International Poker Open - Final Thread

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Good luck to Nicky - Sam and Ken, hope one of you's take it down.

UL Kev...

DEmeant0r

derek2222_ie wrote:

Ok thanx

any word on how the team event is actually looking

Cheers

Team Pokerheaven won the team event, although I don't know how the points went.

ocallagh

Anna/Stephen

Will you be posting final team points?

Rb

Graysen Odd Filet wrote:

LOL good to put a face to the name, yeah u had a good bit invested in that pot and wanted to get you across the line for a call. I was told table 81 by the organisers....ah well. Thought u played well also just got unlucky in a few spots, thought there was easy enough chips at that table seems as though any decent bet or raise was getting through, there was a hell of a lot of limping which i took advantage of.

Yeah definitely nice to put another face to a name.

Also, wouldn't take the hand shaking as a tell btw, unless you're wondering if I'm tired or hungover

derek2222_ie

DEmeant0r wrote:

Team Pokerheaven won the team event, although I don't know how the points went.

Cheers

Just found out our team finished second (lastminute.com) . We had 3 players in the top 70 which was a great result.

A nice brucie bonus

Tar.Aldarion

DEmeant0r wrote:

Team Pokerheaven won the team event, although I don't know how the points went.

I'd just like to say well done to the students/unknown/drop outs and NickyOD for taking this down even after team captain busted out first...ahem.

valor

hope sam wins it

NeoSlicerZ

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

I'd just like to say well done to the students/unknown/drop outs and NickyOD for taking this down even after team captain busted out first...ahem.

I completely agree, that wastrel of a team captain busted out with QQ vs TT in a over 105k pot at 200/400. I must agree there was some superb donkey/genius play being done by them. Now the only thing left is for NickyOD to go on and take the entire thing down..... and share it.

cardshark202

gogogo sam.

derek2222_ie

just got a call from JP to say sam busted out in 17th or 18th

wp sam

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UL Sam ---- wp tho....

C4Queen

19 David Chawke Ireland
18 Jorn Martinson Norway
17 Samantha Heyes Ireland
16 Ismael Arriibas Spain
15 Pribetich Sebastien France
14 Jani Rajamäki Sweden
13 David Gharai Switzerland

So down to 12 players, i had to go and EAT before i get very boring to have around,< lol. Buty now am back, will try to post some key hands...

hatedajacks

Go on Ken!

derek2222_ie

cheers anna

keep up the good work

C4Queen

Blinds 20 000/40 000 and one player gone..

the french player who had AA 8 times during the day,,, and the held up all the times.. amazxing! Maybe i just play them wrong....:D

LuckyLloyd

41st. €410. lol donkaments.

Two hands:

1)Blinds 6k / 12k. I have 370k. Folded to button who is a young Dublin lad and has 140kish in chips. He makes it 42k. Sb folds. I see 55 and make it 200k setting him in.

I have only been at the table for two and a half orbits during which I have folded everything bar one hand where I raised from early position and took the blinds.

Anyway, button thinks for 30 seconds and sticks the rest in. Flips Ac3c and looks surprised to be behind to my 55. He gets there on the river.

2)Blinds still 6k / 12k - but going up in 10mins. A table across the road has been broken and a couple of players sit down at the table. One of the new arrivals is a French dude with 450k+. He is dealt in but all his chips are still in a rack. Folds to him on the button and he makes it 35k without looking at his cards. I find AJo in the small blind and quickly shove for 275k.

BB is a Swedish player who has impressed me during the 40 mins I have been at this table. I have got back up to 275k after the above hand through a couple of blind steals in succession.

Anyway, the BB tanks and asks the French guy how much he has. French guy indicates that he covers. Then, as the BB is deliberating - THE FRENCH GUY ON THE BUTTON FOLDS HIS HAND OUT OF TURN CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY :eek:

Swedish guy now doesn't have extra complications and makes a good call with 1010; and wins the flip for a 590k pot against my AJ.

