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N9 Carlow Bypass-when will it open?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    Drove the road last night excellent quality got to see parts of Carlow I haven’t seen in years! Road is 100Kmph until the reclassification of motorways comes into force, then it will be 120Kmph. Will be awhile yet. This was discussed in other forums also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭bottletops


    Took the car out on the bypass to stretch its legs yesterday. Those long clear stretches where you can see so far ahead are very tempting ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Munurty wrote: »
    Slightly o/t but amazing progress being made by Roadbridge-Sisk on the Knocktopher to Powerstown section. Danesfort and Bennettsbridge have seen loads of activity. The ground work and structures look like they are really flying.

    Knocktopher to Waterford is getting there too. Ascon are laying the CBM layer in places which is the one before the tarmacadam.

    The first coat of tarmacadam is down on the Waterford Bypass and they are pouring the concrete central barrier too.

    It seemed like it would take forever but we are getting there.

    took me 10 mins straight for the 18km (i.e a hair over 100kmph avg). reckon it saved me 5-10 min on a 1h 45min journey. small delay this evening in CDermot, but its a bank hol w/e, so to be expected.

    As for knocktopher/Bennetsbridge, I also saw the progress at the w/e. A sign says 'completion Spring 2009'. Certianly looks like progress being made. Huge bridge going up in BBridge over the KK road, river/valley and railway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭davidoco


    mfitzy wrote: »
    Very high standard and quality of road. It will be something else when it runs all the way from Kilcullen to Waterford. Asco have done a great job

    I found the southbound driving lane surface to be not a patch on something like the M1 heading north. There are drag marks and poor side by side layer connections for the first 10km. Not something that will be noticable now but in a couple of years time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    mobby wrote: »
    Used it today on the way to Wexford. can't say I made the journry any quicker as their was a 4km tailback into castledermot:( , Nice road and will be great when finished.

    It will be a relief to have Castledermot bypassed also. So many Friday evenings I sat looking out at the Alpine garage stuck in traffic trying to get through this town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭ShayK1


    It will be a relief to have Castledermot bypassed also. So many Friday evenings I sat looking out at the Alpine garage stuck in traffic trying to get through this town.

    There's plenty of ways to bypass castledermot, you just need to know which route to take to benefit you with regards to your destination.

    Example: Going to Tullow: Take the turn off for Baltinglass on the moone bypass and come into Tullow that way.

    Going to Carlow? Turn Right at the Moone High-Cross Inn and come into carlow the carlow-athy road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭mobby


    Coming back on Sunday evening around 6 bells traffic was backed up to the roundabout at the end of bye pass all the way into castledermot. Don’t know way castledermot was not part of the bye pass also, as it surly would not have taken much to include it in the original plans. And I see they have installed traffic lights in the main street which will add even more problems when turned on. Suppose we will just have to wait till Kilcullen end is finished.

    BTW Castledermot must be one of the most depressing towns in Ireland very run down looking. And they always seem to be digging up the main street.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    mobby wrote: »
    Coming back on Sunday evening around 6 bells traffic was backed up to the roundabout at the end of bye pass all the way into castledermot. Don’t know way castledermot was not part of the bye pass also, as it surly would not have taken much to include it in the original plans. And I see they have installed traffic lights in the main street which will add even more problems when turned on. Suppose we will just have to wait till Kilcullen end is finished.

    BTW Castledermot must be one of the most depressing towns in Ireland very run down looking. And they always seem to be digging up the main street.:mad:

    come off the bypass there and instead of heading towards castle d turn left towards carlow, then take your first right at the crossroad, follow that road to a T junction and turn right, continue straight up that to bring you into the exisiting lights in castle D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭muggyog


    They actually dug up the main street so Archeologists could have a look ( there is a flag stone culverted stream running down the middle). They filled it in again and dug it up later for the sewage ...... then the water ..... then the traffic lights ... then the drains ..... then the lorry drove into the house so they had to scrape the surface ....... then ......... it was bypassed (and the all lived happily ever after)!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    ShayK1 wrote: »

    Going to Carlow? Turn Right at the Moone High-Cross Inn and come into carlow the carlow-athy road.

    I seriously doubt that is quicker than sitting through traffice in Castledermot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    muggyog wrote: »
    it was bypassed (and the all lived happily ever after)!

    it's not bypassed yet


    I seriously doubt that is quicker than sitting through traffice in Castledermot?

    it is, only adds about 5 mins on to the normal journey regardless , you could be in traffic for a lot longer than that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭ShayK1


    I seriously doubt that is quicker than sitting through traffice in Castledermot?

    You'd be surprised...

    you can also take the 2nd left after the Apline filling station and if you know where you're going you'll come into carlow through Pal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Just seems a good way out of town.

    I know the way through Pal, what I used to do when commuting from Dublin was take the last left before Carlow and across Pal and Tinryland then into Leighlinbridge.

    Hows the road holding up in the torrential rain?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭ShayK1


    Just seems a good way out of town.

    By my calculations its an extra 4km

    the new N9 is on google maps now too btw :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    has it increased to 120kph now, i see the M signs are not rubbed out anymore?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Bards


    Can someone confirm that the 100 Km/H signs have been replaced with 120 Km/h


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    Drove the road again last night, remains 100Kmph. It wont change to 120 until the reclassification has gone through. Will be another while yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    and it definitely says M9 the feckers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭brettmirl


    Drove the new bypass yesterday. It has all the blue motorway signs, but is still 100kmph.


    Having said that, its a bit sneaky. There were only two 100kmph signs along the entire stretch of 'motorway' heading southbound...and the Gardai were speed-trapping.

    When I drove onto the road at first, I assumed it was 120kmph becuase of the M9 and blue motorway signs. I think other people would too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭aynon


    was talking to an engineer about the new bypass, its technically a national road still( so provies you can drive on it without getting caught out) the highest a national road can go is 100 km/ph. it is likely it will not change to a motorway status until it has bypassed, the beautiful bottle neck that is our favorite, castledermot.
    hope this helps all,
    btw, beautiful road, went out on it, 2 days after it opened.... first time i really got to open up my car in ages, did at cops break time so they wouldnt be out there...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    aynon wrote: »
    was talking to an engineer about the new bypass, its technically a national road still( so provies you can drive on it without getting caught out) the highest a national road can go is 100 km/ph. it is likely it will not change to a motorway status until it has bypassed, the beautiful bottle neck that is our favorite, castledermot.
    hope this helps all,
    btw, beautiful road, went out on it, 2 days after it opened.... first time i really got to open up my car in ages, did at cops break time so they wouldnt be out there...

    I agree with you. I dont think they will allow 120 even after the classification process goes through as its only 18Km of a road. I think once Kilcullen to Carlow and Carlow to Knocktopher are built then it will go 120. I just dont see the point, but they should really just take down the blue signs to avoid confusion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    fitzyshea wrote: »
    I agree with you. I dont think they will allow 120 even after the classification process goes through as its only 18Km of a road. I think once Kilcullen to Carlow and Carlow to Knocktopher are built then it will go 120. I just dont see the point, but they should really just take down the blue signs to avoid confusion.

    Don't be mad. The existing M9 is 4km long. The existing M11, before the M50 Southern Cross was built, was about 5km in total. Both of these roads had, and continue to have, 120kmph limits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭aynon


    well the blue sign on the kilkenny side is blacked out lat time i checked, but the new road is apparently is only a year from completetion for castle dermot, fairytales any one, so once that opens we be all flying to dublin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭sunny2004


    I have used it and its a great road. Where will it connect finally on the dublin side ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭ShayK1


    sunny2004 wrote: »
    I have used it and its a great road. Where will it connect finally on the dublin side ?

    It will join up with the existing M9 at kilcullen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭inarut


    Around 2 years from now. 2010. Good progress being made already though..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    i must say coming from the KK direction and using the bypass and taking the first exit of it is very handy when going to the top end of town askea etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Ive seen the Guards twice in the last week on the old Kilkenny road before the dump. As I dont use the bypass to get to work, its actually slowing me down now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Has anyone measured the distance from roundabout to roundabout going through Carlow to compare it to the same on the bypass.
    I've been on the bypass a few time now and it seems really long!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    dougal wrote: »
    Has anyone measured the distance from roundabout to roundabout going through Carlow to compare it to the same on the bypass.
    I've been on the bypass a few time now and it seems really long!

