FE1 Exam Thread (Mod Warning: NO ADS)

Call Me Ishmael

Found the sample answers - tks a mill all

law_lady

brian__foley wrote: »

It's not really the kind of area that (in my opinion) (a) needs a lot of cases to understand or (b) has really required a lot of case discussion on the exam. Unilateral has tended to focus in a greater degree. Indeed, there is an argument that "mutual" mistake really isn't anything other than a particular way of saying that offer and acceptance have not co-incided. I would think that if you understand what it is about, then knowing about Raffles and Mespill is enough to give advises on any particular mutual mistake scenario and maybe Webster v Cecil to illustrate how the presence of knowledge of mistake brings it out of "mutual" into "unilateral" etc. One may not have enough to do a discursive essay on the point, but to simply understand it and apply it in a problem question context, I wouldn't really see a need for lots of cases to illustrate a very basic point.

The concentration will come back!

I'm too new to boards to be allowed to thank posts but thank you Brian! I did feel that I could cut out a lot of cases and still be able to adequately advise on that area, so its good to be reassured that I'm not just being lazy by cutting it down! And may I just say, having read back over this thread and having spoken to friends who did your prep course, you seem to go above and beyond to help people preparing for these exams, so thanks so much. All the best!

lil ms sunshine

Hi all,

I don't have the Griffith etc. manuals for Equity, but I do have access to legal journals.

Has anyone come across any useful articles etc. on Charitable Trusts since the introduction of the 2009 Act, on its impact on this area.

Thanks in advance for any help :cool:

jacko1

Ruby83 wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can buy Blackstones EU treaties and legislation 2009-2010? I'm in Cork and have gone to all the bookshops who don't seem to have it stocked anywhere. Also tried amazon and none of them deliver to Ireland which is very annoying!!!!

the 2010/11 edition should be out any day and will be in the UCC book shop

Christor

Hi all, I'm looking to revamp my CV in order to have a go at securing a traineeship for Sept (virtually impossible I know) and I was hoping someone out there would have a contact who specialises in this area of CV prep? I have a number of years of legal exec experience and I'm hoping that will help. Thanks a mill!

Arsenal1986

Christor wrote: »

Hi all, I'm looking to revamp my CV in order to have a go at securing a traineeship for Sept (virtually impossible I know) and I was hoping someone out there would have a contact who specialises in this area of CV prep? I have a number of years of legal exec experience and I'm hoping that will help. Thanks a mill!

I know a great guy for this, I sent you a PM with his details.

Hogzy

Jesus i really wish a moderator would come in here and clean the GCD Manual ads away. Its a joke at this stage.

Jev/N

Hogzy wrote: »

Jesus i really wish a moderator would come in here and clean the GCD Manual ads away. Its a joke at this stage.

Especially since the above poster has a crazy idea of how much they can get for each one :eek:

sin0city

Arsenal1986 wrote: »

I know a great guy for this, I sent you a PM with his details.

Any chance you could send me the details too?

By the way, anyone got a 2009 McCann and Courtney Comopanies Acts for sale?

Miss Fluff

sin0city wrote: »

By the way, anyone got a 2009 McCann and Courtney Comopanies Acts for sale?

There's a thread specifically for the buying and selling of manuals/books etc here...


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055100192

sin0city

Okay, thanks.

cagney88

In one of my fe 1 classes, the lecturer said the following, in reference to making suggestions about what topics we'd like covered and generally speaking up;

''When its on your mind say it, be German about it..... and not Irish about it, which is; not say it, get annoyed, go down the pub, get drunk, bitch to your frineds about it and never let me know what it is that made you annoyed about it in the 1st place.''

Genius!

Jev/N

cagney88 wrote: »

In one of my fe 1 classes, the lecturer said the following, in reference to making suggestions about what topics we'd like covered and generally speaking up;

''When its on your mind say it, be German about it..... and not Irish about it, which is; not say it, get annoyed, go down the pub, get drunk, bitch to your frineds about it and never let me know what it is that made you annoyed about it in the 1st place.''

Genius!