I note to the French guy that it was disgraceful etiquette to fold there and he just shrugs his shoulders and looks at me in a "**** you, I don't care" type of way.


Two days for that. Nice.

Then went to see the Kingdom. Good movie, recommended. Jamie Foxx is a g00t actor.

Hard luck to Sam - she clearly played a fantastic shortstack game and worked hard to grind her way through a huge field. Pity her AK couldn't beat A10 AIPF.

Rb

LuckyLloyd wrote:

41st. €410. lol donkaments.

Two hands:

1)Blinds 6k / 12k. I have 370k. Folded to button who is a young Dublin lad and has 140kish in chips. He makes it 42k. Sb folds. I see 55 and make it 200k setting him in.

I have only been at the table for two and a half orbits during which I have folded everything bar one hand where I raised from early position and took the blinds.

Anyway, button thinks for 30 seconds and sticks the rest in. Flips Ac3c and looks surprised to be behind to my 55. He gets there on the river.

2)Blinds still 6k / 12k - but going up in 10mins. A table across the road has been broken and a couple of players sit down at the table. One of the new arrivals is a French dude with 450k+. He is dealt in but all his chips are still in a rack. Folds to him on the button and he makes it 35k without looking at his cards. I find AJo in the small blind and quickly shove for 275k.

BB is a Swedish player who has impressed me during the 40 mins I have been at this table. I have got back up to 275k after the above hand through a couple of blind steals in succession.

Anyway, the BB tanks and asks the French guy how much he has. French guy indicates that he covers. Then, as the BB is deliberating - THE FRENCH GUY ON THE BUTTON FOLDS HIS HAND OUT OF TURN CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY :eek:

Swedish guy now doesn't have extra complications and makes a good call with 1010; and wins the flip for a 590k pot against my AJ.

I note to the French guy that it was disgraceful etiquette to fold there and he just shrugs his shoulders and looks at me in a "**** you, I don't care" type of way.


Two days for that. Nice.

Then went to see the Kingdom. Good movie, recommended. Jamie Foxx is a g00t actor.

Hard luck to Sam - she clearly played a fantastic shortstack game and worked hard to grind her way through a huge field. Pity her AK couldn't beat A10 AIPF.

Did you cry?

C4Queen

7 Irish left fighting it with one player from Netherland, one from german, two from UK.

THE Clamper is dealing and gives em all monsters.... :-)

See some poictures here: http://www.mermaidpoker.com/?page=2749

tacker

Wp Lloyd.Ihope you said more to the french fella than you say

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LuckyLloyd wrote:

41st. €410. lol donkaments.

Two hands:

1)Blinds 6k / 12k. I have 370k. Folded to button who is a young Dublin lad and has 140kish in chips. He makes it 42k. Sb folds. I see 55 and make it 200k setting him in.

I have only been at the table for two and a half orbits during which I have folded everything bar one hand where I raised from early position and took the blinds.

Anyway, button thinks for 30 seconds and sticks the rest in. Flips Ac3c and looks surprised to be behind to my 55. He gets there on the river.

2)Blinds still 6k / 12k - but going up in 10mins. A table across the road has been broken and a couple of players sit down at the table. One of the new arrivals is a French dude with 450k+. He is dealt in but all his chips are still in a rack. Folds to him on the button and he makes it 35k without looking at his cards. I find AJo in the small blind and quickly shove for 275k.

BB is a Swedish player who has impressed me during the 40 mins I have been at this table. I have got back up to 275k after the above hand through a couple of blind steals in succession.

Anyway, the BB tanks and asks the French guy how much he has. French guy indicates that he covers. Then, as the BB is deliberating - THE FRENCH GUY ON THE BUTTON FOLDS HIS HAND OUT OF TURN CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY :eek:

Swedish guy now doesn't have extra complications and makes a good call with 1010; and wins the flip for a 590k pot against my AJ.

I note to the French guy that it was disgraceful etiquette to fold there and he just shrugs his shoulders and looks at me in a "**** you, I don't care" type of way.


Two days for that. Nice.

Then went to see the Kingdom. Good movie, recommended. Jamie Foxx is a g00t actor.

Hard luck to Sam - she clearly played a fantastic shortstack game and worked hard to grind her way through a huge field. Pity her AK couldn't beat A10 AIPF.

hardluck lloyd, but well played - tough to get through a big field like that..

Jesus Wept

LuckyLloyd wrote:

2)Blinds still 6k / 12k - but going up in 10mins. A table across the road has been broken and a couple of players sit down at the table. One of the new arrivals is a French dude with 450k+. He is dealt in but all his chips are still in a rack. Folds to him on the button and he makes it 35k without looking at his cards. I find AJo in the small blind and quickly shove for 275k.

BB is a Swedish player who has impressed me during the 40 mins I have been at this table. I have got back up to 275k after the above hand through a couple of blind steals in succession.

Anyway, the BB tanks and asks the French guy how much he has. French guy indicates that he covers. Then, as the BB is deliberating - THE FRENCH GUY ON THE BUTTON FOLDS HIS HAND OUT OF TURN CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY :eek:

Swedish guy now doesn't have extra complications and makes a good call with 1010; and wins the flip for a 590k pot against my AJ.

I note to the French guy that it was disgraceful etiquette to fold there and he just shrugs his shoulders and looks at me in a "**** you, I don't care" type of way.

This does nothing improve Rigger - French relations.

Of course, it's not limited to French people , this type of sh1t happens all the time, people need to be taught not to do it with warnings&penalties.

I don't hold out much hope though considering it happens on WSOP TV final tables and no one says squat. (Dutch Boyd, wanker)

The Dealer should call the floor and get the guy warned, preferably a penalty, but too often people just prefer to be quiet than ruffle feathers, but he deserves it, fúcking disgraceful by him.

Luckylloyd wrote:

One of the new arrivals is a French dude with 450k+. He is dealt in but all his chips are still in a rack. Folds to him on the button and he makes it 35k without looking at his cards

What a thick, does he really think that people are going to put up with that?
Just look at your cards and then raise, what a tool.

cooker3

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Anyway, the BB tanks and asks the French guy how much he has. French guy indicates that he covers. Then, as the BB is deliberating - THE FRENCH GUY ON THE BUTTON FOLDS HIS HAND OUT OF TURN CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY :eek:

Ah, that is why you were not looking too happy and saying something to him, that's pretty bad it has to be said.

C4Queen

huge pot!!



Colin King`s AK against
Nickey O donnolls AQ spades..


Big slick held up!

semibluff

wp lloyd

C4Queen

Hand after on the other table we lost Kevin Smith!

Slash/ED

LuckyLloyd wrote:

41st. €410. lol donkaments.

Two hands:

1)Blinds 6k / 12k. I have 370k. Folded to button who is a young Dublin lad and has 140kish in chips. He makes it 42k. Sb folds. I see 55 and make it 200k setting him in.

I have only been at the table for two and a half orbits during which I have folded everything bar one hand where I raised from early position and took the blinds.

Anyway, button thinks for 30 seconds and sticks the rest in. Flips Ac3c and looks surprised to be behind to my 55. He gets there on the river.

What's the big complaint here? Folded round to the button, he raises his ace, and against what should be a huge range after what surely looks like a button steal he's being asked to invest 98,000 to win 188,000 (I'm tired, if my calculations are wrong forgive me) which as it happens it the right price as he's a 2/1 dog and your range should be huge here anyway including alot of hands he's ahead of if you think he's stealing, and it looks like he is...

hotspur

Damn it if I had known there were going to be Frenchies around I would have been over to cash game.

