Irish Football This Weekend.

Pighead

Friday, 7th September 2007
Eircom Premier League


Derry City vs. St. Patrick's Athletic
Live on TG4
Galway United vs. Drogheda United
Waterford United vs. Bray Wanderers
Longford Town vs. Sligo Rovers
Cork Vs UCD (Monday)

Eircom League First Division:

Limerick 37 vs. Monaghan United
Finn Harps vs. Kilkenny City
Wexford Youths vs. Shelbourne
Cobh Ramblers vs. Athlone Town
Kildare County vs. Dundalk

As a gambling man, i'm tempted to take on Pats tonight due to the fact that they can't really go up to Derry and settle for a draw. They have to go for the win. They've also been on a poor run of late (Hammered Waterford last week but the blues are pretty rubbish in fairness), Pats recent away for has been pants as well losing 5 and drawing 2 of their last 7. Derry are on a decent run(unbeaten in 6) and I reckon they can put the final nail in Pats title hopes.

Dundalk are in a similar situation to Pats in that the have to go away and they have to get a win.(although the need for a win isn't quite as great as for Pats). They play Kildare and the way they're playing I'd be surprised if they managed to grab all 3 points. Without Williams the wheels have come off Dundalks title hopes, the sooner hes back the better. Reckon this will end up a draw.

In the other games, Cobh should beat Athlone, Wexford may be good enough to get a draw with the new and improved Shels and Cobh and Harps should win easily. Will be cheering on Galway against the Drogs too but that ones got draw written all over it. Although with both Stuart Byrne and Shane Robinson missing Galway may just nick it.

PS: KdjaCL, I see Fahy is missing for your boys tonight, is that a big loss?

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Pighead wrote:

Wexford may be good enough to get a draw with the new and improved Shels

You seem to be missing some vital information here my friend.

James Chambers (our bestest player) and Mark O'Brien (MOTM in the 4-0 v L37 last weekend) are both out of this game through suspension. That's 2 out of four of our regular starting midfield.

Also, Rooney is out injured. Who is another starter on the wing. With three quarters of our midfield out, we;ll struggle. The players to come in there simply aren't up to it, imo. As one of them, Kieran Harte, who is decent, will be at a wedding.

We won't win tonight. Get on Wexford Young Boys at 3/1 if you are gambling this evening.

DSB

I think we'll sneak it regardless.

Zebra3

Hoping we can get a win tonight, and tbh expecting it!

A lot of interesting games over the w/e and from a gambling pov, a few toughies. Harps would seem to be a banker, and I'd expect Drogheda to atone for their complete and utter **** up at home to Galway a couple of weeks ago!

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DSB wrote:

I think we'll sneak it regardless.

Zebra3 wrote:

Hoping we can get a win tonight, and tbh expecting it!

How?

What team in the world can lose three quarters of it's midfield and expect to win?

Not even ManYoo can, look at how bad they've been these past few weeks.

The players we have to come in just aren't up to it, imo.

If he moves Murphy into the middle with JC, then we'll struggle in the defence.

I can't see it tbh.

Zebra3

You were posting at the same time as me and I hadn't read the team news. Not so confident now.

Pighead

DesF wrote:

You seem to be missing some vital information here my friend.

James Chambers (our bestest player) and Mark O'Brien (MOTM in the 4-0 v L37 last weekend) are both out of this game through suspension. That's 2 out of four of our regular starting midfield.

Also, Rooney is out injured. Who is another starter on the wing. With three quarters of our midfield out, we;ll struggle. The players to come in there simply aren't up to it, imo. As one of them, Kieran Harte, who is decent, will be at a wedding.

We won't win tonight. Get on Wexford Young Boys at 3/1 if you are gambling this evening.

Cracking info DesF, elevenaside or irishfootballonline didn't mention Chambers was out. Useless piece of crap website! Not gonna go with Wexford to win outright but shall definitely take them(+1) @4/5. Cheers.

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Pighead wrote:

Cracking info DesF

Well I can hardly take credit for something that's been on the Shels website since yesterday.

