Radio/TV Coverage Comments

Pherekydes

Not sure whether to post this here or in TV, but I felt it's better suited to here.

Anyway, Saturday's RTE news bulletin at 9 P.M. featured a small clip from France-Argentina and a small preview of Ireland's opener and then...nothing!

WTF? Not even a listing of Saturday's 3 match results? With 3 of the top teams. I know they were one-sided, but not even the results?

What do you Rugby fans think? RTE frequently does this to Athletics, which is my sport, but I found it a bit peculiar that they gave the results of the "Home" nations in Euro's Soccer qualifiers, but didn't give the results in Rugby's World Cup.

:mad:

Magic Pips

TV3 Coverage:
Opening Match;
All 4 Ireland group games
The 2 Quarters that Ireland could play in
Both Semis
Final

Setanta bought the full rights, and as i understand it, Tv3 got the terrestrial rights because all Irish competitive fixtures must be available on terrestrial tellie.

Looking for to tomorrow's (tonights) match, see how they go!

mikeruurds

Slow coach wrote:

Not sure whether to post this here or in TV, but I felt it's better suited to here.

Anyway, Saturday's RTE news bulletin at 9 P.M. featured a small clip from France-Argentina and a small preview of Ireland's opener and then...nothing!

WTF? Not even a listing of Saturday's 3 match results? With 3 of the top teams. I know they were one-sided, but not even the results?

What do you Rugby fans think? RTE frequently does this to Athletics, which is my sport, but I found it a bit peculiar that they gave the results of the "Home" nations in Euro's Soccer qualifiers, but didn't give the results in Rugby's World Cup.

:mad:

It's pretty shocking tbh. Surely in any tournament all the results matter as they may affect Irelands future games.

Bad show by RTE.

daveirl

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connundrum

Sour grapes IMO. Taking the attitude of 'If we're not showing it, then it doesn't matter.'

Sky Sports is doing something similar. Last nights hourly news ran with soccer, tennis, F1 and something else. I didn't actually stay to see if they mentioned anything about England's win as it was 12 minutes past the hour and they were still banging on about the American Open.

Bad show all round IMO.

It reminds me of the crap cricket world cup coverage by RTE...

The sports news usually consisted of Soccer Soccer Soccer, GAA GAA, Horse Racing... and finally some lads are swinging a bat somewhere. :rolleyes:

daveirl

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RuggieBear

NotWormBoy wrote:

Are we allowed mention torrent tracker sites that have repeats of terrestrial tv shows that would have all the rugby wc matches? Pretty sure its legal, but don't want to risk a banning by posting it...

pretty sure won't cut it.:)

Personally i have nothing against it but i believe there is a boards general policy against it as it is still copyrighted material.

ednwireland

chalkitdown1 wrote:

Is there a reason why tv3 are only showing a tiny number of games? Their picture quality is much better than ITV.

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i watch it on itv on sky and its crystal clear widescreen with full surround sound how is that worse than tv3 unless youve got a crappy signal on utv. partisan commentary doesnt bother me being born in england england dont look like getting out of the group anyway so that'll shut up itv. now where did i put that engalnd rugby jersey

zAbbo

Em... thats not legal at all, copyrighted material and all that.

robinph

Damn ITV/ BBC only ever talking about the Irish games and never mentioning any other teams that are taking part. I mean the defending champions and the two top ranked teams and favourites were playing yesterday and they didn't even mention it, it's a bloody disgrace the bias on these English channels. :mad:











Oh, you said it was RTE news didn't you. Oops.

daveirl

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yayamark

ya its like -what rugby world cup?- dont bother with that the us tennis open is much more important.

Hate that

NotWormBoy

Thought so. :-) Cheers anyways, lads.

People know how to PM anyways.

daveirl

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Amz

Write in to e-mail bag on the Ray D'Arcy show

nesf

Slow coach wrote:

Not sure whether to post this here or in TV, but I felt it's better suited to here.

Anyway, Saturday's RTE news bulletin at 9 P.M. featured a small clip from France-Argentina and a small preview of Ireland's opener and then...nothing!

WTF? Not even a listing of Saturday's 3 match results? With 3 of the top teams. I know they were one-sided, but not even the results?

What do you Rugby fans think? RTE frequently does this to Athletics, which is my sport, but I found it a bit peculiar that they gave the results of the "Home" nations in Euro's Soccer qualifiers, but didn't give the results in Rugby's World Cup.

:mad:

Myself and my father were annoyed but not particularly surprised by it. We'll hear about Ireland and maybe about other results around the QF stage I imagine.

komodosp

The ITV coverage is crap... the crowd noise is too low, the commentators are monotonous, or in the Welsh match, hardly ever talking but being really dramatic with everything he said... As annoying as Ryle Nugent might be at times, he makes a lively game of it... He and Ralph Keyes sound like they are enjoying the match at least...

It's really annoying as it's ruining my enjoyment of the matches... :mad:

Are newstalk supposed to have all the matches? Every time I turn it on, there doesn't seem to be a match on...

