Who builds the best car..

RobAMerc

As a bit of Friday afternoon fun if you were getting a new car built from scratch what countries would you have do what?

I will start.

Styling : Italians
Handling: French
Ride: French
Interior : Germans
Build it : Japanese
Engine : Italians / Japanese / maybe Germans ( tough one )

Can't think of anything else at the moment but feel free to add if necessary.

peasant

Brands instead of countries

Styling : Alfa
Handling: Lotus
Ride: Citroen
Interior : Bugatti
Build it : Lexus
Engine : Porsche

Henry Ford III

Lexus build good cars. Well engineered, and well screwed together.

Doesn't mean they are the best cars mind you.

what_car

RobAMerc wrote:

As a bit of Friday afternoon fun if you were getting a new car built from scratch what countries would you have do what?

I will start.

Styling : Italians
Handling: French
Ride: French
Interior : Germans
Build it : Japanese
Engine : Italians / Japanese / maybe Germans ( tough one )

Can't think of anything else at the moment but feel free to add if necessary.

build quality : Japanese.
Engines: Japanese.
Reliability: Japanese.

R.O.R

Styling : Aston Martin
Handling: Lotus
Ride: Mercedes
Interior : Rolls Royce
Build it : Toyota
Engine : Honda VTEC

CarLover

RobAMerc wrote:

As a bit of Friday afternoon fun if you were getting a new car built from scratch what countries would you have do what?

I will start.

Styling : Italians
Handling: French
Ride: French
Interior : Germans
Build it : Japanese
Engine : Italians / Japanese / maybe Germans ( tough one )

Can't think of anything else at the moment but feel free to add if necessary.

What French car handles well?

colm_mcm

Silicone damped grab holders : Germans

corglass

Build: Toyota
Quality: Lexus/Toyota
Engine: Toyota

Plug

The germans are the best at everything.

colm_mcm

Plug wrote:

The germans are the best at everything.

yeah, just look at the E Class :rolleyes:

Jumpy

After having a Mazda 323 and and 2 FTO's I will always stick with Japanese cars now. So reliable.
Ok FTO parts are a leeetle bit expensive. But hell yes.. Japanese all the way.

prospect

Exterior Styling: Lamborghini
Interior Styling: Alfa Romeo
Handling: Lotus
Assembly: Toyota/Lexus
Engine: Petrol - Ferrari Diesel - Fiat
After Sales - Skoda
Warranty - Kia

prospect

Jumpy wrote:

After having a Mazda 323 and and 2 FTO's I will always stick with Japanese cars now. So reliable.
Ok FTO parts are a leeetle bit expensive. But hell yes.. Japanese all the way.

Well, If Reliability is your main concern, you are dead right.

Plug

colm_mcm wrote:

yeah, just look at the E Class :rolleyes:

now now....
Thats the exception.

Henry Ford III

RobAMerc wrote:

...Handling: French.

I assume that was in jest?

p.s. Come to think of it they made some very fine handling cars - 205 GTI springs to mind. Push one of those too far however and you'll end up in a tree.

RobAMerc

Henry Ford III wrote:

I assume that was in jest?

Nope, there was a time when if you wanted a fine handling hot hatch it had to be French - 205,106,309 gti's, Clio 16v, R5 etc outhandled their perspective
German or Italian rivals, and the Japs came no where close.

Currently the Clio 197 and Megane R26 are widely regarded as among then best handling hot hatches about.

I get to run about in a 1.0 1994 106 XN some times and I am always amazed how a car with such a good ride is able to thrill through the bends. ( Bet it could keep up with a Glanza easy through the twisties )

Oh an and before anyone else slags off the French - where is it again the Veyron is built ??

Henry Ford III wrote:

Push one of those too far however and you'll end up in a tree.

Don't they all ?


Jumpy - so thats it ??, all Japanese because you've owned two Japanese cars and none broke down ?
how does that effect the style or handling ?

maidhc

Did anyone ever see the Datsun Cherry with Alfa running gear? It did exist, but surely the worst of both worlds!

RobAMerc

maidhc wrote:

Did anyone ever see the Datsun Cherry with Alfa running gear? It did exist, but surely the worst of both worlds!

it was the Alfa Romeo Arna -
Talk about getting stuff the wrong way round !
Be like asking Jordan to make your dinner while you take the Mary Harney up stairs for a bit of fun !

bazz26

maidhc wrote:

Did anyone ever see the Datsun Cherry with Alfa running gear? It did exist, but surely the worst of both worlds!

