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HDMI enabled Premium out in U.K. next week?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    More concerned about when the new processors will be used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭stereo_steve


    Why?

    Surely if the new motherboard and new heat pipe resolves the RROD it makes zero difference? Other than the cost to produce from Microsoft's perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭Kenny_D


    Smaller processors will produce less heat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    if my 360 dies what are the chances of getting an Elite? assuming they dont have any normal ones left.

    3 year warranty could be a good thing ;)

    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Premiums will be around for a good while yet, so unless it dies in about 5 years there's probably little hope unless you put the difference in cost to it :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    Thinks of trading in my Premium for the Elite though. It's getting a bit strange and slow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    I bought my Premium this weekend and a hdtv. But the tv is only hdmi capable, anyone know of any way around this? An adapter or anything? Any help would be appreciated, cheers.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Moiph wrote:
    I bought my Premium this weekend and a hdtv. But the tv is only hdmi capable, anyone know of any way around this? An adapter or anything? Any help would be appreciated, cheers.

    Are you sure there's no component or vga input? Or even dvi?

    If it only accepts hi-def via hdmi then I'm afraid you're kinda screwed. The premium 360 has an analogue video board and hdmi is digital only so even if there was such an adapter it wouldn't work. The only solution would be a analogue to digital converter which are ridiculously expensive.

    You're best bet is to try and return the tv for with one a component input, or return the 360 and wait for the Elite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    cant you get adaptors that make the premium hdmi capable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    Are you sure there's no component or vga input? Or even dvi?

    If it only accepts hi-def via hdmi then I'm afraid you're kinda screwed. The premium 360 has an analogue video board and hdmi is digital only so even if there was such an adapter it wouldn't work. The only solution would be a analogue to digital converter which are ridiculously expensive.

    You're best bet is to try and return the tv for with one a component input, or return the 360 and wait for the Elite.


    There is a VGA input and I know I can get a VGA cable for the 360, but even then I still have to plug in the audio components. The only inputs I can see for them are 2 PC audio ones next to the VGA input. If they worked, I still have a slight problem, on the red and white components theres like little plates around the connection that keep it held in when you plug it into an input eg the scart connection. Those little plates are stopping the components from slotting in correctly to the PC audio inputs on the tv


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    cant you get adaptors that make the premium hdmi capable?

    No the current premiums can't output digital video. And HDMI is digital only. I suppose MS could release a very expensive adapter but the converted signal would be lossy, defeating the whole point of hdmi.

    The new premiums that just arrived in the States have hdmi.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Moiph wrote:
    There is a VGA input and I know I can get a VGA cable for the 360, but even then I still have to plug in the audio components. The only inputs I can see for them are 2 PC audio ones next to the VGA input. If they worked, I still have a slight problem, on the red and white components theres like little plates around the connection that keep it held in when you plug it into an input eg the scart connection. Those little plates are stopping the components from slotting in correctly to the PC audio inputs on the tv

    As long as there's VGA there you should be fine. There are ways around the audio, adapters etc. The red and white composite connections should work though.

    I've heard VGA looks better than component anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    Any ideas how to how to get round the audio situation? Other than having to buy a surround sound system or something :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Those red and white inputs should work. Are you sure they won't fit? What does the manual say? There has to be audio input for the VGA or else there's something wrong with the tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭Conar


    Moiph wrote:
    There is a VGA input and I know I can get a VGA cable for the 360, but even then I still have to plug in the audio components. The only inputs I can see for them are 2 PC audio ones next to the VGA input. If they worked, I still have a slight problem, on the red and white components theres like little plates around the connection that keep it held in when you plug it into an input eg the scart connection. Those little plates are stopping the components from slotting in correctly to the PC audio inputs on the tv

    Sounds a little odd.

    What type of TV is it?

    My samsung has 2 phono connectors beside the VGA input but you actually need to use a 3.5mm audio input which is black and almost invisible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    Well I'm gonna presume that the 2 PC audio inputs are for the VGA cos a VGA cable is technically meant to be used if you're using the lcd tv as a monitor for the PC isnt it? Or so I've been told anyway.

    They do fit in, but they're very loose and look like they'd fall out if they have any weight on them.

    Its a Mirai LCD Conar, probably my own fault for buying a cheap enough lcd! It looked good at the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭Conar


    Are they labelled as PC inputs?
    Reason I ask is that mostly (unless we are talking about surround sound etc) PC just use a single audio jack to output stereo.

    Could the connections you are looking at be Phono inputs/outputs for a different mode?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Yeah they're probably phono connections, try connected headphones to one of them. The 360 vga adapter comes with a phono adapter anyway, although my crappy Philips has the phono port squashed up on top of the dvi port so I couldn't use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    They are phono connections yeah. One is blue and one is green. I'm not at home at the moment so I cant tell you what exactly they're called, but I do remember something about PC audio being mentioned underneath them. So if I get a 360 vga cable I should be sorted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭Conar


    Sounds like component connectors to me, I've never seen green and blue connectors on a TV for anything else....see wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    No you're right they are component connectors, sorry about that I was getting a bit confused there for a min, I'm not great with the terminology on a lot of stuff! But they are definitely audio inputs


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    In that case they should be red and white and work fine without the need for an adapter. If they're loose you may just need to push them in harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭Conar


    The Red Green and Blue carry the video and the (second) red and white carry the audio AFAIK.
    I would check the manual and see where the PC audio input is.

    On my tv the component audio in is seperate to the PC audio in so may be the same with yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Moiph


    See therein lies the problem, there are no connections on my tv for the red, green and blue components. Or any components for that matter! Except for the 2 PC audio ones.

    I was just talking to my mate who works in xtravision, they sell the same model tvs and he told me I need the 360 VGA cable to have hd work on that tv so hopefully that will solve my problem! Cheers for all the help by the way lads


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