    Of course the bypass is longer in distance. The old road was in essence a straight line, the bypass is a semi-circle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    whats the story with the works after the roundabouts castledermot side towards carlow, are the widening the road there, making a footpath or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    patrickc wrote: »
    whats the story with the works after the roundabouts castledermot side towards carlow, are the widening the road there, making a footpath or what?

    Wideing the road as its too narrow and footpath i think as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Where will the castledermot by-pass join back to the current road at the Dublin side? Is is at the Priory pub (I notice there are road-works there at the moment), or what is the expected open date on that part? Looks a good year away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Bards


    sk8board wrote: »
    Where will the castledermot by-pass join back to the current road at the Dublin side? Is is at the Priory pub (I notice there are road-works there at the moment), or what is the expected open date on that part? Looks a good year away


    http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/KildareCountyCouncil/N9N10KilcullentoCarlow/Map,15103,en.pdf

    due to finish Q3/Q4 2010


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭lucylu


    I heard that there contractor was making excellent progress and didn't hit much rock or hardship and that he has to lay off hundreds of workers for a few weeks as there is no money left in the honey jar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭aynon


    ah lols, the for sight of our councils....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Truck over turned at the dump roundabout this morning. Kinda weird driving by and looking at the under carraig of a truck, cant believe thats what we look like inside!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭aynon


    scarred much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    aynon wrote: »
    scarred much?

    Yes, yes I was


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Will the Carlow to Castledermot section open earlier than the Q3/Q4 '10 completion date, just like the Carlow by-pass section? Looks like good progress being made


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Thats what the contract says but I'd say Spring 12 months and it should be open, fingers crossed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭jiggajt


    I wouldnt hold your breath. there has been very little done on it in the last month and from what i see alot of the bridge and culvert structures havent even been started yet. My guess is Q3 2010.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    The only reason they are not working on it is builders hols! The full route (Kilcullen - Waterford) is due to open in Q4 2010 if not sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭sk8board


    fitzyshea wrote: »
    The full route (Kilcullen - Waterford) is due to open in Q4 2010 if not sooner.

    but the carlow - kilcullen/Priory section is due to open BEFORE that date correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭dirtybarry


    as far as i remember they started work on the kilcullen to carlow section around february 2008,i hadn't been in the area until last week when i deceided to drive the route to see how it is progressing..i have to say i was mightily impressed with the progress that has been made in this time.i would say they will be well ahead of schedule on this project


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kwalshe


    I dunno lads I think they are booting along with this. Was chatting to one of the contractors and he reckons about 3 months ahead at the mo for the Powerstown to Kilcullen section. Just think how much easier life will be for the commuters travelling 120KPH from Carlow to Naas... can't wait.......cant wait..... job + life = much easier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭jiggajt


    I have to say as a regular Dublin commuter (at least twice a week) it will be great. It already is alot better than it used to be with the M7 and M50 now pretty much finished. 3 months ahead sounds about right but just remember how long it took for the carlow bypass to open after they handed it over to the council!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    it will be great I can't wait. sure how long is the new link road sitting finished but not open in Carlow, the one that comes out on the Hacketstown road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    patrickc wrote: »
    it will be great I can't wait. sure how long is the new link road sitting finished but not open in Carlow, the one that comes out on the Hacketstown road

    Not quite finished I thinks. It hasn't joined up with the ex-N9 yet and the Pal road is still closed between GreenAcres and town. I thought there were some outstanding issues which are preventing completion.

    Re the M9 it looks like they'll be ahead of schedule alright. They seem to have most (not all) of the bridges up along the back roads and they've started excavations for the joinup at Kilcullen. But before they join up they have to divert the N9 to the Athy-Kilcullen road west of the current slip road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭sk8board


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Not quite finished I thinks. It hasn't joined up with the ex-N9 yet and the Pal road is still closed between GreenAcres and town. I thought there were some outstanding issues which are preventing completion.

    isn't that the link road that came up 50 yards short as they didn't realise they didn't CPO the last field? :)


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