russia vs everyone else!!

dream brother

So what do ye think about 4 RAF Tornado jets intercepting eight Russian military aircraft which were approaching British airspace, sounds like Putlin streching his msucles to see what he can get away with!

Jesus Wept

If Russia wish to declare war on the UK, they have my full support.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

I am so hungover it's not even funny - thats what I think!

Jigsaw

Maybe the Russian's sat nav was fúcked

magick

Jigsaw wrote:

Maybe the Russian's sat nav was fúcked

In Soviet Russia, Space Station abandons u!

layke

I seriously doubt Russia would start WW3 any time soon.

UK is a part of the EU and an unprevoked attack would mean everyone else in Europe is oblidged to go to war. Plus the UK is great pals with the US, that would mean 2 superior superpowers attacking 1.

If anything you don't know what goes on behind closed doors. For all we know Putin and Brown ochistrated this to reinforce the theory that large military forces are needed and the budget spent is justified. A guess of course.

Steez

Yeah just like last time:

"Vasili! The sat nav Bsod'd!"
"Crap, jettison that missile so and we'll pull in and have a look"

Damn sneaky russians. I still love them though, they're our last hope!

Terry

Steez wrote:

Yeah just like last time:

"Vasili! The sat nav Bsod'd!"
"Crap, jettison that missile so and we'll pull in and have a look"

Damn sneaky russians. I still love them though, they're our last hope!

There is another.

Quick, distract everyone from the mess in Iraq.

dream brother

layke wrote:

If anything you don't know what goes on behind closed doors. For all we know Putin and Brown ochistrated this to reinforce the theory that large military forces are needed and the budget spent is justified. A guess of course.

This could be very close to the truth!!!

faceman

this kind of thing happens alot seemingly but you dont hear about it half the time. Flexin muscles ftw

Exit

dream brother wrote:

So what do ye think about 4 RAF Tornado jets intercepting eight Russian military aircraft which were approaching British airspace, sounds like Putlin streching his msucles to see what he can get away with!

Putlin? Doesn't he run those holiday camps?

KilbarrackBlows

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/21/AR2007082101145.html

British Jets Shadow Russian Plane

By THOMAS WAGNER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 21, 2007; 3:05 PM

LONDON -- Two Royal Air Force jets shadowed a Russian strategic bomber that approached British air space last week, the Ministry of Defense said Tuesday.

The incident occurred Friday, the same day Russian President Vladimir Putin flexed his military's muscle by placing strategic bombers back on long-range patrol for the first time since the breakup of the Soviet Union

Britain's defense ministry issued two photographs on its Web site showing one of the two RAF Typhoon F2s flying near the Russian Tu-95 strategic bomber over the North Atlantic ocean.

The ministry provided few details about where and why this happened. But the Russian warplane apparently was in international air space and approaching Britain's skies when it was shadowed.

Last month, two Russian bombers briefly entered British air space but turned back after British fighter jets intercepted them.

Under British and NATO regulations, Typhoon F2s are responsible for defending British air space.

In Russia on Friday, Putin announced that 20 strategic bombers had been sent far over the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic oceans _ showing off Moscow's muscular new posture.

Putin said halting long-range bombers after the Soviet collapse had hurt Russia's security because other nations _ an oblique reference to the United States _ had continued such missions

Soviet bombers routinely flew missions to areas where nuclear-tipped cruise missiles could be launched at the United States. They stopped in the post-Soviet economic meltdown. But the wealth from booming oil prices has allowed Russia to sharply increase its military spending.

Eleven Russian military planes _ including strategic bombers and fighter jets _ carried out maneuvers west of NATO member Norway on Friday, a military official said.

Norway sent F-16 fighter jets to observe and photograph the Russian planes, which rounded the northern tip of Norway and flew south over the Norwegian Sea toward the Faeroe Islands before turning back, said Brig. Gen. Ole Asak, chief of the Norwegian Joint Air Operations Center.

A pair of Russian Tu-95 strategic bombers approached the Pacific Island of Guam _ home to a major U.S. military base _ this month for the first time since the Cold War.

Last month, Norwegian F-16s were also scrambled when Tu-95s headed south along the Norwegian coast in international air space.

faceman

if russia wanted to fly over irish air space, who would stop her?

I wouldnt be surprised if bertie asked michael o'leary to lash up a few ryanair jets to thwart them!!

nice1franko

I'm up for russia.

AlmightyCushion

faceman wrote:

if russia wanted to fly over irish air space, who would stop him?

