the opening post - it's long-winded (as are many of my posts ) but informative and interesting, dammit!

SligoBrewer

Dudess wrote:

My reaction to that is a double - nay quadruple - :eek:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You were born in 1991? Good God, why does Boards have to make me feel so old?! I'm young, goddammit!!! (ish)

Cheers for the House of Love info, nlgbbbblth.


Sorta. Only very early Blur (up to around the time you were born, if not before that :eek:) and Verve (up to around when you were starting to walk - ah this shít's depressing me!). My Bloody Valentine - yes!!
Read the opening post - it's long-winded (as are many of my posts ) but informative and interesting, dammit!

well barely 1991. new years day:D
makes it a bit easier to swallow..


ah right.. must get the early blur albums actually.
later verve not included.. hmmmm no urban hymns?

is this demo stage blur or is did they have albums out?

Dudess

SligoBrewer wrote:

well barely 1991. new years day:D
makes it a bit easier to swallow..

Oh MUCH easier.:rolleyes: I actually remember new year's day 1991 very well indeed.

ah right.. must get the early blur albums actually.

The Blur album in question would be Leisure (1991) - not that it's all shoegazing or anything, but there are a couple of tracks that fit the blueprint. Modern Life is Rubbish is the follow-up album (1993) and that's more brit-poppy.

later verve not included.. hmmmm no urban hymns?

Nope. Not at all. Urban Hymns is 1997. I'm talking about their stuff in 1992/93 - when they were just called Verve (and when they were actually good).

Crumble Froo

mmm... ride.

i got a polar bear, with teh lyrics 'she knew she was able to fly' written over it tattood on me a coupla weeks ago :cool:

Crumble Froo

Dudess wrote:

I love the way this shoegazing nostalgia is bringing back memories of other types of music that was out at the time and that you'd associate with shoegazing, even if it wasn't actually shoegazing.


Ah you have surely??!! If you haven't heard of them you've definitely heard their better known songs.

lol... just put on new order - blue monday (after a quick google)...

ahhh... that song!

too electro for me really... catchy... but the tinny drum noise just annoys.

nlgbbbblth

House of Love

really enjoyed that.
They sounded great.
Bickers looked younger than most people there.

Very sparse attendance - 150 max I'd say. €25 would be a bit steep for some people and we were trying to figure out who the promoters were.

Album sounded deadly played in order. Fabulous encore choices - Flow, Welt, Real Animal, Shine On and of course Destroy The Heart.
Nice to see the two of them come back for a second one. They certainly looked happy.

Dudess - did you make it down?

Dudess

Unfortunately not, I had to go to a 30th. Yeah, Bickers was always very baby-faced. Good you enjoyed it.
I watched the repeat of the Factory Records documentary last night - fantastic. It's on again during the week - late though.

narco wrote:

lol... just put on new order - blue monday (after a quick google)...

ahhh... that song!

too electro for me really... catchy... but the tinny drum noise just annoys.

Yeah I'm not bothered with their stuff after 1989 (apart from Crystal - fab song, you'd know it from a Lifestyle Sports ad). Their stuff throughout the eighties was a mixture of electro and guitar - I prefer the rockier stuff. Some amazing stuff there. Do you know New Order's previous incarnation, Joy Division? (They became New Order after their lead singer Ian Curtis committed suicide). Legendary band. I think you'd prefer them to New Order. They were AMAZING. There's a film about them coming out shortly - it's called Control and it's specifically about Ian Curtis, who's become a major icon.

Crumble Froo

Dudess wrote:

Unfortunately not, I had to go to a 30th. Yeah, Bickers was always very baby-faced. Good you enjoyed it.
I watched the repeat of the Factory Records documentary last night - fantastic. It's on again during the week - late though.


Yeah I'm not bothered with their stuff after 1989 (apart from Crystal - fab song, you'd know it from a Lifestyle Sports ad). Their stuff throughout the eighties was a mixture of electro and guitar - I prefer the rockier stuff. Some amazing stuff there. Do you know New Order's previous incarnation, Joy Division? (They became New Order after their lead singer Ian Curtis committed suicide). Legendary band. I think you'd prefer them to New Order. They were AMAZING. There's a film about them coming out shortly - it's called Control and it's specifically about Ian Curtis, who's become a major icon.

*sniff* no reaction to my tattoo news! haha! ill have to check all that stuff now. admittedly, ive been on the JD for about 8hrs now, so this post is taking longer than it should. and ive music on way loud behind me ... so hopefully ill remember to check this threadin the morning and check all that stuff out then.


you check out elbow yet? i had their 'leaders of the free world' dvd, but happened to come across their 'cast of thousands' cd+dvd for a tenner in tower records and bought it, which is awesome. didnt know it existed before that, but after quick consulatation with the b/f i snatched it up damn quick

Dudess

I'm so sorry, I did mean to say something about your tattoo! It sounds fabulous darling!
I have indeed been checking out Elbow and I'm liking what I'm hearing.
Christ, JD for eight hours - ouch! Definitely check out Joy Division - I really think you'd love them.

