Which "supercar" does slow the best?

peasant · 04-09-2007 9:48am #1

Following on from Veyron ...not suitable for Irish roads, etc?

Which out and out sports car actually would be?

I (obviously:D ) have no experience ...but which supercar could actually "drive" in the queue for the toll bridge, in stop and go through town or down a narrow, potholed, loose chippinged, typical Irish country road in such a way that you would actually find it enjoyable?

911's and M3's would be quite able to hack it as a daily driver ...but they're not really "supercars".

I intend to win the lotto tommorow ...recommend me a supercar for Irish roads !

maidhc · 04-09-2007 10:00am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_LM002

Henry Ford III · 04-09-2007 10:22am

911 is very much a supercar I'd have said.

It's not a "hypercar" however (Top Gear term).

tdc · 04-09-2007 10:24am

ferrari f430/porsche 911 turbo

CarLover · 04-09-2007 10:40am

911 Turbo is the everyday supercar. They have a terrible image attached to them but I'd have to test drive one if I had the money. Also...they won't break your heart like other supercars.

prospect · 04-09-2007 10:43am

Maserati Quattroporte is the only man for Irish roads. I know its not a super or hyper car, but it is the best option imo.

smash · 04-09-2007 10:44am

If you have the money to buy a supercar then forget about the roads and go and buy a Zonda or something... cars are meant to be driven, no matter what the price tag.

If someone wants to buy a hypercar car, remain anonymous, then ship it to Spain it's up to them but I do think it's a waste.... especially because there will be a few of them knocking around Spain.

And trying to remain anonymous while showing it off doesn't work in this country, it's too small.

Be proud of the car you buy and DRIVE IT! If I had the money to morrow I'd have a Lamborghini Diablo 6.0se as my "every now and then" car and I'd have a Gallardo nera as my every day car.

rowanh · 04-09-2007 11:25am

Well the super cars i plan to buy are,

Honda nsx
Ferrari 328 or 308
Ultima GTR
Noble M12
ferarri 348
Detomaso Pantera

Then ones i would love to own for a short time or even just drive for a day to a week.

ferrari 550
ferrari 575
saleen s7
paganni zonda
ferrari f40
mclaren f1

Hard to say which would be nice to drive around slowly as a daily driver untill you have driven them. I find my car is a bit annoying at times as a daily driver, i only get 15 mpg from it on average and the suspension is so hard it can get a bit head wrecking but then the good points of it make it fun enough that i dont mind. ID say id happily drive any supercar around no matter how much hassle it was unless it was so low i coouldnt go over speed bumps etc.

If i had to pick one supercar to own for a year it would be the ferrari f40.

Rovi · 04-09-2007 11:25am

The ould Audi RS6 is a doddle to drive every day, and will live with pretty much anything but the most 'hyper' of hypercars.

barryfitz · 04-09-2007 11:26am

maidhc wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_LM002

brilliant

peasant · 04-09-2007 11:28am

I really must be getting old ...

IF I won the lohho tomorrow ...I probably WOULD get a 911 (in preference to any other supercar).

Probably not even a turbo, but a Carrera 4S

smash · 04-09-2007 11:30am

wow you are getting old... lol

Rovi · 04-09-2007 11:37am

barryfitz wrote:

brilliant

Even better-
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Lamboghini_traktor.jpg

Hmmmm...... Lamborghini...

RobAMerc · 04-09-2007 11:59am

911 - is the only super car that can be used as a daily driver - certainly no Ferrari could and why would you want to.

I do see a few DB9's used regularly though too.

smash · 04-09-2007 12:13pm

RobAMerc wrote:

911 - is the only super car that can be used as a daily driver - certainly no Ferrari could and why would you want to.

I do see a few DB9's used regularly though too.

you'd want to because you have it, and why couldn't it... There are a good few Ferrari's being used as daily cars and a lot of Astons, and Maseratis (although I don't rate them at all really) and thousands of Porsches

maidhc · 04-09-2007 12:14pm

Rovi wrote:

Hmmmm...... Lamborghini...

No relation whatsoever to the car company, and apart from having a cool name they don't hold a candle towards John Deere, New Holland, or MF, or any of the better known companies.

Funxy · 04-09-2007 12:15pm

peasant wrote:

911's and M3's would be quite able to hack it as a daily driver ...but they're not really "supercars".

The op was talking about supercars. I don't think some listed here are supercars myself. Though all great cars things like the nsx, noble, ultima, maserati, 911's to me are not supercars. I also wouldn't put the f430 or the gallardo as a supercar. But that's just me but as the op said he was looking for those cars a bit higher then 911's, like the porsche supercar the cgt. Which i would imagine would be the worst for sitting at the toll bridge. If the gallardo was included i imagine that would be the best for sitting at the toll bridge. If not then perhaps the ford gt. Remeber these are cheap as chips in the states so they are the affordable supercar

smash · 04-09-2007 12:24pm

yeah, over the last few years the "super car" has kind of gone really...

so now you have lets say "mini super cars" which are affordable to a lot of people
360
F430
Maseratti
Porsche
Aston Martins

and there are a lot of them around... And I suppose there are a good few Gallardo's now in Ireland too, at least 6 I can count.

Then you have "hyper cars" - Zonda, Koenigsegg, Murcielago LP640, Veyron etc etc

But if you want to have real super car you'll have to roal back a few years and pick up something like a Diablo.... hmmmmmmm Diablo... drool....

RobAMerc · 04-09-2007 12:24pm

steve06 wrote:

you'd want to because you have it, and why couldn't it... There are a good few Ferrari's being used as daily cars and a lot of Astons, and Maseratis (although I don't rate them at all really) and thousands of Porsches

I don't know really, if you look at the milage on any 2nd hand Ferrari here or in the UK you'll see they show they've not been used as daily drivers, and given the engine is generally tuned for max performance with max maintainence I doubt you'd want to - would you use your 348 daily when you know that at 40k miles it will probably need an engine rebuild ?

Can I ask why you don't rate the Masser ? I don't think I would rate the Quattroporte as a Supercar either if thats what you mean - theres a few too many doors on it.:)

peasant · 04-09-2007 12:28pm

steve06 wrote:

But if you want to have real super car you'll have to roal back a few years and pick up something like a Diablo.... hmmmmmmm Diablo... drool....

The one where you have to open the door and sit on the sill if you need to reverse?

smash · 04-09-2007 12:30pm

peasant wrote:

The one where you have to open the door and sit on the sill if you need to reverse?

no, that's the countach... I'd still want one though, for a collectors item.

smash · 04-09-2007 12:32pm

RobAMerc wrote:

Can I ask why you don't rate the Masser ? I don't think I would rate it as a Supercar either if thats what you mean - theres a few too many doors on it.:)

yeah I wouldn't rate it as a supercar unless you're tlaking about the MC12... But generally they bore the hell out of me... It's personal taste, I think for the kind of money I could think of a lot nicer cars to buy. I've just never been taken back by one at all.

tdc · 04-09-2007 12:42pm

I know a guy that used to have a Ferrari 456 as his daily driver. I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to use a Ferrari 430 everyday. If you can afford to run it the only problem may be getting over the odd speed bump.

Maserati Quattroporte and the new Gransport can easily be used everyday. The 911 is not a supercar, it's a sports car, like the BMW 6-series.

Aston DB9/V8 vantage are used as daily drivers by plenty of people. Same goes for the Bentley GT.

There are hundreds of supercars driving around everyday in cities like London. It is possible to deal with speed bumps, parking, etc. The reason why the owners don't drive them a lot is because of vandalism/damage to the car.

SGKM · 04-09-2007 1:16pm

I've driven a Murcielago LP640, Ferrari 430 Spider and Porsche 911 (997) turbo and its got to be the 911 turbo.

The 911 turbo is so comfortable, has a light clutch and gearshift, the ergonomics are spot on, it has fantastic steering. You can actually see out of it and park it. The grip available in the corners is unreal. And when you put push it hard acceleration is unbelieveable, it didn't feel any slower than the LP640 (it just didn't sound quite as nice!!) Its a car that you actually could drive every day.

smash · 04-09-2007 1:32pm

but come on... It still can't come close to the LP640. Just for the pure felling of "I'm in a lambo..... I'm 6years old again and it's christmas and I just got given a free pass to everything in harrods" I'd have a constant smle on my face for weeks.

tdc · 04-09-2007 1:37pm

SGKM wrote:

I've driven a Murcielago LP640, Ferrari 430 Spider and Porsche 911 (997) turbo and its got to be the 911 turbo.

The 911 turbo is so comfortable, has a light clutch and gearshift, the ergonomics are spot on, it has fantastic steering. You can actually see out of it and park it. The grip available in the corners is unreal. And when you put push it hard acceleration is unbelieveable, it didn't feel any slower than the LP640 (it just didn't sound quite as nice!!) Its a car that you actually could drive every day.

was this at thruxton experience or something similar?

Theboinkmaster · 04-09-2007 1:44pm

The problem in this country is you cannot have a 'supercar' as an everyday car due to vandalism.

I know people with ferrari's and porsche turbo's and they just sit in the garage except maybe for weekends otherwise they get keyed or somehow vandalised no matter where they park them. It's true that we are a nation of begrudgers and it me pisses me off whereas in the states people compliment you on the car.

I'd 'just' get an m3 or audi rs4 as they'd go largely unnoticed by the average scrote....

CarLover · 04-09-2007 1:53pm

re 911 Turbo is not a supercar...

It costs €215000 for a new Turbo.
BMW 650 is ~€130000.

How much does a 430 cost? Hundred grand more maybe? How do you judge a supercar? By price...or something else?

I'd class the Porsche as a supercar. If you class the Aston Martin DB9 as one then so is the Porsche.

smash · 04-09-2007 2:01pm

I think there's a lot to do with how excluse and unique they are too...

Rovi · 04-09-2007 2:03pm

maidhc wrote:

No relation whatsoever to the car company...

http://www.lambocars.com/tra/model.htm
http://www.duttondirect.com/history/view/make:lamborghini
http://www.italiancar.net/site/cars/lamborghini/index/lambo.html

SGKM · 04-09-2007 2:09pm

steve06 wrote:

but come on... It still can't come close to the LP640. Just for the pure felling of "I'm in a lambo..... I'm 6years old again and it's christmas and I just got given a free pass to everything in harrods" I'd have a constant smle on my face for weeks.

Yeh, it was in thruxton alright.

I just didnt warm to the Lambo like I did to the Porsche. It was very low, extremely wide and difficult to see out of. I wouldn't dare attempting to try and use one as an every day car! Even though a decent spec Lambo would be about £100k more (in the UK) than a decent spec 911 turbo, I'd take the 911 turbo any day. I would have definately said that I preferred the Lambo before I drove them back to back.

Which "supercar" does slow the best?

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