I wouldnt be surprised if bertie asked michael o'leary to lash up a few ryanair jets to thwart them!!

I didn't know Russia was a person. I also would presume that Britain would do something about seeing as it's pretty close to their air space.

faceman

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I didn't know Russia was a person. I also would presume that Britain would do something about seeing as it's pretty close to their air space.

fixed

Jumpy

What did you fix?

themole

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I didn't know Russia was a person. I also would presume that Britain would do something about seeing as it's pretty close to their air space.

Well mother russia and all that, he seems to have fixed it

I was at a talk by a software company which was working on air traffic control sw for the UK and apparently the UK monitor our airspace already.

Afaik during 9/11 UK planes patrolled our skies.

AlmightyCushion

themole wrote:

Well mother russia and all that, he seems to have fised it

I was at a talk by a software company which was working on air traffic control sw for the UK and apparently the UK monitor our airspace already.

Afaik during 9/11 UK planes patrolled our skies.

I think they always have. Nothing official and set in stone but a 'sure why not' sort of thing. Kinda funny, how many people give out about 'those damn Brits', yet they patrol our skies for us.

maceocc2

I spend a lot of time in poland close to the boarder of russia (Kalingrad) and every time i'm over, the russian migs are flying all over the place fairly low to the ground as well.

I wouldn't see this as a major thing at all really the aul russian like to flex there military muscle every so often,

nice1franko

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I think they always have. Nothing official and set in stone but a 'sure why not' sort of thing. Kinda funny, how many people give out about 'those damn Brits', yet they patrol our skies for us.

Yeah, we should be grateful to them it's not like they're doing it for their own good.

bill_ashmount

themole wrote:

I was at a talk by a software company which was working on air traffic control sw for the UK and apparently the UK monitor our airspace already.

I thought we monitored a lot of their airspace?, especially around Scotland.

I'm probably just mixing this up , I think that is commercial airspace around Scotland tracked from Shannon.

Tar.Aldarion

I'd fight for Russia.

Terry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLe6fhBejNI

weemcd

Terry wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLe6fhBejNI

ever find if you think of ANY simpsons episode, almost always in the next 3 to 5 days you see the exact clip you're talking about? Was thinkin about that Lenin one the other day and whaddya know. Happens me all the time

robinph

bill_ashmount wrote:

I thought we monitored a lot of their airspace?, especially around Scotland.

With what exactly?

manc

Shannon should be first off the mark here, seeing as we are neutral they could make a few quid by allowing them to refuel in Shannon on the way to\from the US.

They also might reinstate the Shannon-Heathrow routes, how many seats on a Russian Tu-95.

Terry

weemcd wrote:

ever find if you think of ANY simpsons episode, almost always in the next 3 to 5 days you see the exact clip you're talking about? Was thinkin about that Lenin one the other day and whaddya know. Happens me all the time

Yep, but don't tell the folks in the paranormal forum.

bill_ashmount

robinph wrote:

With what exactly?

with radar on a commercial basis

nice1franko

robinph wrote:

With what exactly?

Yeah, our country is such a joke. We don't have radars or anything.

another "us irish can't do anything right" knob :rolleyes:

faceman

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I think they always have. Nothing official and set in stone but a 'sure why not' sort of thing. Kinda funny, how many people give out about 'those damn Brits', yet they patrol our skies for us.

cool.

ScumLord

Those pesky Russians you can't take your eyes off them for a second, I caught one of them painting my house red the other day. You can get a thing you plug into the wall that drives them away.

I think they always have. Nothing official and set in stone but a 'sure why not' sort of thing. Kinda funny, how many people give out about 'those damn Brits', yet they patrol our skies for us.

Their just paranoid because we don't care who flys over.

robinph

bill_ashmount wrote:

with radar on a commercial basis

The monitoring of your national airspace involves a bit more than just being able to see that there are planes up there, which is the extent of Irelands capacity. The commercial traffic may be monitored from Shannon, but I think that is actually just part of a Europe wide system now anyway. But any unknown aircraft appearing in or close to Irish or UK airspace will be intercepted by the RAF not the Irish aircorp, unless it's a stray hotair ballon maybe.

nice1franko wrote:

Yeah, our country is such a joke. We don't have radars or anything.

another "us irish can't do anything right" knob :rolleyes:

So what exatly are they going to do with the radar when they see a Russian military jet encroaching within Irish airspace then? The only thing that they can so is speak to them and ask them nicely to leave.

bill_ashmount

robinph wrote:

The monitoring of your national airspace involves a bit more than just being able to see that there are planes up there, which is the extent of Irelands capacity. The commercial traffic may be monitored from Shannon, but I think that is actually just part of a Europe wide system now anyway. But any unknown aircraft appearing in or close to Irish or UK airspace will be intercepted by the RAF not the Irish aircorp, unless it's a stray hotair ballon maybe.

