If Stan goes...

dbnavan · 13-09-2007 10:58am #1

Who would you realisticly want to replace him........

I honestly cant think of someone that would a) Want the job

is good enough for the job c) that the fans would want

Dave O'Leary(maybe?)

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 11:13am

Paul Jewell could be approached.

Hitzfeld

People can forget about their O'Neills or their Allardyces.

George Graham? At least we'd never concede.

Big Ron, but then again, Stephen Reid might never get a game.:D

Colin Warnock would be great.

Royston?

Stephen Kenny.

Pat Fenlon.

Roddy Collins.

Pat Dolan.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 11:16am

Aldridge

Souness

Jewell

Dalglish

DesF

O'Leary?!!? (am i really that desperate for Stan to get the bullet? i aint sure)

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 11:16am

But...but...Souness hates Irish people.

And there's a reason Aldo has been not managing recectly, and has been doing Celebrity Singsong, or whatever.

Above O'Leary? WOOHOO!

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 11:21am

yea but he wanted the Irish job, he'd take no **** from the FAI (probably a main reason he didnt get it in the first place), he has some experience, seemed fairly talented as a manager, would be more comfortable with the media etc etc, is scouse (:))and would be far far far far far far far better at the job than Stan.

isn't Souness married to an irish woman?

gosplan · 13-09-2007 11:23am

I'm going to go our on a limb here and say that I'd like to see a foreigner get the job.

There's something about the Irish mentality that gets to us when we're away from home, a goal up or favourites.

A foreigner with a reasonable amount of experience, some history of success and some English.

I don't know their names but there's a lot of international managers that have gone to continents like Asia and Africa and overachieved with mediocre teams. Any one of those please.

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 11:25am

millersangel wrote:

yea but he wanted the Irish job, he'd take no **** from the FAI (probably a main reason he didnt get it in the first place), he has some experience, seemed fairly talented as a manager, would be more comfortable with the media etc etc, is scouse (:))and would be far far far far far far far better at the job than Stan.

isn't Souness married to an irish woman?

I was being fecetious about his Anti-Irishness, of course he isn't.

Talented manager. Newcastle?

My Granny would do a better job than Stan.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 11:26am

i was talking about Aldridge, but yea i think Souness is a decent enough manager, definately good enough to manage us

Attractive Nun · 13-09-2007 11:28am

DesF wrote:

Big Ron, but then again, Stephen Reid might never get a game.:D

Lol!

I like that Paul Jewell idea. Doubt he would take it really, but he's probably the best I've heard in this thread. Wouldn't be overly happy if Souness got the job.

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 11:33am

Beenhakker?

Is he in a job?

LuckyLloyd · 13-09-2007 11:34am

I would be delighted if Souness got the job. Ditto Jewell. Ditto O' Leary.

They are people capable of doing the job that are available at the moment. So the old chestnut that we can't get rid of Stan because there is nothing else there seems like rubbish to me.

Additionally, it is preferable to remove Staunton immediately. As it would be better for a new manager to assess players in full internationals as opposed to meaningless friendlies before September 2008 (which is has now become the next target

). Accepting that the remaining three group games are largely irrelevant now - they are still waaaaaayyyy better in terms of acclimatisation and preperation for a new manager than friendly matches.

Edit to Add: ALDRIGE SHOULD NOT BE A ****ING OPTION. OUT OF WORK FOR 6 YEARS. END OF.

5starpool · 13-09-2007 11:34am

gosplan wrote:

I'm going to go our on a limb here and say that I'd like to see a foreigner get the job.

There's something about the Irish mentality that gets to us when we're away from home, a goal up or favourites.

A foreigner with a reasonable amount of experience, some history of success and some English.

I don't know their names but there's a lot of international managers that have gone to continents like Asia and Africa and overachieved with mediocre teams. Any one of those please.

Bora Mulitonovic (sp?) or Otto Raehaegal (sp again?).

Yuck.

LuckyLloyd · 13-09-2007 11:36am

5starpool wrote:

Bora Mulitonovic (sp?) or Otto Raehaegal (sp again?).

Good Lord No.

ninebeanrows · 13-09-2007 11:52am

Paul Jewell please

Good chap, good manager

We could all throw a euro into the pot and get a Gus Hiddink

Paul Jewell would be the best realistic choice.

Wouldnt like Souness in charge, don't like the man.

dbnavan · 13-09-2007 11:54am

Could never see souness managing Ireland, he has been around along time and never won anything credible bar the Scottish League of which there is only 2 teams that can realisticly win, he completed made a balls of liverpool and was the begin of the end for them,

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 11:57am

Choice between Aldridge and Staunton and i'd pick Aldridge everytime.
So if no one else wants the job, give it to Aldo.