C4Queen

Payout:
1 32 000
.2 17 850
3 9075
4 8050
5 6875
6 5500
7 4125
8 2750
9 2050
10 1500
11-13 1170
14-16 1030
17-20 900
21-30 700
31-40 550
41-60 410
61-74 340
75-90 275
91-110 205

The Al Lad

wats the names of the players still in ???

PLEASE & THANK YOU

hatedajacks

Slash/ED wrote:

What's the big complaint here? Folded round to the button, he raises his ace, and against what should be a huge range after what surely looks like a button steal he's being asked to invest 98,000 to win 188,000 (I'm tired, if my calculations are wrong forgive me) which as it happens it the right price as he's a 2/1 dog and your range should be huge here anyway including alot of hands he's ahead of if you think he's stealing, and it looks like he is...

Dont think Lloyd is complaining so much about the call more like how quick he called and that he felt his A3 was going to be ahead

Slash/ED

hatedajacks wrote:

Dont think Lloyd is complaining so much about the call more like how quick he called and that he felt his A3 was going to be ahead

I watched the hand. His exact reaction was to berate the caller for the call (Not his assuming he was ahead) and called the call 'horrible' if memory serves. A retarded reaction to say the least.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

rb_ie wrote:

Yeah definitely nice to put another face to a name.

Also, wouldn't take the hand shaking as a tell btw, unless you're wondering if I'm tired or hungover

U should incorporate it into your game made me laydown some decent hands:) , you must have been on the razz the night before

ditpoker

i watched the lloyd exit hand, frenchie was well out of order and looked like the player with TT was gonna fold until frenchie mucked out of turn and on purpose. he knew the guy in front had a decision to make and mucked as if to say "its ok, you call him, dont worry about me"... i'd love to see a penalty given in that instance.

out of interest, having dealt many a tournament and played in many, i'm still unsure as to how, if i was dealer, i should initiate penalty proceedings against such an action. sometimes it happens and players fold by mistake, in this instance the guy knew what he was doing and should have a penalty, should the dealer call the floor, should the dealer give a penalty? what should happen!?

wp to sam and lloyd. think nicky od is still in so wp to him too but not sure of his result yet!

C4Queen

Players left, there seating and chipcount.. rock `n Roll SOON, stay tuned:

David Pook Netherland 1 1 270 000
Eddie Oreilly Ireland 2 1 150 000
Daniell Ruud UK 3 1 790 000
Martin webber Germany 4 710 000
thomas Conaty Ireland 5 1 400 000
Steven Richards UK 6 665 000
Colin King Ireland 7 2 550 000
Michael Horon Ireland 8 545 000
Ken Philpott Ireland 9 600 000

hatedajacks

Slash/ED wrote:

I watched the hand. His exact reaction was to berate the caller for the call (Not his assuming he was ahead) and called the call 'horrible' if memory serves. A retarded reaction to say the least.

Well you were there so wont argue with you. Its easy to lose our cool now and again and Lloyd like myself can get a bit pumped up at times but I have to say I was at his table for about 7 hrs yesterday and he was a gentleman to all around and I look forward to share a table with him soon.
Kev

LuckyLloyd

Slash/ED wrote:

I watched the hand. His exact reaction was to berate the caller for the call (Not his assuming he was ahead) and called the call 'horrible' if memory serves. A retarded reaction to say the least.

The dude's reaction when he saw my 55 indicated to me that his call had more to do with the fact that he had A SUITED ACE than correct mathamatical calculations.

And after the board was dealt he smiled apologetically and shrugged his shoulders at me, to which I replied "that was a horrendous call IMO - but well done". And that was it, nothing more said.

Obviously I shouldn't said anything. My bad. I assume he's a mate of yours, yeah?

Btw, I think he played the hand badly FWIW. Why raise to 42k? And the call was laying him slightly less than 2 : 1. And because his open raise was as large as it was I know I have less FE here than usual. And, as such, when I shove I will be adjusting my range here so that he is NEVER ahead when he calls. You will not see me turn over J10 or KQ here. He is basically always drawing to a 3 or an Ace depending on whether I have a bigger ace or a pair.

