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Graffiti at Glen O The Downs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    Seems the Lisbon Treaty has touched a nerve as it has been painted again

    Vote No to Sinn Fein graffiti being graffitied :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WiCkLaMuLlA


    The first slogan on that wall was "Free Nicky Kelly",that would have went up on it as far as I'm aware in 1974 and was there untill he was released sometime in the 80's.It was for when he was in for the sallins train robbery (he used be in the IRSP)

    Republican Slogans on that wall have been there for over 30 years,ye pack of blow ins :p
    g'up ya bhoy ya:)

    ya that wall has been a 'provo propaganda billboard' fer years an years. I actually know of a chap (from Kilcoole) and have seen him wandering up with a brush and pot o' paint to write a slogan or two, now i'm not saying he has written them all but judging from his very nationalistic stance i wouldn't be surprised if he had !!!! do ye remember the garage that used to be down under that wall ???(the remains were still there last year i tink)

    twas run by Austin Byrne iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Sorry to drag up this thread but I always wondered about that wall. Anyone know who's behind it? (not literally)


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WiCkLaMuLlA


    Jaafa wrote: »
    Sorry to drag up this thread but I always wondered about that wall. Anyone know who's behind it? (not literally)




    funny ya shud bring this up again as i was talking to a few people about this from Bray/Greystones a few weeks ago in Italy of all places !!!! and we reckon there are a number of people involved but i can't remember who they reckon it is. Oil PM ya who i know is involved as i don't tink i shud be posting their family name on 'ere !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,108 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The slogan on it at the moment is weird - something about boats - anyone know what it's about?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Is it something to do with boats on a GAA crest?


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WiCkLaMuLlA


    i ain't been home in Wickla fer nearly 3 years so i dunno whats on that wall now, will someone take a pic. and post it up here so we can all have a look please ?? !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Looks like "burn the boats", and a couple of painted flags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    I drive that road every day and have been trying hard to read it recently and "burn the boats" is as good as I've managed! Does that make sense?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    Think it reads 'Burn the Bonds'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    That's what I thought it must say when I first read it, but I've tried day after day to confirm what is says without causing a major pile up and I'm fairly sure it's boats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,108 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It said free Marion Price 32CSM a few weeks ago but I can't figure out what the boats thing is.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 WiCkLaMuLlA


    I have no idea what a reference to 'Burn the bonds' or 'burn the boats' could mean. Did they burn 'The Eskund'......no i don't tink so. Now the Skipper of that very boat lives or lived a couple of miles from that very wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    Burn the bond holders? Anglo?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Isn't there some GAA team which has three boats on its crest? I think that it is a reference to defeating that team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    slowburner wrote: »
    Isn't there some GAA team which has three boats on its crest? I think that it is a reference to defeating that team.

    I'd say that is closer to the truth. Looks like the flags either side are for the Kilmac GAA club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Muas Tenek


    Andy Andrews is an inspirational speaker - He talks here about Hernando Cortez who ordered his soldiers to burn their boats so that the only option was to win or die.

    This is obviously an inspirational message for the Wicklow GAA ladies who won the All Ireland last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,108 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Muas Tenek wrote: »
    Andy Andrews is an inspirational speaker - He talks here about Hernando Cortez who ordered his soldiers to burn their boats so that the only option was to win or die.

    This is obviously an inspirational message for the Wicklow GAA ladies who won the All Ireland last week.

    It wasn't obvious to most others here :cool::confused:

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Cortez didn't want the men to have a back up plan, bacause the boats would become the backup plan if they lost the battles. So they had to fight till the death, he told them to burn the boats and they could use the Yucatans boats to get home with their fortune.

    Completely obvious!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    Burn the Buns, someone burnt the buns


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Slogger Jogger


    Gmol wrote: »
    Burn the Buns, someone burnt the buns

    Could have fooled me. Could be anything. I thought it said burn the boats :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Could have fooled me. Could be anything. I thought it said burn the boats :)
    It did but burn the buns was mildly amusing :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Son of Jack


    Well done to the Wicklow Ladies on their great win.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2011/1009/wicklow_newyork.html

    They did the county proud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭mirrorball


    I remember something like "SACK MAC KEANO BACK" was up there during WC 2002. I wonder if anyone has a kept a record or can recall every slogan.....for better or for worse, the wall is a bit of a local icon!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    You might well believe it is a local icon but I cannot agree - it is nothing more than vandalism and the 'messages' daubed on that wall don't reflect the views of this county or country.
    What impression is left with tourists as they see it on their way back to Rosslare?

    I saw graffitti in an almost identical situation in the south of France, donkey's years ago. It's message was quite simply, "F#¢k TOURISTS" .
    I remember this more than any other physical feature of that place.

    Every time I pass that old orchard wall I worry what parting message will be left with our tourists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    slowburner wrote: »
    You might well believe it is a local icon but I cannot agree - it is nothing more than vandalism and the 'messages' daubed on that wall don't reflect the views of this county or country.
    What impression is left with tourists as they see it on their way back to Rosslare?

    I saw graffitti in an almost identical situation in the south of France, donkey's years ago. It's message was quite simply, "F#¢k TOURISTS" .
    I remember this more than any other physical feature of that place.

    Every time I pass that old orchard wall I worry what parting message will be left with our tourists.

    The message you saw in France was offensive whereas it has never been offensive there was a also a message in support of people with autism a few years ago which I'm sure was widely supported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭mirrorball


    slowburner wrote: »
    You might well believe it is a local icon but I cannot agree - it is nothing more than vandalism and the 'messages' daubed on that wall don't reflect the views of this county or country.
    What impression is left with tourists as they see it on their way back to Rosslare?

    I saw graffitti in an almost identical situation in the south of France, donkey's years ago. It's message was quite simply, "F#¢k TOURISTS" .
    I remember this more than any other physical feature of that place.

    Every time I pass that old orchard wall I worry what parting message will be left with our tourists.

    Maybe icon is the wrong word but it's been part of the landscape for over thirty years. I did say for better or for worse......I don't like it myself but the Saipan graffiti made me smile at the time.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    mirrorball wrote: »
    Maybe icon is the wrong word but it's been part of the landscape for over thirty years. I did say for better or for worse......I don't like it myself but the Saipan graffiti made me smile at the time.
    Fair enough.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Gmol wrote: »
    The message you saw in France was offensive whereas it has never been offensive there was a also a message in support of people with autism a few years ago which I'm sure was widely supported
    Agreed that the message I saw in France was offensive but what's to stop this person from putting up something equally offensive? Many of the messages put up there have been expressly republican and that may well be offensive to British tourists.
    Just because he (I presume it's a he) put up something about autism doesn't give him a right to continue painting messages about anything he feels aggrieved about.


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