Hardly reckon he's forgotten how to pick a team/motivate/make sus etc in 6 years

ntlbell · 13-09-2007 12:03pm

anyone for a slice of Denis Wise?

/gets coat

rubberduckey · 13-09-2007 12:07pm

How would people feel if Kevin Keegan was interested in the job??

dbnavan · 13-09-2007 12:10pm

rubberduckey wrote:

How would people feel if Kevin Keegan was interested in the job??

I can think of a lot worse suggestions.

Het-Field · 13-09-2007 12:10pm

Glen Hoddle knew how to put a shape on a side. I wouldnt mind him

Jaques Santini won it all with France, he would be a decent option

David O Leary has bags of Premiership exxperience, but Villa didnt work out well

Roy Keane is just a little bit inexperienced, but face it, he is far more experienced than Staunton

dbnavan · 13-09-2007 12:13pm

Het-Field wrote:

Roy Keane is just a little bit inexperienced, but face it, he is far more experienced than Staunton

Best man for the job by far, but he will never work for FAI, and they will never employ him works both ways.

marcphisto · 13-09-2007 12:13pm

DesF wrote:

Beenhakker?

Is he in a job?

I think he manages Poland now.

To be honest I think anybody would do better than Stan. When you see what the scots have managed it gets a bit depressing.

chopperbyrne · 13-09-2007 12:47pm

What's John Gregory up to or Peter Reid?

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-09-2007 12:50pm

so the sum of peoples ambition is unemployed english managers? :eek:

Aldo? 6 years where no-one would touch him and people suggest him as a credible manager? pathetic.

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-09-2007 12:50pm

so the sum of peoples ambition is unemployed english managers? :eek:

Aldo? 6 years where no-one would touch him and people suggest him as a credible manager? pathetic.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 12:54pm

so MrOhNoYouDidn't . . . . who would you recommend?

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 12:54pm

so MrOhNoYouDidn't . . . . who would you recommend?

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 12:55pm

pretty sure i only posted that once?

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-09-2007 1:11pm

millersangel wrote:

pretty sure i only posted that once?

Hiddink or Bechenhauer,

If they are unavailable Pat Scully or Stephen Kenny. Possibly John Robertson.

Not unemployable failures like Peter Reid

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 1:15pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote:

Pat Scully

Pat Scully?

Who'd take over at Rovers then?

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 1:20pm

to be honest, your first two would never wanna take the job in the first place.

as for the Eircom League managers, tbh i'd prefer someone with some experience in a really top league, dealing with top players. in that documentary about Kerr he pretty admitted he had no idea how to handle premiership players. cant tailor the players around the manager so the manager will have to be tailored around the players. souness/o'leary/aldridge/keegan/jewell/dalglish would all be better suited for the job than an EL league manager imo.

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 1:25pm

First this

millersangel wrote:

as for the Eircom League managers, tbh i'd prefer someone with some experience in a really top league, dealing with top players.

Then this

millersangel wrote:

aldridge would...be better suited for the job than an EL league manager imo.

Er, what?

WTF has Aldridge done in a 'really top league'?

On in any league in the past SIX YEARS for that matter.

Apart from sing songs on the telly.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 1:28pm

ok, shouldnt have included Aldridge, but he did well in England and in Cups against big teams, so he would have the players respect more so than EL managers imo.

plus he sings a mean version of Ring Of Fire as you pointed out

Pepe LeFrits · 13-09-2007 1:29pm

Me. I wouldn't mind the increase in salary.

George Graham!

ciaran76 · 13-09-2007 1:39pm

Paddy Mulligan on Newstalk now talking about this and the game.

~Rebel~ · 13-09-2007 1:46pm

dbnavan wrote:

Could never see souness managing Ireland, he has been around along time and never won anything credible bar the Scottish League of which there is only 2 teams that can realisticly win, he completed made a balls of liverpool and was the begin of the end for them,

Dont forget his years in Turkey with Fenerbache where he's still looked on as a complete legend.

Id have him on my list anyway.
Paul Jewell would be my number 1 though. Have a decent chance of getting him to since he wants a break from the game, would probably be happy to take the much smaller job of national management for 2 or 4 years rather then straight back into club management. Whenever the last thing i heard from him was he was still saying he wanted more time off and was ruling himself out of any of the going premiership jobs.

Also Paco Ayesteran! Just been let go by liverpool as the assistant but wants to remain in england since he's settled - snap him up! Would be great behind the scenes for getting things up to scratch as well as he's one of the worlds best fitness coachs.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 2:05pm

ha ha ha Pako!

13-09-2007 2:16pm

Best candidate out there in terms of is currently unemployed....is Capello. But thatd be stretchin it big time.

Dalglish, Jewell, George Graham.

If we were stuck O'Leary....but u cant buy players in intn'l footy so thats him screwed.

TwoShedsJackson · 13-09-2007 2:20pm

Troussier.

Zebra3 · 13-09-2007 3:08pm

I'm bemused by those slating the FAI and all they can do themselves is put forward the name of failed Premiership managers. :rolleyes:

My suggestion is the most talent player ever to appear for an FAI XI. Didn't have much success as a club manager, but has huge experience and even won two Serie A titles during his playing days.

ghost26ie · 13-09-2007 3:17pm

Zebra3 wrote:

I'm bemused by those slating the FAI and all they can do themselves is put forward the name of failed Premiership managers. :rolleyes:

My suggestion is the most talent player ever to appear for an FAI XI. Didn't have much success as a club manager, but has huge experience and even won two Serie A titles during his playing days.

failed premiership manager is a whole lot better than a reserve team coach for a coca cola division one team, with no previous experience in top flight management and a whole lot better than any eircom league manager you would want in.

Zebra3 · 13-09-2007 3:24pm

ghost26ie wrote:

failed premiership manager is a whole lot better than a reserve team coach for a coca cola division one team, with no previous experience in top flight management and a whole lot better than any eircom league manager you would want in.

And what has that got to do with my post?

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-09-2007 3:28pm

ghost26ie wrote:

failed premiership manager is a wholee lot better than any eircom league manager you would want in.

OLE OLE OLE OLE

How is that leprechaun suit?

Its that kind of anglo-centric attitude has us in this mess.

3greenrizla's · 13-09-2007 3:33pm

looking at the odds on Paddypower, there are not much to choose from.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=115&ev_type_id=8810

would we be able to get Gerard Houllier?

ghost26ie · 13-09-2007 3:57pm

Zebra3 wrote:

And what has that got to do with my post?

i was saying those people that others have suggested could do a good job with the national side, those who you consider are just failed premiership managers, would do a whole lot of a better job than Stan.

BrianCalgary · 13-09-2007 4:13pm

Can the whole FAI and bring in Roy Keane.

Roy has passion that I think is sorely needed in the team.

Why accept third as many did going in to the qualifiers. Shoot for the top. the talent is there. The consistency isn't.

Mr Alan · 13-09-2007 4:16pm

Roy Keanes managerial quality is only now being tested. and at the moment is falling seriously short.

next solution please.

_blank_ · 13-09-2007 4:17pm

BrianCalgary wrote:

Can the whole FAI and bring in Roy Keane.
.

lol

What makes you think if the FAI went to Roy to 'bring him in' that he'd agree to it.

What are they to do? Kidnap him?

Why would he want to leave Sunderland after just a year in charge. Keane wants to prove himself in the PL, nothing else, at this stage of his career.

Time Magazine · 13-09-2007 4:23pm

DesF wrote:

What makes you think if the FAI went to Roy to 'bring him in' that he'd agree to it.

I think he meant "Scrap the whole FAI...".

Eamon Dunphy is the only man for the job. At least he'd say the team were shite in the post-match interview

.

LuckyLloyd · 13-09-2007 4:24pm

Everyone who is getting on their high horse with regards to English managers needs to stfu. There is NO manager currently in the Eircom league who fits this position. I believe the job is potentially 5 years or so too soon for Kenny - who I think will develop into one of the best Irish managers ever as his career progresses.

But right now, names like Brady, Moran, Aldrige, Dolan, whoever the fcuk Eircom leaguer are non - runners. We are looking to take a step up from Staunton, not a step back.

Staunton was clearly unfit for the job because he had no experience managing at this level. To put it in a simpler fashion; he had no previous experience directing and motivating players at this level while also manipulating his options and devising a gameplan to cope with opposition at this level. It follows that EVERY SINGLE EIRCOM LEAGUE MANAGER IS EQUALLY UNFIT TO DO THE JOB AS THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE EXPOSURE TO TOP LEVEL FOOTBALL EITHER. Aldridge did some good stuff with Tranmere in cup competitions 6 - 8 years ago. He has never been given another chance. Either he interviews really bad, or he gets bad references - but the message is that something is seriously amiss with his canditure for any top or mid level football manageriel position.

This is reality. And if you don't like it I don't ****ing care. The most logical employee pool for the FAI to dip their hooks into is the English Premiership pool. Therefore, those are the types of names that will be bandied about.

dubmick · 13-09-2007 4:36pm

what is going on with those Paddy Power odds?

Chris Hughton 9-1 Not a chance
Don Givens 14-1 Is this a joke?
Kevin Moran 33-1

Houllier is at 50-1

If Stan goes...

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