Haha, I was in that lecture :pac:

Thirdfox

fellow eu colleagues

Chuckler

OK, so have the Study Timetable planned out in Google Calendar. Have a good set of notes in front of me. Have started the past exam questions and am allocating a reasonable amount of time (3 hours per subject). Having failed these exams previously I need to know where I'm going wrong. What are the ABC's to studying for the FE-1's? BTW - I'm working in a 9 - 5 job at the same time. So have allocated a 5:00 a.m. start (i.e. 3 hours before work and 3 hours after work). Help, tips, etc. will be most appreciated especially with Tort, Consitutional, Contract, Equity (passed already) and Property. Obviously, I will reciprocate any help back!

Ruby83

Chuckler wrote: »

OK, so have the Study Timetable planned out in Google Calendar. Have a good set of notes in front of me. Have started the past exam questions and am allocating a reasonable amount of time (3 hours per subject). Having failed these exams previously I need to know where I'm going wrong. What are the ABC's to studying for the FE-1's? BTW - I'm working in a 9 - 5 job at the same time. So have allocated a 5:00 a.m. start (i.e. 3 hours before work and 3 hours after work). Help, tips, etc. will be most appreciated especially with Tort, Consitutional, Contract, Equity (passed already) and Property. Obviously, I will reciprocate any help back!

Hi Chuckler,
I passed Contract, Criminal and Tort last time around and this is what I did while working 9-6 Mon to Fri:
Study Mon - Fri 6:30 - 10 in the evening, Sat and Sun 9-6.
I learned the Griffith manuals back to front and practiced the exam questions for each chapter (i.e. learned the chapter, then closed the book and made sure I knew the topic really well).
I left out no chapter so I could answer nearly all questions on the papers (ok in contract I left out sale of goods because I hated it).
I think the key though is actually reading the questions properly. They usually have a slant (particularly the essay questions) and it's so easy to just write all you know about the topic without referring to the question. Make sure you reference the question and give your viewpoint on the slant. The examiner may have another opinion but at least you will have answered his/her question.
Finally, I think it's important to take the two weeks off work when the exams are on. The couple of days leading up to them are the most important for cramming.
The above is what I did and all seems pretty obvious and I'm sure you know it all but it's a hard slog so sharing study methods may at least help somewhat. Hopefully I will be able to follow my own advice for the next lot!!

Arsenal1986

I have to say hats off to ye studying so hard while working, its seriously impressive! I did them full time so have serious respect for ppl doing them while working.

shaneybaby

Chuckler wrote: »

OK, so have the Study Timetable planned out in Google Calendar. Have a good set of notes in front of me. Have started the past exam questions and am allocating a reasonable amount of time (3 hours per subject). Having failed these exams previously I need to know where I'm going wrong. What are the ABC's to studying for the FE-1's? BTW - I'm working in a 9 - 5 job at the same time. So have allocated a 5:00 a.m. start (i.e. 3 hours before work and 3 hours after work). Help, tips, etc. will be most appreciated especially with Tort, Consitutional, Contract, Equity (passed already) and Property. Obviously, I will reciprocate any help back!

No offence but a 5am start for 3 hours straight study is a bit nuts. I used to do get the 6.30 train into work and study for the hour or so before i started but it took me a while to learn that short bursts of learning at that time were much more benefical that trawling over pages and pages of law text mindlessly because you're still half asleep.

If you have an hour lunch break take 40 minutes of it twice/three times a week to read through whatever books you have. that's two hours a week and with >10 weeks to go (i dunno when they are on this year) that's like 20 hours decent study relatively easy. Working and studying is no joke but don't turn into a pshyco study machine (guilty myself). If you can do the 5am thing everyday fair play but it's the quality of study not the the amount that's the more important. Working and passing them all isn't impossible it just needs a bit more thought about the minutes you can afford to spend at things.

There was a decent conversation a while back on study methods, i could only find my post but it goes on over the next few pages.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62465709&postcount=1645

edit: i've no idea why it's showing only one post, colnel1 had some excellent tips.

Chuckler

Ruby83 wrote: »

Hi Chuckler,
I passed Contract, Criminal and Tort last time around and this is what I did while working 9-6 Mon to Fri:
Study Mon - Fri 6:30 - 10 in the evening, Sat and Sun 9-6.
I learned the Griffith manuals back to front and practiced the exam questions for each chapter (i.e. learned the chapter, then closed the book and made sure I knew the topic really well).
I left out no chapter so I could answer nearly all questions on the papers (ok in contract I left out sale of goods because I hated it).
I think the key though is actually reading the questions properly. They usually have a slant (particularly the essay questions) and it's so easy to just write all you know about the topic without referring to the question. Make sure you reference the question and give your viewpoint on the slant. The examiner may have another opinion but at least you will have answered his/her question.
Finally, I think it's important to take the two weeks off work when the exams are on. The couple of days leading up to them are the most important for cramming.
The above is what I did and all seems pretty obvious and I'm sure you know it all but it's a hard slog so sharing study methods may at least help somewhat. Hopefully I will be able to follow my own advice for the next lot!!

Hi Ruby,

Thanks for the support - its kinda what I need. I think the biggest obstacle I face each morning / evening (I'm trying to keep the weekends free due to a rearing a young family also) is concentration and the fact that I find myself getting bogged down in a certain issue such as The egg shell / skull rule in the Standard of Care in Negligence. Then thinking back to the Duty of Care, the cases just vanish....Its the memory I think that is the worst part - rant over here. Once again, I greatly appreciate your advice.

Chuckler

shaneybaby wrote: »

No offence but a 5am start for 3 hours straight study is a bit nuts. I used to do get the 6.30 train into work and study for the hour or so before i started but it took me a while to learn that short bursts of learning at that time were much more benefical that trawling over pages and pages of law text mindlessly because you're still half asleep.

If you have an hour lunch break take 40 minutes of it twice/three times a week to read through whatever books you have. that's two hours a week and with >10 weeks to go (i dunno when they are on this year) that's like 20 hours decent study relatively easy. Working and studying is no joke but don't turn into a pshyco study machine (guilty myself). If you can do the 5am thing everyday fair play but it's the quality of study not the the amount that's the more important. Working and passing them all isn't impossible it just needs a bit more thought about the minutes you can afford to spend at things.

There was a decent conversation a while back on study methods, i could only find my post but it goes on over the next few pages.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62465709&postcount=1645

edit: i've no idea why it's showing only one post, colnel1 had some excellent tips.

Hi Shanebaby,

Thanks a mill for the advice. Both yours and Ruby's are invaluable. I agree with you that the 5:00 a.m. start before work is probably not a bad idea. Juggling work, family and the FE-1's is a bloody marathon but then again I'm like the old Lada's or FIAT 128's - impossible to start but once they do, they keep going. I'm also trying the mind mapping technique to keep all those cases stored. For anyone reading this discussion this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeplane provides some excellent mind mapping software.

lucilou

Hi Guys,

Have an interview coming up for the access programme...does anyone know what the process is in these interviews...kinda nervous....any advice would be great...

Amre17

Hi all,

I was wondering could anyone tell me if there is any difference between the 2008 and 2009 edition of the student version of the companies acts? Is it worth getting the newer edition over the older one?

Thanks in advance..

tombren

Hi all,

I am doing the property exam in October and im panicing a bit about it! I have a 2009/2010 manual which makes reference to the Act which at the time wasnt in place. I was wondering can anyone advise as to how big of an effect the 2009 Act has had on the course. Also i know there is another thread for notes but if anyway has notes on what exactly is needed for exam as per 2009 Act i would be willing to buy them.

Thanks in advance.

page1

Chuckler wrote: »

OK, so have the Study Timetable planned out in Google Calendar. Have a good set of notes in front of me. Have started the past exam questions and am allocating a reasonable amount of time (3 hours per subject). Having failed these exams previously I need to know where I'm going wrong. What are the ABC's to studying for the FE-1's? BTW - I'm working in a 9 - 5 job at the same time. So have allocated a 5:00 a.m. start (i.e. 3 hours before work and 3 hours after work). Help, tips, etc. will be most appreciated especially with Tort, Consitutional, Contract, Equity (passed already) and Property. Obviously, I will reciprocate any help back!

Hi chuckler, im not working but im at home with my 2 kids a 2.5 yr old and 8 month old baby so i understand how restricted studying time is.
Im up with them from 7am to 7pm ( and a couple of times at night with the baby !!). I study for an hour at lunch when they have a nap, in the evenings after i put them to bed and make the dinner i try and do a couple of hours. I study most of Saturday and a couple of hours sunday morning in the weeks leading up to the exams.

I think trying to do a few hours before and after work and every lunchtime will burn you out and make you dread studying. I think its more about quality than quantity and if you are half asleep in the mornings you are not going to take anything in.
I study best on the Sat, i take myself off to the library so i dont end up feeding the kids or trying to block out the noise.
I would definitely recommend taking one day off a week, mid week maybe so not study all day to give yourself a break. I also try to keep the studying to a mim on a Sunday and keep it as a family day, i will study from 7am-10 but the last few Sundays before the exams i will study all day.

Re the timetable, if you have all your notes then divide the subjects by days left - i take away one week for emergencies, like getting sick, kids getting sick etc so it isnt eating into your allocated time. Therefore you have about 13 weeks for 5 subjects, divide that down into the topics to get amount of time per topic - then panic when you realise how little time you have !!
I study by writing out a comprehensive set of notes and make sure im 100% happy they have covered everything. I then rewrite them smaller and smaller each time so i end up with about 1-2 pages per topic in shorthand. I usually just keep the first and last set and discard all the other ones. I also write out seperately each topic and the cases for them.

I think you are taking on a couple of difficult subjects to start with the areas are huge. Did you sit all 5 the last time? was that your first sitting? Did you fail by much, do you have any idea of the areas you fell down in?

Mar_10

Hey, was just wondering if anyone has done the FE1 direct seminars and if so, would you recmmend doing them?

Amigone

hey all,

I have EU and Const manuals from April '09 sitting to sell. While the EU is pre-Lisbon I have all the supplementary Lisbon changes papers from the GCD EU course. Have the past papers for both EU and Const too. Will sell for reasonable price.

PM me.

ilovelamp2000

Mar_10 wrote: »

Hey, was just wondering if anyone has done the FE1 direct seminars and if so, would you recmmend doing them?

Are they even running anymore ?

I rang to find out about them a couple of times, as well as emailed them, and heard nothing back whatsoever.

Arsenal1986

Amigone wrote: »

hey all,

I have EU and Const manuals from April '09 sitting to sell. While the EU is pre-Lisbon I have all the supplementary Lisbon changes papers from the GCD EU course. Have the past papers for both EU and Const too. Will sell for reasonable price.

PM me.

Theres a specific thread for this, ppl really need to stop posting books for sale here.

brian__foley

Arsenal1986 wrote: »

Theres a specific thread for this, ppl really need to stop posting books for sale here.

I'm sad to make this point here again, as I don't like having to do it but it is becoming impossible to ignore the gross misuse of materials that are prepared and (in some cases) specifically licensed to a particular student. I, of course, have a financial interest (in the sense that GCD does) in making this point in the sense that everything costs money and continually trying to improve services is impossible if the bottom line is being drained by piracy etc.

However, it is equally out of respect for existing (or past) students who have saw fit to pay for a particular set of materials etc that I write this.

There have been a few posts advertising the sale of COPIES of manuals. In that regard, the terms of relevant copyright legislation would be an interesting read. Selling manuals (insofar as they have not historically being licensed is entirely different), but making and selling COPIES is something that can no longer (sadly) be ignored and unfortunately any action GCD can take will be taken. Action has been taken in the past, both recent and far-flung.

Equally, some may know that some (but not all) GCD materials are provided in an online and individually licensed manner with specific identification marks imprinted thereon. So, downloading a particular file would have the name of the licenee imprinted thereon. Equally, the online lectures display the name of the person to whom the password was issued etc. Those materials are licensed and distribution is something that will attract the same kind of action as outlined above.

I really, really, don't like saying all this and it certainly sounds "sour", but aside from the wrong-thread issue, this, I suppose, ought be taken as notice that these things can be investigated (and have been - successfully) and anything that can be done, may be done. It just might be an idea to look at the terms upon which material was given to you before making decisions about re-sale or distribution. For the most part, I've found that people simply didn't appreciate or realise particular issues and mistakes are mistakes and everyone appreciates that.

Again, sorry for this, but since I am "on here" and do post and help when I can, I just can't leave things like that hanging without some response as I would be perceived as turning a blind eye, which is not the case at all.

Regards

Brian

GCD

brian__foley

page1 wrote: »

I study by writing out a comprehensive set of notes and make sure im 100% happy they have covered everything. I then rewrite them smaller and smaller each time so i end up with about 1-2 pages per topic in shorthand. I usually just keep the first and last set and discard all the other ones. I also write out seperately each topic and the cases for them.

V.good methodolgy that; can be very effective.