Crumble Froo

heh, make that 12hrs, i eventually stumbled to bed in and around 3am last night. i've since gotten up without my glasses and im really hoping i find them soon, as they are more necessary than food to me....

yay for checking out elbow! i've been getting as many people as possible into them, they are just such a good band, and there are sooooooooo many people who've just never heard of them at all.

ill check out joy division soon. my housemate's in bed, so no music allowed now (particularly after my stumbling up to bed last night and more than likely waking them both up), but it is now written on my hand in permanant marker, and i will check them out in the noon

John

On a related note, Joy Division's albums have been just reissued with bonus discs, each one is a previously unreleased live gig. Picked up Still yesterday but haven't had a chance to listen to the bonus disc yet.

Crumble Froo

cool. i checked them out on youtube there, pretty good, though after about 4 songs, the music stopped and i didnt notice for a coupla minutes, and when i did go back to the window, i had an option of elbow's fugitive motel, or ... dammit... that really sweet slow one with the lighthouse...

anywho, ive been on an elbow kick ever since

DerekD Goldfish

John wrote:

On a related note, Joy Division's albums have been just reissued with bonus discs, each one is a previously unreleased live gig. Picked up Still yesterday but haven't had a chance to listen to the bonus disc yet.

On the whole re-releases thing re-issuing albums and changing the tracklisting or tacking on bonus tracks at the end should be a capital offense.
Albums should only be re-issued the same as they were originally released any deviation damages the album as a piece of Art.
If these tracks were good enough they would have been on the original album additional b-sides,demo tracks,live tracks etc should only be released separate for the original albums.

John

I agree with you but you know that's how the industry works, reissue the album with stuff people won't necessarily buy separately but tempts them into buying something they already own. Bands like Wire and Low have the right idea, Wire with their recent reissues being available separately and as a box (and all the bonuses in the box being given a separate reissue) and Low's box set of rareties being a completely different release to their albums. However, I still end up buying reissues with a big enough bonus as I'm weak that way. *sigh*

donaghs

I loved Ride and MBV at the time, only got into Slowdive after they started to wind down. After Pygmalian... Great times to be an Idie-kid, before the arrival of Oasis et al. Liked Swervedriver too, but they were past their peak when I got into them.

Got any recommendations recent bands that have the shoegaze sound, and of course are very good?

Dudess

It was indeed a great time to be an indie kid - an absolutely golden era for music. Grrr! Don't talk to me about Oasis etc. I think Britpop was the start of generic, bland "indie" as we know it.

nlgbbbblth

donaghs wrote:

I loved Ride and MBV at the time, only got into Slowdive after they started to wind down. After Pygmalian... Great times to be an Idie-kid, before the arrival of Oasis et al. Liked Swervedriver too, but they were past their peak when I got into them.

Got any recommendations recent bands that have the shoegaze sound, and of course are very good?

Ulrich Schnauss.

Monster Movie.

check out Morr Music's compilation Blue Skied An' Clear.

Half devoted to Slowdive covers. Other half new tunes.
http://www.discogs.com/release/58157

John

Fennesz's album <i>Venice</i> has that beautiful, dreamy textured sound that defines shoegaze for me. Highly recommended.

Blackhorse Slim

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Monster Movie.

Did they take their name from the album by krautrockers Can? If so, do you know if there is a Can influence? I'm a bit of a Can-fan

nlgbbbblth

Blackhorse Slim wrote:

Did they take their name from the album by krautrockers Can? If so, do you know if there is a Can influence? I'm a bit of a Can-fan

Hmmm, one of Monster Movie, Christian Savill was in Slowdive.
Dreamy stuff.

My favourite Can LP is Tago Mago.

MattKid

Slowdive are now Mojave 3

Outer Bongolia

funktastic wrote: »

I forgot to mention Seefeel 'Quique'. Recently re-released with extra tracks. Really unique band. Excellent album.

****n love Seefeel

Hmmm, one of Monster Movie, Christian Savill was in Slowdive.
Dreamy stuff.

My favourite Can LP is Tago Mago.

excellent

Can are the greatest. band. ever.

ANarcho-Munk

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Swervedriver too. Especially the debut LP Raise.

Also the criminally out of print Mezcal Head. There's loads of free songs on the Swervedriver website too if your interested.