Indeed, i've never disagreed with that

Terry

Nice1franko wrote:

Yeah, our country is such a joke. We don't have radars or anything.

another "us irish can't do anything right" knob

Attack the post, not the poster.

dlofnep

Mother Russia is flexing it's might. *swoons*

bill_ashmount

dlofnep wrote:

Mother Russia is flexing it's might. *swoons*

hehe,

I wouldn't be too worried about Russia anyway, country is dying on it's feet, population is shrinking dramatically. It ain't the country it once was.

AlmightyCushion

robinph wrote:

So what exatly are they going to do with the radar when they see a Russian military jet encroaching within Irish airspace then? The only thing that they can so is speak to them and ask them nicely to leave.

Get out and throw stones at them.

bill_ashmount

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Get out and throw stones at them.

and wave our fists, "Ye shaggers of hell"

AlmightyCushion

bill_ashmount wrote:

and wave our fists, "Ye shaggers of hell"

I'm tellin' ye, they'll be scared shítless of us then.

nice1franko

I'd be up in arms myself if we were spending any more money on our military.

It makes no sense to, does it? Even if we spent every single euro of our tax on it we'd still be walked over by any of the (many) countries with populations greatly outnumber ours.

Besides, we're Europeans now - one for all and all for one!

AlmightyCushion

nice1franko wrote:

Besides, we're Europeans now - one for all and all for one!

Except when they come here to take our jobs.

stevenmu

Breaking News !!!

The Irish government has revealed plans to build an air defense network around the entire country. An estimated €2.6 billion euro has been budgeted for the plan. The initial phase will consist of one air defense radar and the costs have been broken down as follows

Air Defense Radar (make and model currently unknown): €10,000,000
Management Team: €40,000,000
PR Consultants: €25,000,000
Nationwide advertising scheme: €5,000,000
Management supervisory comittee: €55,000,000
Independant national air defense regulatory authority: €130,000,000
Air defense executive headquarters building: €250,000,000
Replacement Air Defense Radar (initial purchase turned out to be Sky Sattelite dish): €50,000,000
Computer system to handle payroll for management team, consultants, committees and executive body: €750,000,000
Warning lights to keep low flying aircraft away from radar: €300
Consultants to determine correct placement and position of lights: €49,999,700
Road to link executive building to radar (150 metres): €1,200,000,000

Two operators will be required to operate the air defense radar system. These have not been budgeted for at this time.

Raskolnikov

I remember some crackpot militarist type harping on about a possible Britsh air raid could wipe out our infrastructure within 48 hours.

It got me thinking. Why bother with expensive aircraft when they can just park a couple of tractors in the middle of the M50. The country would be crippled within minutes!

faceman

stevenmu wrote:

Breaking News !!!

where did you get that from?

assuming its for real, how the fcuk do you spend 25m on PR consultants??? For what?!

robinph

faceman wrote:

assuming its for real

I'd assume otherwise.

Tar.Aldarion

Rollyeyes.

stevenmu

robinph wrote:

I'd assume otherwise.

That would be the safer assumption

Than again, never underestimate the ability of the government to spend €25m on consultants

<_<
>_>

faceman

/crawls behind sofa in shame (with a hangover)

Cunny-Funt

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I think they always have. Nothing official and set in stone but a 'sure why not' sort of thing. Kinda funny, how many people give out about 'those damn Brits', yet they patrol our skies for us.

Which is pretty embarrassing on our part tbh.

We should be able to patrol our own skies with a few decent jets. Like what we do with our navy. Just because it wouldn't be able to defeat an invading army doesn't mean we shouldn't have anything at all.

robinph

Cunny-Funt wrote:

Which is pretty embarrassing on our part tbh.

We should be able to patrol our own skies with a few decent jets. Like what we do with our navy. Just because it wouldn't be able to defeat an invading army doesn't mean we shouldn't have anything at all.

There is a huge difference in the cost of buying and maintaining second hand Royal Navy boats than getting second hand jets from them. Keeping a boat afloat is a lot lower tech than keeping a plane in the air and people have been doing it for a lot longer. Also there is probably less of a difference between the lowest spec'ed modern military boat and the best for the purpose than there would be in terms of aircraft.