...update, this ITV guy (Scotland v Portugal) seems to be a bit better as opposed to the other guy (Samoa v South Africa) who just sounded totally bored... Even before the match got boring...

komodosp

They're coverage was good but their was a time lag between what I was watching and what they commentated on that just got too annoying.

Not sure if you have a HDD-recorder with the timeshift thing, but you could always try delaying the match by whatever this lag is...

kermitdfrog

What the hell is going on with Setanta? Not only have they seemingly renaged on their advertised promise of showing ALL 48 games live on Setanta Ireland (with both the Welsh and Scottish games being shown on Setanta 1), but their own website seems unaware of this fact (still advertising all games on SI), and they can't stick to their own schedule (Rugby Nomad is on now, AGAIN, despite the Scottish game scheduled to be shown). And Eircom.net is showing rugby Nomad under the Scotland v Portugal heading.

I tried complaining on their phone line, but was fobbed off by some clueless operator with bull (which was all incorrect). Am going to mail their service desk, and if there's no response I'll be mailing again with the advertising standards authority and IRB CC'd. Perhaps an overreaction, but I'm VERY pissed off.

Sundy

oh no this panel is soo boring, especially Matt Cooper bland feckin central

Trojan

Actually I'm just as p!ssed off - missed the Wales game this morning because of it, as well as Scotland this afternoon. Paste in the addresses and your template and I'll do the same

robinph

I'm annoyed with the lack of games being shown as well and shocked that ITV are not showing some of the Scotland and Wales games too.

spanner

I do like Cooper on the radio but not in rugby commentating, I has a great way of cutting into politicans and getting answer but this doesnt work when we want the panelist to debate the subject

RuggieBear

tv threads merged

EdgarAllenPoo

kermitdfrog wrote:

What the hell is going on with Setanta? Not only have they seemingly renaged on their advertised promise of showing ALL 48 games live on Setanta Ireland (with both the Welsh and Scottish games being shown on Setanta 1), but their own website seems unaware of this fact (still advertising all games on SI), and they can't stick to their own schedule (Rugby Nomad is on now, AGAIN, despite the Scottish game scheduled to be shown). And Eircom.net is showing rugby Nomad under the Scotland v Portugal heading.

If it's any consolation they're on Setanta Ireland tomorrow.

kermitdfrog

GDM wrote:

If it's any consolation they're on Setanta Ireland tomorrow.

Cheers for the heads up, I'll set the recorder, but at this stage I wouldn't hold my breath on them showing them, despite what their schedule says.

philstar

Way Too many comercial breaks on all channels, i mean five minutes of analysis and then cut to a break:rolleyes: give me a break!!

and i hate the way the guy on sentanta keeps glancing to the camera as if to "connect" with the viewer its so.........cheesy and Sky

thebaz

i moaned about George Hook , lacking Irish support previously , and being extremly negative -- but God the TV3 panel is so banal and unimaginative its scary , and before you know it there is another TV extended ad break -- bring back George and the boys , all is forgiven --
and sorry why was Jim Glennon dragged in ???

Jip

seabee wrote:

That was a dirty dig Glennon gave brennan re the fans whistling...

Something along the lines of "We don't all have the bad habits you have Trevor". Gone right off Glennon after that barb.
I don't mind Cooper on his radio show but he really is a bit too stiff on the t.v., the Pinochet comment gave me a laugh though.

ITV isn't too bad, the Kiwi commentator is enjoyable to listen too, came out with a few good ones during the All Black-Italian game but he did make a mess of naming BOD last night.

Dodge

Jip wrote:

ITV isn't too bad, the Kiwi commentator is enjoyable to listen too, came out with a few good ones during the All Black-Italian game but he did make a mess of naming BOD last night.

And others. Also made a few comments about things being "not very Irish". The commentator then said something like "They're all professional now" :rolleyes:

The best commentary team is probably Conor McNamara and Philip Matthews on TV3. Matthews is excellent IMO

daveirl

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Jip

Well, when I mean enjoyable I meant it in an amusing cringey kind of way because of the comments he comes out with, not in an insightful way of course !

kevpants

Watched some of Ire v Nam on UTV until Leamy went on a break and yer man goes "David Leamy!!!", swiftly followed by me changing to Setanta. Is the picture quality that bit worse on TV3 or is it just me? Looks like there's Vaseline on the lense or something.

Can be quite entertaining watching on TV and listening to Newstalk. George whinging on an on "This is the worst performance since Socrates was engaged in ravenous debate with the philistines...." and other verbose crap meanwhile Hugh Cahill is so excited to be commentating live on a World Cup he actually nearly soils himself any time a player even remotely breaks a tackle or even gets beoyond the gain line.

