Free energy

retrospect

http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/11/can-saltwater-be-burned-as-fuel/

is this just steorn all over again ?

Binomate

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rejkin

it looks like its really only in its early stages so it could work but there will probably be loads of problems with actually getting that to work constantly in a home cos u would need an immense amount of the salt to power the houses electricity and sure its gonna have to power the machine which hits it with radiation aswell

Crucifix

No.
I'm not saying it'll work out, but their claims aren't as ludicrious as Steorn's.

Nehpets

What happened to the Steorn demo?

Studio Fish

Nehpets wrote:

What happened to the Steorn demo?

Don't mention the war!

dlofnep

The demo failed.. Anybody read about your man Hutchinson?

McSandwich

rejkin wrote:

it looks like its really only in its early stages so it could work but there will probably be loads of problems with actually getting that to work constantly in a home cos u would need an immense amount of the salt to power the houses electricity and sure its gonna have to power the machine which hits it with radiation aswell

It's a bit of a jump but what if something otherwise useless such as nuclear waste could be used as a radiation source? We'd be sorted for the next 100,000 years!

rejkin

yeah that nuclear waste could probably be used but the nuclear waste would emmit so much radiation that it would be too hard and too costly to control the outflow of radiation,but...if it could be used it would not just be 10000 years but 100's of thousands of years that would be very handy

Genghiz Cohen

you still need to power the radio wave generator that weakens the bonds between the hydrogen and everything else, that isn't free. The cost of producing the waves could overshoot the collectable energy returned from the flame.

MooseJam

cool, I always thought water would be a good energy source - once you seperate the H from the O you have limitless fuel, but then it takes the same amount of energy to seperate as you get back from burning it, seems these guys have worked it out though

Black Swan

Another perpetual motion-like claim? I'll show you perpetual motion on the dance floor. Ha!

Jambo

They omit to say what the power consumption of the RF generator is ! hence there may be more power required to run the generator vesus the power output of hydrodgen burning

McSandwich

Looking at it again, the colour looks more like a sodium and not a hydrogen flame. Maybe it's the salt and not the water being broken down.

Also, sodium ignites on contact with water - a reaction which liberates and burns H2. See: http://www2.uni-siegen.de/~pci/versuche/english/v44-1-1.html

MooseJam

Jambo wrote:

They omit to say what the power consumption of the RF generator is ! hence there may be more power required to run the generator vesus the power output of hydrodgen burning

but that might not matter because it's high power output, you could fly airplanes on hydrogen, you could run the generator off low power like solar or wind

Voodu Child

:rolleyes: if the fella was getting more energy out than he was putting in, you wouldnt be reading about it on AH...i wouldnt go running out buying shares in the ocean just yet...:rolleyes: