Mass or Electric picnic

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

Zillah wrote:

No, you only responded to half my post. And it was such a simple post too. I'll ask again to make it simple:

In your opinion, are there any circumstances where someone could get mildly-to-very drunk without it counting as a crutch?

I did respond to it. And it was such a simple answer. I'll answer it again to make it simple. If one is getting mildy-to-very drunk purely to get mildly-to-very drunk and not because they can't do something else without getting mild-to-very drunk well then it is not crutch.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

JC 2K3 wrote:

What would you say to the idea that everything has multiple naturalistic essenses depending on the state of mind/consciousness of the observer?

Is a driver better able to drive with or without drink? Is the observer better able to observe with or with drink?

aidan24326

Electric Picnic

Having just looked at the lineup for EP, I'm off to mass. 220 euro for that? Ouch.

And Tim you're opinion that 2+ drinks is a binge is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since, umm, the last time somebody suggested that.

Scofflaw

aidan24326 wrote:

Having just looked at the lineup for EP, I'm off to mass. 220 euro for that? Ouch.

And Tim you're opinion that 2+ drinks is a binge is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since, umm, the last time somebody suggested that.

Yeah, they were probably drunk, though.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Zillah

Tim Robbins wrote:

I did respond to it. And it was such a simple answer. I'll answer it again to make it simple. If one is getting mildy-to-very drunk purely to get mildly-to-very drunk and not because they can't do something else without getting mild-to-very drunk well then it is not crutch.

Ah, ok. So you'll agree that this statement from your original post was very badly phrased?

Tim Robbins wrote:

Drink is just another crutch, just like religion. Both help people deal with insecurities.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

aidan24326 wrote:

Having just looked at the lineup for EP, I'm off to mass. 220 euro for that? Ouch.

And Tim you're opinion that 2+ drinks is a binge is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since, umm, the last time somebody suggested that.

Aido, I was referring to my own limits with 2+, if you read the post. But many people would agree with this and would never drive if they had 2+ because their cognitive abilities have deteriorated.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

Zillah wrote:

Ah, ok. So you'll agree that this statement from your original post was very badly phrased?

No.

Zillah

You'd make a fantastic Creationist Tim.

JC 2K3

Tim Robbins wrote:

Is a driver better able to drive with or without drink?

Relevance?

Tim Robbins wrote:

Is the observer better able to observe with or with drink?

That depends on what they want to observe and how they want to observe it.

By your logic, we're all not experiencing reality properly since we're not all on Nootropics.

the_syco

I'd goto the electric picnic, as it's the lesser of the two evils.

Oh, and Tim, most people I know don't drink and drive. Any waster that thinks that they can drive with two points is a danger to other people. I know of one person, who after one pint, is almost legless. They can't handle their pints, and they know it. You, though, think that you can drive OK with two pints.

For the record, I went to neither. Both mass and the electric picnic do sh|te music.

Finally, the electric picnic doesn't sell cider. Like mass. So both get the thumbs down.

Dades

I decided not to drink tonight - and now I can't sleep.

Damn you Tim for taking my sleep crutch!

aidan24326

Electric Picnic

Tim Robbins wrote:

Aido, I was referring to my own limits with 2+, if you read the post. But many people would agree with this and would never drive if they had 2+ because their cognitive abilities have deteriorated.

That's ok you obviously have low enough capacity for alcohol yourself. No problem there. I wouldn't consider 5 or 6 beers to be a binge by any means, but each to their own I guess.

I still can't figure out why you'd want to go to Electric Picnic though. You seem to be going there with the intent of stirring up a debate about the parallels between drinking and religion?! Tim, even by your standards of oddness this is a new one.

JC 2K3

The fúckin' Stooges are playing - 'nuff said.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

the_syco wrote:

I'd goto the electric picnic, as it's the lesser of the two evils.

Oh, and Tim, most people I know don't drink and drive. Any waster that thinks that they can drive with two points is a danger to other people. I know of one person, who after one pint, is almost legless. They can't handle their pints, and they know it. You, though, think that you can drive OK with two pints.

For the record, I went to neither. Both mass and the electric picnic do sh|te music.

Finally, the electric picnic doesn't sell cider. Like mass. So both get the thumbs down.

Incorrect. I wouldn't driver after a mouthful of beer actually.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

aidan24326 wrote:

That's ok you obviously have low enough capacity for alcohol yourself. No problem there. I wouldn't consider 5 or 6 beers to be a binge by any means, but each to their own I guess.

I still can't figure out why you'd want to go to Electric Picnic though. You seem to be going there with the intent of stirring up a debate about the parallels between drinking and religion?! Tim, even by your standards of oddness this is a new one.

Just back from Electric Picnic. It was absolute class, much better than I expected. There was a huge range of mental stimulus so I didn't need to stir up any sort of Theological debate. We had one brief debate concerning whether parents should be bringing thier young kids to a festival that was really intended for adults. Other than that it was all music, art and good fun. Great Weekend.

JC 2K3

So, what was your point again?

Zillah

Sun Tzu say - Make point like water and you can never be defeated.

Scofflaw

Zillah wrote:

Sun Tzu say - Make point like water and you can never be defeated.

And he too was an atheist. Apparently.

cordially,
Scofflaw

PDN

JC 2K3 wrote:

The fúckin' Stooges are playing - 'nuff said.

You mean like the original Stooges? With Iggy Pop?

I take back all I said. Iggy's got to be better than mass any day!

Dades

Tim Robbins wrote:

We had one brief debate concerning whether parents should be bringing thier young kids to a festival that was really intended for adults.

Actually I heard the promoter interviewed as saying the festival was deliberately marketed at everyone - including families. They wanted it to develop like Glastonbury seems to have done.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

The Atheist wrote:

Actually I heard the promoter interviewed as saying the festival was deliberately marketed at everyone - including families. They wanted it to develop like Glastonbury seems to have done.

It was marketed so nackers wouldn't go. The only other time I have been surrounded by such a statistically low amount of nackers is at a rugby match.

JC 2K3

PDN wrote:

You mean like the original Stooges? With Iggy Pop?

I take back all I said. Iggy's got to be better than mass any day!

Hehe, well there's one thing we can agree on.

lookinforpicnic

Mass or electric picnic?

Definitely electric picnic, what a laugh, for me its a great chance to meet up with my friends that are scattered around the country, wasn't as good as last year but there was a couple of good gigs in there, particularly the not well known ones, and Erasure.. brillant. Yeah lots of drink and bits and pieces of drugs, not to avoid reality, reality is just fine the way it is, but because I like that kind of stuff with friends. 220 euro didn't bother me, at least it keeps the crowd someway decent.

Tim Robbins

Electric Picnic

lookinforpicnic wrote:

Mass or electric picnic?

Definitely electric picnic, what a laugh, for me its a great chance to meet up with my friends that are scattered around the country, wasn't as good as last year but there was a couple of good gigs in there, particularly the not well known ones, and Erasure.. brillant. Yeah lots of drink and bits and pieces of drugs, not to avoid reality, reality is just fine the way it is, but because I like that kind of stuff with friends. 220 euro didn't bother me, at least it keeps the crowd someway decent.

Erasure were class. Did you check out the BodyTonic tent?

Tar.Aldarion

Neither thanks.
If I had to go to one, it definitely wouldn't be mass, unless that hot girl that used to sit in front of me was there.

lookinforpicnic

Tim Robbins wrote:

Erasure were class. Did you check out the BodyTonic tent?

Yeah i checked it out, didn't spend much time there though, the djs i saw weren't great