Dudess

Oh brilliant. Thanks for that, ANarcho.

the hero game

funny dudess, i was discussing shoegazing on a different site today (see www.alt-country.org - the thread should be still quite current, lots of great memories..)
i haven't read this entire thread but i would def 2nd the rollerskate skinny plaudits for 'horsedrawn wishes'.. utterly incredible..
also drop nineteens - 'delaware' is a fine US 'gazin' album from the mid90s..
swervedriver - 'duel' is one of my fav songs..
dudess - 'vapour trail' - i have a cover of that by a band called trespassers william.. it's slowed down with a female vocal and it's unbelieveably gorgeous..
(PS thanks again for the reply on another thread, u know the one, i suppose it is linked in some way to this one!.. ha)

the hero game

so now i have read the entire thread.. ahh, great stuff.. i see drop 19s and swervedriver were mentioned already so, deadly.. i may have to take that recommendation and get the s'driver albums 'cause i just rem. the track 'duel'.. tho' i've promised myself to stop spening so much on amazon every other day, i'm broke..

love teenage fanclub too, i think they still do some great stuff.. some great tracks on 'manmade' and the new stuff on the best of a few years ago.. tho' def. not shoe-gazin'..

good to see the charlatans mentioned.. i think 'up to our hips' is genius, tho' it's 'baggy' i guess not 'gazin'..

there was an album by the radio dept. a few years ago and many loved it, claiming it to be modern 'gazin'.. i didn't think that much of it tbh..

everyone else like 'control' the ian curtis bipoic?.. amazing.. been listening to 'closer' a lot ever since i saw it..

i was in the voodoo lounge one thursday night a few months ago and a couple of girls happened to be DJin' shoegazin' stuff all night, it was great..

i'm tryin' to rem. a short-lived club i used to go to on a wednesday night in dublin c.centre, i rem. once they played 'soon' by MBV, it was a great dunken blissful moment.. i'm sure i remember hearing 'speed to my side' by r skinny the same night.. and tricky's 'black steel'.. tho i'm going off the subject now.. although triphop = shoegazing??.. maybe.. .. ??
would sigur rós be considered modern shoegazin'?.. regardless, see related thread!.. they're amazing

the hero game

what about red house painters?
ok i think they are a category all to themselves but what a band.. saw mark kozelek at whelans the other week, amazing..

nlgbbbblth

the hero game wrote: »

i'm tryin' to rem. a short-lived club i used to go to on a wednesday night in dublin c.centre, i rem. once they played 'soon' by MBV, it was a great dunken blissful moment.. i'm sure i remember hearing 'speed to my side' by r skinny the same night.. and tricky's 'black steel'.. tho i'm going off the subject now.. although triphop = shoegazing??.. maybe.. .. ??
would sigur rós be considered modern shoegazin'?.. regardless, see related thread!.. they're amazing

Dazed?

Dudess

the hero game wrote: »

thanks again for the reply on another thread, u know the one, i suppose it is linked in some way to this one!.. ha)

No probs. And a lot of the stuff you mentioned wouldn't actually be shoegazing but it's all from the same era. For instance, I associate Ned's Atomic Dustbin and The Wedding Present with shoegazing simply because they were also popular at the time - 1991 direction.
Can't find the thread you were talking about on that other site - what's it called?

the hero game

Dazed! yes that's the one - i actually remembered the name in the middle of the night.. i think i found out about it, went a couple of times, loved it and then it stopped..

Hermy

I must have been born yesterday or something. I love Loveless yet I've never come across the term Shoegazing before. I now have a lot of not-so-recently-released music to go and investigate. I suppose I only really started paying attention when grunge and dance music were ruling the airwaves but Lush, Slowdive, Rollerskate Skinny and others all ring bells. Do you consider Sonic Youth Shoegazers or do you only mention them as an influence? For what it's worth I love Sonic Youth, especially NYC Ghosts! 1990 seems so far away now. There was so much music going on then and seventeen years later it seems I'm still not finished exploring the soundtrack of my youth.
So thanks for a great thread Dudess.:)

Dudess

Glad to do so, Hermy! Yes indeed, Sonic Youth were a massive influence. They're mentioned somewhere on this thread all right.

kryptyk500

ANarcho-Munk wrote: »

Also the criminally out of print Mezcal Head. There's loads of free songs on the Swervedriver website too if your interested.

Swervedriver are due to reform next year for a tour. Hopefully they will make it to Dublin. As well as Mezcal Head, it's worth trying to track down their 3rd album Ejector Seat Reservation which is just as good.

Also worth checking out is Bolts of Melody, the solo album by Adam Franklin, the lead singer from Swervedriver.

jd

So anyone get MBV tickets? Any rumours of Irish Gigs?
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.co.uk/

ATP Concerts are very proud to present my bloody valentine who will return to play in Summer 2008 across the UK. The band will take to three cities London, Manchester and Glasgow.
The following three dates have been annou

nlgbbbblth

jd wrote: »

So anyone get MBV tickets? Any rumours of Irish Gigs?
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.co.uk/

Got tickets for Manchester 29 June.