Whatever, in the final analysis I want him to call - and you need to win those type of collisions. Wasn't to be for me today.

LuckyLloyd

hatedajacks wrote:

Well you were there so wont argue with you. Its easy to lose our cool now and again and Lloyd like myself can get a bit pumped up at times but I have to say I was at his table for about 7 hrs yesterday and he was a gentleman to all around and I look forward to share a table with him soon.
Kev

Thanks for the kind words Kev. I can also honestly say that I thought you played and handled yourself admirably. Hard luck with your exit hand today.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

LuckyLloyd wrote:

The dude's reaction when he saw my 55 indicated to me that his call had more to do with the fact that he had A SUITED ACE than correct mathamatical calculations.

And after the board was dealt he smiled apologetically and shrugged his shoulders at me, to which I replied "that was a horrendous call IMO - but well done". And that was it, nothing more said.

Obviously I shouldn't said anything. My bad. I assume he's a mate of yours, yeah?

Btw, I think he played the hand badly FWIW. Why raise to 42k? And the call was laying him slightly less than 2 : 1. And because his open raise was as large as it was I know I have less FE here than usual. And, as such, when I shove I will be adjusting my range here so that he is NEVER ahead when he calls. You will not see me turn over J10 or KQ here. He is basically always drawing to a 3 or an Ace depending on whether I have a bigger ace or a pair.

Whatever, in the final analysis I want him to call - and you need to win those type of collisions. Wasn't to be for me today;

Ul Llyod, thems the races one needs to win, you must have known when you pushed he was calling after commiting so much of his stack? so were u happy to race here knowing that your small pair is a coin flip.

Slash/ED

"And because his open raise was as large as it was I know I have less FE here than usual. And, as such, when I shove I will be adjusting my range here so that he is NEVER ahead when he calls"

Is that not a contradiction since you shoved with a hand that is usually at most 50/50 and could be absolutley crushed by alot of hands...? You're behind to JTs for christ sake (Marginally, obviously)

He is a mate, I doubt he cared about the verbals, I'm just trying to figure out why you think he played it so bad. I also don't see why you'd shove here with 5s but NEVER with king-queens, for example. Eitherway, as you said, he'll usually be a 2/1 dog. He got 2/1. I think you're shoving range is wider than you're saying here, too, or at least he probably assumed it was given his raising range is so absolutly huge, so I think he's also even ahead here sometimes. Easy call for me. Would you lay it down against a player who seems to be competent enough to have a wide wide range here getting 2/1 and with less than 10bbs if you fold...?

C4Queen

Ken philpott just gone AK against KK...

Some hope on the flop with an J and a Q but no A or 10 to save Ken and the German dominator Martin Web collects some chip!

hatedajacks

Ken is out. His AK ran into KK,UL mate,well played

LuckyLloyd

Graysen Odd Filet wrote:

Ul Llyod, thems the races one needs to win, you must have known when you pushed he was calling after commiting so much of his stack? so were u happy to race here knowing that your small pair is a coin flip.

Thanks Fran. Yes, I felt he would call with a lot of his range - and was happy to race against a big ace, etc. That said, I also assumed that I had SOME FE. The slightly bigger raise indicated to me that he just wanted to take it down. As such, I really did believe that he would fold some of the more marginal hands in his range.

I mean, the situation dictated that he would have a very wide raising range. And the bet size and his demeanour indicated that he was on the weaker end of the spectrum. So I figured I do actually get a fold some of the time here - but are ahead a lot if the money goes in.

mdwexford

Ive often commented/berated an opponents play if i lose an important hand and im sure 95% of people on here also have at some stage.
The 42k raise was bad with his stack size, i shove or fold as you have way more fold equity.

Out of interest do you call if he shoves PF Lloyd??