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Pighead wrote:

Not gonna go with Wexford to win outright but shall definitely take them(+1) @4/5. Cheers.

I'm not the gambling type, but what does that mean?

Pighead

DesF wrote:

Well I can hardly take credit for something that's been on the Shels website since yesterday.

Why not? I would have. And I would have claimed I heard it from a souce. Pighead loves making himself sound more important than he really is.

Bet of the weekend is Finn Harps HT-FT V Kilkenny, double your money with one simple bet! This betting larks too damn easy.

Pighead

DesF wrote:

I'm not the gambling type, but what does that mean?

Just means that Wexford get a goal start. So if it ends in a draw I'll still win my bet. If its 1-1, it becomes 2-1 to Wexford and thus the bets a winner.

4/5 is just the odds. Put on 5 to win 4(you probably knew that bit)

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Pighead wrote:

Just means that Wexford get a goal start. So if it ends in a draw I'll still win my bet. If its 1-1, it becomes 2-1 to Wexford and thus the bets a winner.

Wow, I'd definitely take that.


Cheers.

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OK, I've just been informed, by a source , that Chambers is not, in fact, suspended for this game.

Still though, we won't win.

applehunter

Where are you getting that evs on Harps HT FT?

My bet is Derry & Sligo to win. Almost 5/1 the double on Sboilsports.

Aside from the betting Im interested to see how Drogs get on in Galway. They are stuttering at the moment and Galway seem have turned thing around with that home win under their belt.

Waterford vs Bray is another huge game. Bray have the players to punish Waterford on the break and I think they can get a good win at the RSC.

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applehunter wrote:

Waterford vs Bray is another huge game. Bray have the players to punish Waterford on the break and I think they can get a good win at the RSC.

Yeah, if Bray play the way they did against City recently they should be too strong for Waherfurh.

That and the blues are in freefall at the minute, actually, they are just plain shíte.

If Longford can better Waterford's result they'll jump above them in the league too. Big weekend at the bottom.

What the hell happened to Derry this season though? Runners up on Goal Difference last time, and now languishing in 7th, eighteen points off the top? Their fax machine must have been working this season.

Pighead

applehunter wrote:

Where are you getting that evs on Harps HT FT?
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Paddy Power, its 10/11. Just a shade under evens.

applehunter

DesF wrote:

Yeah, if Bray play the way they did against City recently they should be too strong for Waherfurh.

That and the blues are in freefall at the minute, actually, they are just plain shíte.

If Longford can better Waterford's result they'll jump above them in the league too. Big weekend at the bottom.

What the hell happened to Derry this season though? Runners up on Goal Difference last time, and now languishing in 7th, eighteen points off the top? Their fax machine must have been working this season.

Bad Start, new system under Fenlon, changing managers in the middle of the season, lack of a regular goalscorer...to name a few.

But I think Robertson has turned it around. Unbeaten in 7 and Ciaran Martyn is scoring from midfield. Sammy Morrow looks decent and Ken Oman has turned into the best centre back in the league this season.

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applehunter wrote:

Ken Oman has turned into the best centre back in the league this season.

Since he's come on the scene I've thought he was brilliant actually.

I would have loved him to be a Shelactico back in the day.

applehunter

But he always seemed kind of timid or shy, see him now and hes organising all around him.

Playing with natural leaders like Darren Kelly & Peter Hutton has really helped him and he has come out of his shell as a result.

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We did an interview with him for the website after a game last season. They had beaten us.

Timid and shy are not two words I would use to describe Ken Oman on that day.

KdjaCL

Pighead wrote:

PS: KdjaCL, I see Fahy is missing for your boys tonight, is that a big loss?

Nope he plays wide right now that Keane and Ndo are fit, If keane and Ndo play we will score goals, if Paisley plays we will concede.

Fancy a win if Keane and Ndo start.


kdjac

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DesF wrote:

OK, I've just been informed, by a source , that Chambers is not, in fact, suspended for this game.