John

I got tickets for London 20th June. There's a thread here if you're interested.

BarryCreed

kryptyk500 wrote: »

Swervedriver are due to reform next year for a tour. Hopefully they will make it to Dublin. As well as Mezcal Head, it's worth trying to track down their 3rd album Ejector Seat Reservation which is just as good.

Also worth checking out is Bolts of Melody, the solo album by Adam Franklin, the lead singer from Swervedriver.

i agree! I have 2 swervedriver albums, ejector seat reservation and 99th Dream, and the best of. Id like to track down their first 2 albums, but they seem to be out of print. great band, as is adam franklins solo album. hopefully they'll make it to dublin....

fender jazzmasters!!

fourmations

hi all

just copped this thread

i was 16-18 when all this shoegaze went down
and it was right up my alley

loved ride, swerevedriver, mbv, chapterhouse, cocteaus etc

saw Ride in Mc gonagles
saw MBV in the stadium,
saw and met swervedriver in the rock garden (e dorans)

i have all the MBV, slowdive, swervedriver, ride chapterhouse
ep's and albums on vinyl still, still listen to it all (well, not the vinyl anymore)

i had the mark gardener haircut and wore longsleeve white tees
and basically "nowhere" was the most importnat album of my life

mono are modern shoegazers that are pretty cool
very washy and more like slowdive than anyone else

hey barry,i know you from instruments
see why i got my JM!

ciao

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BarryCreed

fourmations wrote: »

hey barry,i know you from instruments
see why i got my JM!

ciao

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ill get one of those yet!! came across a band called "six by seven" who , from what i heard sound a bit shoegazey. Think they were around in 98/99

ANarcho-Munk

BarryCreed wrote: »

i agree! I have 2 swervedriver albums, ejector seat reservation and 99th Dream, and the best of. Id like to track down their first 2 albums, but they seem to be out of print. great band, as is adam franklins solo album. hopefully they'll make it to dublin....

fender jazzmasters!!

I'm pretty sure Mezcal Head is up for download on their site as well as a load of other b-sides and rarities.

Criminally out of print.

Blackhorse Slim

I can't believe this thread is still going!

Anyway, here's some American shoegaze; The Lassie Foundation

radiospan

Thought some people here might like this: Rob Da Bank had a 2 hour shoegaze special on Radio 1 a few nights ago.

Rob da Bank & Friends - 'Shoegazing Special'

My Bloody Valentine - 'Only Shallow' (Sire)
Japan Cakes - 'Touched' Ricardo Tobar Mix (Sonic Cathedral)
Ulrich Schnauss - 'A Letter From Home' (City Centre Offices)
Dinosaur Junior - 'Freak Scene' (Blast First)
Slowdive - 'Catch The Breeze' (Creation)
Manual - 'Blue Skied An' Clear' (Morr Music)
Cocteau Twins - 'Cherry Coloured Funk' Seefeel Mix (4AD)
Chapterhouse - 'Pearl' (Dedicated)
Nathan Fake - 'The Sky Was Pink' (Border Community)
Maps - 'To The Sky' M83 Mix (Sonic Cathedral)
Ariel - 'Sugar Crystals ' (Highwheel)

Ride - 'Vapour Trail' (Creation)
Jesus & The Mary Chain - 'Just The Honey' (Blanco Y Negro)
Velvet Underground - 'I Heard Her Call My Name' (Verve)
Boards Of Canada - 'Zoetrope' (Warp)
M83 - 'Teen Angst' (Mute)
Lush - 'Sweetness & Light' Orange Squash Mix (Astralwerks)
Pale Saints - 'Sight Of You' (4AD)
Engineers - '3 Fact Fader' (Echo)
School Of Seven Bells - 'My Cable' Robin Guthrie Mix (Sonic Cathedral)
Spiritualized - 'If I Were With Her Now' (Dedicated)

It's on the listen again player here until Sunday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/robdabank/ or PM me for an mp3 of the show.

Dudess

Whither Moose? The Boo Radleys? Curve? The House of Love? Cranes? Kitchens of Distinction? Swervedriver?

Tut tut. Won't do at all. Seriously, he could have done a lot better.

KrazeeEyezKilla

F**kin' hell that intro on the My Bloddy Valentine song is incredible. I'd heard a couple of their songs before but not that one.

Dudess

Yeah it's stunning isn't it? What a way to open the album.

fourmations

i dont really know why swervedriver got lumped
in the shoegazing thing, theyre not really shoegazer music

rgds
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Dudess

Well it's a pretty loose term - I don't think Lush belonged in there either, or Curve. But what all the bands had in common was much of use of feedback and loadza noise, combined with some beautiful melodies.