Indeed, instead of merging obvious Italian styling & driving characteristics with Japanese reliability & build quality they did it the other way round. Total disaster! :eek:

prospect

maidhc wrote:

Did anyone ever see the Datsun Cherry with Alfa running gear? It did exist, but surely the worst of both worlds!

LOL, yeah designed by the Japs and built by the Italians during the 'Recycling old Tank metal' era...

I am sure the Italian workers were horrified and insulted they were asked to perform such a task.

bazz26

Here it is:

Jumpy

RobAMerc wrote:

Jumpy - so thats it ??, all Japanese because you've owned two Japanese cars and none broke down ?
how does that effect the style or handling ?

The Mazda 323 94' was a pig to drive. It was like driving a marshmallow.
The FTO is a sweeeeet handler.

TomMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTx3vDwheoM

Fast forward to 2.00 mins

nastysimon

Styling : Italians seem to be the best
Handling: English (Caterham, Lotus, Ariel, Ultima) otherwise Porsche
Ride: French
Interior : Germans (though a little bland)
Build it : Japanese
Engine : BMW (I don't like BMW, but they make the best engines, Honda are close)

Package: Porshe, good at everything, poor at nothing

rowanh

Well looking at the fun to cost ratio which i think is the most important thing in a car the japanese would win hands down.

Guy:Incognito

Henry Ford III wrote:

p.s. Come to think of it they made some very fine handling cars - 205 GTI springs to mind. Push one of those too far however and you'll end up in a tree.

Push any car too far any you'll end up in something. By definition, "too much" means youve lost it.

I think it a bit pointless using prestige brands, even Lotus arnt really mass produced. But the Veyron especially seeing as only a handfull are made ( i assume handbuilt. And the cost :eek: ) so bits shouldnt really be fallign off.

philstar

now don't slag me off, but i think when it comes to everyday production cars......the french (esp citroen + peugeot) make the best.

Ok maybe not as reliable as the japs..but great "driver" cars, stylish inside and out and a joy to drive.. in my experience anyway:)

stratos

Handling, pre96 Jaguar.
looks, pre 96 Jaguar.
Comfort, pre 96 Jaguar.


OH $$*&)(*^^%% nothing beats any pre 96 Jaguar. for under 4 grand

maidhc

stratos wrote:

Handling, pre96 Jaguar.
looks, pre 96 Jaguar.
Comfort, pre 96 Jaguar.


OH $$*&)(*^^%% nothing beats any pre 96 Jaguar. for under 4 grand

I suppose i'd take a pre 96 jag alright if someone gave me 4k!

Bluefoam

stratos wrote:

Handling, pre96 Jaguar.
looks, pre 96 Jaguar.
Comfort, pre 96 Jaguar.


OH $$*&)(*^^%% nothing beats any pre 96 Jaguar. for under 4 grand

Don't tell me... ... you have a pre '96 Jag...

hardox

whats your car?


AUDI- Another Ugly Deutsche Invention
BMW- Brutal Money Waster
BUICK- Big Ugly Import Car Killer
CHEVROLET- Cracked Head, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks Every Time
CITROEN- Crap Interior Terrible Road-holding Owned Entirely by Nutters
DODGE- Darn Old Dirty Gas Eater
FIAT- Failed Italian Automotive Technology
FORD- Fast Only Rolling Downhill
FORD- Fix or Repair Daily
HONDA- Had One, Never Did Again
HYUNDAI- Hope You Understand Nothing`s Driveable And Inexpensive
JAGUAR- Jews And Germans Usually Argue Retail
LOTUS- Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious
MAZDA- Most Always Zipping Dangerously Along
NISSAN- Nasty Import Sucks Savings Away to Nippon
PORSCHE- Proof Of Rich Spoiled Children Having Everything
RENAULT- Retarded Engine No Acceleration Ugly Lump of Trash
SAAB- Swedish Automobiles Always Broken
TOYOTA- Too Often Yankees Overprice This Auto
VOLVO- Very Old Looking Vehicular Object
VW- Virtually Worthless

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