Still though, we won't win.

Hmm.

He seemingly was suspended.

No Chambers.

Definite loss for Shels this evening.

MrJoeSoap

You reckon Des? Odds on Wexford are pretty big! 4/1! Worth a punt?

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MrJoeSoap wrote:

You reckon Des? Odds on Wexford are pretty big! 4/1! Worth a punt?

My jaysis, there was some mix up all week with Shels.

Everyone thought Chambers was suspended, turns outhe's not.

He's on the bench tonight, because he wasn't 'mentally ready' to start. Who sai there's no prima donnas in the eL?

Anyway Mark, yeah, it's 1-1 now having been one down.

I reckon The Young Boys be too strong second half.

Are you home by the way? If you are, are you coming back to the team?

MrJoeSoap

DesF wrote:

Are you home by the way? If you are, are you coming back to the team?

Yeah just got home last week, I'll definitely be coming back to the team sooner or later, but have a couple of things to get sorted first (a job being high on the list!). I'm nowhere near the level of (un)fitness I was at though, those Aussie beers, I tell ya! Neil is still over there, don't expect him back any time soon...

Anyway, Betfair went down between 7 and 8 so didn't put any bets on!

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MrJoeSoap wrote:

those Aussie beers, I tell ya!

Carlton Draft I hope. None of that VB shíte.

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Neil is still over there, don't expect him back any time soon...

Cool. Is he playing ball?

MrJoeSoap

DesF wrote:

Carlton Draft I hope. None of that VB shíte.

Carlton Draft, Carlton Cold, Twoheys New, Twoheys Extra Dry, Jager, bottles of Jack and Coke...

DesF wrote:

Cool. Is he playing ball?

Yeah he's playing for a side in Hamersley, 15mins north of Perth.

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Shels take a late lead in the second half.

Chambers.

lol

MrJoeSoap

Count yourself lucky bossman! I'll listen to Pighead in future!

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DesF wrote:

I'm not the gambling type

Thank Christ.

I must stop being so negative.:D

KdjaCL

We lost not sure how but we did lose to a OG from a Derry team that somehow beat Gothernburg but could barley get 3 men out of their own half.

We play football therefore we should win does not work in the EL.


kdjac

DSB

Chuffed at the Shels result tonight. We didn't play great, but it is those wins which are sometimes the most important.

Pighead

DesF wrote:

You seem to be missing some vital information here my friend.

James Chambers (our bestest player) and Mark O'Brien (MOTM in the 4-0 v L37 last weekend) are both out of this game through suspension. That's 2 out of four of our regular starting midfield.

You lied to me Des. Do you work for Paddy Power? Was this an elaborate plot to part Pighead and his money?:)

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If you'd come back and read the thread a bit later, you would have seen I rectified my mistake.

I can't believe we won anyway.

KdjaCL

Haverty came on as a sub, so far hes the best player to play for Shels this year


kdjac

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KdjaCL wrote:

Haverty came on as a sub, so far hes the best player to play for Shels this year

Hilarious I'm sure.

Collins, McColloch and that boy Chambers are the three best players in the First Division.

ciaran76

DesF wrote:

Hilarious I'm sure.

Collins, McColloch and that boy Chambers are the three best players in the First Division.

I would add Robbie Farrell from Monaghan to that. IMHO.

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ciaran76 wrote:

I would add Robbie Farrell from Monaghan to that. IMHO.

But I wasn't doing a Top 4 list, I was doing a Top 3:D

Anyway, if I was doing a Top 4, I'd have added Jim Crawford instead.

ciaran76

DesF wrote:

But I wasn't doing a Top 4 list, I was doing a Top 3:D

Anyway, if I was doing a Top 4, I'd have added Jim Crawford instead.

Thats cos your bias but as Bohs fan I know I am right !!!:D

MrJoeSoap

Even as a Shels fan I'm sure Gethins warrants a place in the top... eh... five???

Zebra3

Dundalk lost in Newbridge! :eek:

We're playing Kildare twice in the next two weeks......