LuckyLloyd

Slash/ED wrote:

"And because his open raise was as large as it was I know I have less FE here than usual. And, as such, when I shove I will be adjusting my range here so that he is NEVER ahead when he calls"

Is that not a contradiction since you shoved with a hand that is usually at most 50/50 and could be absolutley crushed by alot of hands...? You're behind to JTs for christ sake (Marginally, obviously)

He is a mate, I doubt he cared about the verbals, I'm just trying to figure out why you think he played it so bad. I also don't see why you'd shove here with 5s but NEVER with king-queens, for example. Eitherway, as you said, he'll usually be a 2/1 dog. He got 2/1. I think you're shoving range is wider than you're saying here, too, or at least he probably assumed it was given his raising range is so absolutly huge, so I think he's also even ahead here sometimes. Easy call for me. Would you lay it down against a player who seems to be competent enough to have a wide wide range here getting 2/1 and with less than 10bbs if you fold...?

You make some good points here. Though I much prefer 55 here for myself when I shove than J10s.

Thing is, he raised a size that gives himself slightly less than 2 : 1 if I set him in. That I would never do. I mean, if he makes it 30k here, I fold the bottom 65% of starting hands just the same. And, when he makes this range he IS reducing the range of hands I make a move on him with - making it worse for him to raise - call. So when I find hands that have him in as bad a shape as I was I stick it in anyway.

Does this even make any sense? I'm tired at this stage. And the more I think about this tournament the more it annoys me.

I concede that you are probably correct in a lot of what you were saying - and I am probably wrong. It was his reaction to what I showed that life - tilted me more than anything else.

LuckyLloyd

mdwexford wrote:

Out of interest do you call if he shoves PF Lloyd??

Hmm. I don't think I can call.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Thanks Fran. Yes, I felt he would call with a lot of his range - and was happy to race against a big ace, etc. That said, I also assumed that I had SOME FE. The slightly bigger raise indicated to me that he just wanted to take it down. As such, I really did believe that he would fold some of the more marginal hands in his range.

I mean, the situation dictated that he would have a very wide raising range. And the bet size and his demeanour indicated that he was on the weaker end of the spectrum. So I figured I do actually get a fold some of the time here - but are ahead a lot if the money goes in.

Yes it is situation dependant alright, i think the only two correct ways to play this is fold or push as a call would be horrible. I know your not happy with your cash but look at this as experience in playing in such a big field, i found playing in large events such as this and the IO helps your game greatly in particular improving your patience and blind stealing and raising abilities

mdwexford

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Hmm. I don't think I can call.

No i dont think you can either.

Well done on going so deep.

And i hope that French guy gets horrible variance for the rest of his poker career....:mad:

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote:

You make some good points here. Though I much prefer 55 here for myself when I shove than J10s.

Thing is, he raised a size that gives himself slightly less than 2 : 1 if I set him in. That I would never do. I mean, if he makes it 30k here, I fold the bottom 65% of starting hands just the same. And, when he makes this range he IS reducing the range of hands I make a move on him with - making it worse for him to raise - call. So when I find hands that have him in as bad a shape as I was I stick it in anyway.

Does this even make any sense? I'm tired at this stage. And the more I think about this tournament the more it annoys me.

I concede that you are probably correct in a lot of what you were saying - and I am probably wrong. It was his reaction to what I showed that life - tilted me more than anything else.

Bleh. This post is actually horrendous. He has 12 BBs. Just shove ffs.

cuterob

MD..i was at your table..seat 10..i bluffed my chips to you.. i still cant get over the donkey-calling-stations on the other half of our table

DeadParrot

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Hmm. I don't think I can call.

hehehe
Unlike me

Out in 50th
Last hand before the break and I've got roughly 14bb's
UTG I look at pocket 5s and raise to 36k....
Lad in mid position pushes.
I go into the tank, decide I'm racing and called.
JJ was good.

I started the day with 131k and worked up to just over 200k, played aggressively because I had to...lots of big stacks to the right of me, who weren't too shy about pumping my blinds