I have to say though Matt Williams is a LEGEND. His summing up of the Argentinian game plan against France as "That full backs a blooday winger so lets drop high balls on 'im then batter the living daylights out of him!" Class.

ollyk1

So I'm heading home from work on Friday night to get my ass groove just right for the France v Argie game and as I'm going in the gate of the apartment block where I live who is paying for his Domino's Pizza in all his blazing PINK shirt wonderfulness instead of enjoying a night in gay Paris??

Da bold RYLE NUGENT!

I decide I can't let the moment pass as Ryle officially joins the armchair legions and remark "All set for the match Ryle?" and I get my one and only "Absolutely!!" of this RWC campaign!



PS I was half tempted to invite myself around to watch the game with the sound down. Then at least you'd have the RTE commentary during the game and turn on Newstalk during half time.....:p

spank_inferno

For the Ire/Nam game last night I was watching on tv3 muted with Newstalk on the radio.
They were both coming through in sync (no 1-2 sec gap between the two).

There was more fiestyness in the newtalk commentary nand better studio analysis. Though I wonder what has EOS ever done to hook to incur such wrath from George?

EdgarAllenPoo

Didn't he work with him at Connacht and when Hook started covering rugby for RTE he never missed a chance to take a dig at EOS?

moe_sizlak

matt williams , you wonder if he got really excited would he sound like the guy on the harvey norman add what with the way he speaks in such a wide mouthed aussie way
i enjoyed the banter between the commentator and murray mexted on itv
very laid back , the comment by mexted on how that doesnt sound like the irish , that sounds logical , mmm , kiwis are a bit backward , there a pretty insular nation and would probably view ireland they way other nations did 50 yrs ago ,

by the way am in the only one who cant bear to listen to sean fitzpatrick
the kiwi accent is a pretty horrible one but his is almost indesiphable

fitzpatrick is a really arrogant guy , i was in nz a number of yrs ago and while hes a legend its well known that hes not a very nice guy , the summer i spent there he used to do adds on tv for something or other , the set up was him in an airport and a bunch of jappaneese tourists are close by , while flogging whatever it was , fitzpatrick while giving the jappaneese a contemptous look makes a really obnoxious comment , oh yeah and we speak unglish over here , whole thing was in bad taste and a bit ironic considerring i can barely recognise fitzys unglish most of the time

awesome player though

Pinetree Boy

daveirl wrote:

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Nothing to do with his one eye Dave. The man is just an idiot. So glad the NZ broadcaster is the opposition to NZ Sky for whom he works.

EdgarAllenPoo

I quite like the Setanta setup, even Jeremy Staunton was decent. I like the guy (Fred Cogley, I think) who was doing commentary on the Argies/Georgia match.

daveirl

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Mayo Exile

Originally posted by Valentia: If you live down the country and don't have Satellite or UTV you're screwed. TV3 are only showing a handful of gamed.

A valid point, even if you have access to Setanta. I'm in Dundalk and have one of those DTT trial boxes and so can get Setanta Ireland for nowt at the moment. But in many parts, especially the west, TV3 is not even available at all via your standard TV aerial, despite them being 9 years on the air now, so rugby fans who can't/won't get a satellite dish are screwed altogether!

daveirl

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Mayo Exile

Originally posted by daveirl: You can't get TV3 what a disgrace! Do the BCI not demand they have 99/100% coverage?

They should but they don't. At the original homestead (Westport area) TV3 is actually supplied by the local UHF deflector system thats transmits BBC/ITV/CH4 to the area. So you have the situation that a 'national' Irish TV station is actually distributed by a once illegal form of broadcast platform. Most people seem content with this, so at least you are getting the RWC down there! But for areas unable to do this, its not a very good state of affairs.

EdgarAllenPoo

daveirl wrote:

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Must be him then. With the exception of how he pronounces Donnacha O'Callaghan's last name I think he's very good.:D

RuggieBear

can someone tell me if setanta itv is repeating the england south africa match? and what time it is at?

Amz

Not sure when but Setanta have repeated all of the matches. If you're near a radio though Newstalk are broadcasting the match tonight.

Just checked Setanta Sports website later tonight Setanta Ireland are repeating it at 23:15 and again at 9:45 tomorrow morning.

RuggieBear

awesome. couldn't get he setanta websie to get off tha advertising screen.

being dragged out to dinner by girlfriend.

in limerick for the weekend too. know anwhere good/safe to watch rugby?:p

esit: bloody laptop keybord is giving up the ghost...half the keys wont work unless you hammer them

meathman 007

the coverage of this world cup in ireland is a complete joke imo - in sure there is a lot of people especially is rural areas that dont pick up utv and dont have setanta - so they miss out on pretty much all the group games as a result - really missing rtes coverage, hook does talk a lot of garbage, but it does make good entertainment

Amz

To be fair, people have known RTE wouldn't have the world cup for well over a year. if they were interested enough they could have done something about it before now.

CapalDubh

mikeruurds wrote:

It's pretty shocking tbh. Surely in any tournament all the results matter as they may affect Irelands future games.

Bad show by RTE.

Maybe because they lost the rights ...they feel it shouldnt exist:eek: